^ reminds of some years ago when KODA (the Danish musicians' rights agency) wanted music bloggers to pay tariffs when they used embedded music from YouTube, SoundCloud, or other places in their blog posts.
2014-09-07 25008, 2014
Freso
But I can't find any English language articles about that.
Well, at least there is lots of room to make it more than the ~5 people currently there.
2014-09-07 25001, 2014
CallerNo6
5 people, but at least one recording
2014-09-07 25019, 2014
CallerNo6
so think what 150 bored soldiers might do
2014-09-07 25023, 2014
CatQuest
wait what so what if oyu're one of the 150 military people? that doesntm ake sense
2014-09-07 25025, 2014
CatQuest
make even
2014-09-07 25003, 2014
CallerNo6
well, I imagine he's joking, while also pointing out that making a pulldown list that tries to include everything might be overkill
2014-09-07 25038, 2014
CatQuest
uhm..
2014-09-07 25047, 2014
CatQuest
have you seen our pulldown lists latly?
2014-09-07 25013, 2014
CallerNo6
uh oh. should I?
2014-09-07 25029, 2014
chirlu`
We even have an editor who claims to be in the USMOI. ;-)
2014-09-07 25016, 2014
wardhan
hi all. the following is given on cd back : "all songs composed, arranged & produced". producer option is availabel for recording only but not to work. should i create relationship for all the recordings ?
2014-09-07 25017, 2014
CallerNo6
that's awesome. 149 bored soldiers to go.
2014-09-07 25007, 2014
wardhan
arranger option is available for both recording & work. which one should i use ?
2014-09-07 25003, 2014
CallerNo6
wardhan: for arranger, generally the recording. the exception would be if an arrangement is considered a new (derivative) work.
2014-09-07 25007, 2014
reoafk
Yes, producer on recordings
2014-09-07 25018, 2014
reoafk
And yes, for arranger, for non-classical music, recording by default
2014-09-07 25019, 2014
wardhan
ok, both arranger & producer should be updated on recordings.
2014-09-07 25040, 2014
wardhan
ok, one more qustion: how should i update "executive music producer" ?
2014-09-07 25015, 2014
CallerNo6
"executive" is an attribute of the "producer" relationship.
2014-09-07 25041, 2014
wardhan
ok, got it. i have seen all attributes for producer. please excuse for asking stupid question.
2014-09-07 25047, 2014
CallerNo6
there are no stupid questions, only stupid music videos.
2014-09-07 25052, 2014
CatQuest
LOL
2014-09-07 25012, 2014
CatQuest
\o/ CallerNo6
2014-09-07 25010, 2014
CallerNo6
Is "executive producer" more an artist-release relationship, rather than artist-recording?
2014-09-07 25001, 2014
CallerNo6
I see it's available for both, but it sounds to me like a release-leve role.
2014-09-07 25026, 2014
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2014-09-07 25053, 2014
wardhan
callerno6: are u saying about arranger should be updated at release level rather than recording ? arranger is also available relase level.
2014-09-07 25057, 2014
wardhan
i am trying to update data for a movie soundtrack.
2014-09-07 25046, 2014
wardhan
oops... i mixed up things.. are u saying about arranger should be " are u saying about producer" :)
2014-09-07 25033, 2014
CallerNo6
wardhan: no, not arranger
2014-09-07 25001, 2014
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2014-09-07 25002, 2014
CallerNo6
but I'm not sure about executive producer
2014-09-07 25018, 2014
CallerNo6
hopefully somebody else will comment
2014-09-07 25030, 2014
Freso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9c_KttvQPU
2014-09-07 25049, 2014
wardhan
callerno6: ok. we will wait for some more time about clarification about exec producer ;)
2014-09-07 25039, 2014
drsaunde
link executive producer credits to releases and not recordings or works
2014-09-07 25011, 2014
Freso is trying hard to resist the temptation to go to the video poster's site and download his recordings to add them to MB... :|
2014-09-07 25048, 2014
CatQuest
u about u about u
2014-09-07 25052, 2014
CatQuest
what?
2014-09-07 25017, 2014
CatQuest
Freso: \o/
2014-09-07 25055, 2014
Freso
wat?
2014-09-07 25035, 2014
wardhan
drsaunde: so, i should be linking at release level for exec producer. should i do same for producer also ?
2014-09-07 25059, 2014
Freso
wardhan: Regular producer so go per-recording.
2014-09-07 25001, 2014
CatQuest
how did you know I was looking for sounds to put on the sd card in my bedroom player in the night
2014-09-07 25003, 2014
CatQuest
:D
2014-09-07 25003, 2014
Freso
*should go
2014-09-07 25026, 2014
Freso
CatQuest: Did I never tell you that I'm psychic?
2014-09-07 25030, 2014
CatQuest
:O
2014-09-07 25000, 2014
Freso
Man. Clairvoyance is a bitch. I can never figure out whether I have done something yet or if it's something that I'm going to do in the future. :(
2014-09-07 25021, 2014
wardhan
freso: ok, now it is making some sense to me :)
2014-09-07 25011, 2014
CallerNo6
Freso can't read his own mind?
2014-09-07 25024, 2014
drsaunde
wardhan: most credits will go to the recordings, the exceptions are the ones that relate to the entire package like: mastering, executive producer, A&R, photography, design, artwork
2014-09-07 25049, 2014
drsaunde
liner notes
2014-09-07 25006, 2014
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2014-09-07 25012, 2014
wardhan
drsaunde: thank you. you have saved me a lot of time trying to find out which goes where & why :)
2014-09-07 25055, 2014
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2014-09-07 25051, 2014
drsaunde
getting lots of 502s and 504s here
2014-09-07 25058, 2014
ruaok joined the channel
2014-09-07 25020, 2014
CallerNo6 is still waiting for the plot twist in the crickets vid
2014-09-07 25024, 2014
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2014-09-07 25047, 2014
CallerNo6
maybe it's one of those not-twists, like the apocalypse comes but the ten gallon container of crickets just keeps chirping.
area bot has been broken for last 2-3 months after last schema change
2014-09-07 25047, 2014
chirlu`
area_bot is down, so doesn’t run at all.
2014-09-07 25029, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
well fuck
2014-09-07 25048, 2014
drsaunde
i have a list of 100s i'm waiting on
2014-09-07 25050, 2014
JesseW
argh
2014-09-07 25001, 2014
JesseW
is there a ticket?
2014-09-07 25005, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
Sounds like we need to appoint more area editors
2014-09-07 25053, 2014
drsaunde
i'm pretty sure reosarevok is not almost permanently afk here because he doesn't want to add any for me
2014-09-07 25017, 2014
drsaunde
*not=now
2014-09-07 25013, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
That or he's bogged down
2014-09-07 25026, 2014
JesseW thinks that is more likely
2014-09-07 25047, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko is bogged down herself
2014-09-07 25013, 2014
Freso
HibiscusKazeneko: More area editors won't get area_bot up and running sooner...
2014-09-07 25023, 2014
CallerNo6 doesn't go afk. he becomes caller#503
2014-09-07 25033, 2014
Freso
In fact, anyone can help get that done.
2014-09-07 25041, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
It will diminish the wait time somewhat
2014-09-07 25052, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
(especially for aread area_bot doesn't see)
2014-09-07 25010, 2014
CatQuest
CallerNo6: that would be more appropriate if cockroaches?
2014-09-07 25011, 2014
CatQuest
:D
2014-09-07 25037, 2014
CallerNo6
bruthas from anutha mutha
2014-09-07 25045, 2014
CallerNo6
okay, maybe not
2014-09-07 25024, 2014
JesseW
Freso: where is the source code for area_bot?
2014-09-07 25043, 2014
JesseW
according to http://musicbrainz.org/user/area_bot, the 3-hour task isn't running not for a technical reason, but because: "not currently running because the current implementation has encouraged a small number of people to enter bad data into Wikidata in order to get an area added to MusicBrainz."
2014-09-07 25048, 2014
CatQuest literally lol
2014-09-07 25030, 2014
CatQuest
JesseW: I was worried about that. that's too bad
2014-09-07 25038, 2014
CatQuest
everyoby: don't be that guy and do that
2014-09-07 25041, 2014
CatQuest
ersj
2014-09-07 25045, 2014
CatQuest
everybody*
2014-09-07 25007, 2014
CallerNo6
woah. people were gaming the area system?
2014-09-07 25020, 2014
JesseW
apparently...
2014-09-07 25031, 2014
CatQuest shakes head inhouse style
2014-09-07 25019, 2014
CatQuest
anyone doing that should be getting a nope fro mwikidata imediatly imho
2014-09-07 25048, 2014
JesseW
I'm trying to look through the history of area_bot's edits, and see if I can find the problematic ones...
2014-09-07 25024, 2014
CatQuest hopes it wasn't accidentally him somehow :/
2014-09-07 25038, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko wonders the same thing
2014-09-07 25053, 2014
CatQuest
come on, give me some credit :/
2014-09-07 25055, 2014
CatQuest
:P
2014-09-07 25002, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I was worried it was me, not you
2014-09-07 25011, 2014
CatQuest
I know, hench the ":P"
2014-09-07 25016, 2014
CatQuest
but he same thing is. literally
2014-09-07 25023, 2014
drsaunde
502s and 504 getting even worse for me now (over 80% of the time) .. guess i have to give up and do something else
2014-09-07 25026, 2014
derwin
(what is the deal with those, btw? I continue to sorta not get how they can be this persistent.. :/)
2014-09-07 25004, 2014
portik
same with me. but i'm in editing mood... i don't know what to do
2014-09-07 25011, 2014
JesseW
derwin: afaik, it's lack of money for hardware...
2014-09-07 25019, 2014
derwin
hrm, on the one hand I understand that, on the the other hand, there are often other approaches to optimization
2014-09-07 25025, 2014
derwin
and availability
2014-09-07 25030, 2014
JesseW
heh
2014-09-07 25045, 2014
JesseW
I don't know the details, certainly.
2014-09-07 25026, 2014
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2014-09-07 25020, 2014
jesus2099
i guess it’s more or less helpless on weekend because maybe no one is here working and able to reboot… maybe you all already know… but today, I couldn’t really brpwse MB - 502 gateway something frenzy-
2014-09-07 25001, 2014
CatQuest
and the order is siginifxant
2014-09-07 25004, 2014
chungy joined the channel
2014-09-07 25035, 2014
CatQuest
[20:08] <JesseW> derwin: afaik, it's lack of money for hardware...
2014-09-07 25037, 2014
CatQuest
[20:12] <derwin> hrm, on the one hand I understand that, on the the
2014-09-07 25042, 2014
CatQuest
darr. wll those wherent off
2014-09-07 25010, 2014
CatQuest
i belove mb is doing pretty well financially
2014-09-07 25022, 2014
CatQuest
its usually weekedn since there are devs arent there
2014-09-07 25056, 2014
CatQuest
also there is this
2014-09-07 25000, 2014
CatQuest
[19:16] * ruaok grumbles in the direction of the servers
2014-09-07 25018, 2014
CatQuest
but an hour ago so it seems ruaok is aware of the issue (and grumbeling about it)
2014-09-07 25026, 2014
ruaok
the db server had a pile of stuck queries that I cleared out. seems better now.
