jesus2099: Sometimes they are, but I was speaking of this specific release.
2014-10-14 28734, 2014
jesus2099
ruaok: any news of the bot which added some bad and/or duplicate contents ? now when i linger on MB i can see its mark…
2014-10-14 28742, 2014
jesus2099
hawke1: MY SISTER ?
2014-10-14 28745, 2014
jesus2099
you have scans ?
2014-10-14 28751, 2014
jesus2099
of the lyrics credits ?
2014-10-14 28715, 2014
jesus2099
if they’re that way in JASRAC (together with many others) i have little doubt it was not on releaseS
2014-10-14 28732, 2014
hawke1
jesus2099: This was before hibiscuskazeneko linked to the VGMDB for the single.
2014-10-14 28736, 2014
ruaok
I never got mail from you, jesus2099. :(
2014-10-14 28701, 2014
jesus2099
i used the send mail feature on your user page
2014-10-14 28714, 2014
hawke1
jesus2099: I still think that in this specific case it is such a minor variation that they should be merged anyway
2014-10-14 28721, 2014
jesus2099
can you [off] me an address or a PM ? i will forward…
2014-10-14 28741, 2014
jesus2099
minor … ?
2014-10-14 28742, 2014
ruaok
done
2014-10-14 28722, 2014
hawke1
jesus2099: Yes, a tiny tiny difference. Like “Alan” vs. “Al” only even smaller than that since it’s pronounced the same.
2014-10-14 28743, 2014
jesus2099
there is a huge difference in my opinion
2014-10-14 28748, 2014
jesus2099
it’s a name change
2014-10-14 28759, 2014
jesus2099
it means more than that
2014-10-14 28728, 2014
hawke1
jesus2099: or like (to take an example from the style page) Katie Tunstall vs K.T. Tunstall
2014-10-14 28739, 2014
jesus2099
ruaok: damn either i didn’t send it, or it was filtered in my spam…… :/
2014-10-14 28753, 2014
ruaok
my spam didn't see anything. I just checked.
2014-10-14 28758, 2014
hawke1
jesus2099: what does it mean to you? I’ll be the first to admit that I am not intimately familiar with the history of these artists. But there is little mention on the wikipedia page about it, I would think that if it were significant they would have mentioned.
2014-10-14 28700, 2014
jesus2099
accofrding to yahoo mail i did not send the message at all…… :/ maybe i forgot to click send or something. i’ll write another one but not today, grrr
2014-10-14 28705, 2014
jesus2099
ruaok: ↗
2014-10-14 28716, 2014
ruaok
k :)
2014-10-14 28741, 2014
jesus2099
any name change is significant to me when it’s japanese artist… i have never seen anything as simplistic as Alan→Al yet
2014-10-14 28751, 2014
jesus2099
ok i’m not japanese
2014-10-14 28721, 2014
jesus2099
but i know you would as well merge all pen names ;p
2014-10-14 28754, 2014
jesus2099
i did the merge mistake once some time ago
2014-10-14 28706, 2014
jesus2099
i regret because it’s so hard to do the work again of splitting
2014-10-14 28714, 2014
jesus2099
now that we have AC and that i’ve grown up
2014-10-14 28757, 2014
hawke1
I think AC lets us do a lot more merging than we could before. But of course I have long had the opinion that “AC captures credit, AR captures fact”. That’s not an argument we’re going to settle here/now, of course.
2014-10-14 28724, 2014
jesus2099
i regret a post‐AC merge of course
2014-10-14 28732, 2014
jesus2099
crap ! a pre‐AC merge i meant
2014-10-14 28701, 2014
jesus2099
i should have been more patient (like you should now) and wait a little bit more until we got AC and then only merge keeping AC
2014-10-14 28715, 2014
jesus2099
you should be little bit more patient and merge only when we do get the AC on AR stuff
2014-10-14 28727, 2014
jesus2099
or you’ll regret big tears like me today
2014-10-14 28738, 2014
jesus2099
(or you won’t, maybe)
2014-10-14 28717, 2014
hawke1
jesus2099: :-) — I just don’t think MBS-333 can work. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong someday.
2014-10-14 28748, 2014
jesus2099
maybe you would not believe in AC before either
2014-10-14 28756, 2014
jesus2099
it’ the same 100%
2014-10-14 28710, 2014
jesus2099
check out discogs*
2014-10-14 28724, 2014
jesus2099
it will make you believe ;)
2014-10-14 28729, 2014
jesus2099
have faith
2014-10-14 28744, 2014
jesus2099
btw i have to switch off that computer, good night MB ;)
2014-10-14 28745, 2014
CallerNo6 still thinks that part of the solution is to treat an mb-artist as a modular piece of an IRL-artist.
2014-10-14 28714, 2014
CallerNo6
(which is how I understand the current mb ontology)
2014-10-14 28747, 2014
CallerNo6
er, that is "one or more mb-artists are used to represent an IRL-artist"
2014-10-14 28722, 2014
jesus2099
héhé
2014-10-14 28756, 2014
hawke1
CallerNo6: In other words, add a level above current MB-artist?
2014-10-14 28706, 2014
CallerNo6
hawke1: well, definitely another level conceptually. I don't know how implementation should work.
2014-10-14 28744, 2014
hawke1
CallerNo6: I feel like that wouldn’t really help much…basically would turn our MB-artist into an artist-credit entity.
2014-10-14 28723, 2014
CallerNo6
That's what I'm saying. IIUC, it already is that.
2014-10-14 28726, 2014
hawke1
which is ok but a lot of work.
2014-10-14 28701, 2014
hawke1
More than adding release-specific credits to each AR, I think.
2014-10-14 28705, 2014
CallerNo6
But it's the system we already have :-)
2014-10-14 28757, 2014
hawke1
CallerNo6: From a data-editing perspective, it’s a matter of splitting a million artists vs. changing a million artist credits. Dunno which ends up being easier.
2014-10-14 28723, 2014
CallerNo6
splitting?
2014-10-14 28739, 2014
CallerNo6
I'm not saying we should have a new artist for every minor name variation.
2014-10-14 28701, 2014
CallerNo6
(although if it can be done, somebody will do it I guess)
2014-10-14 28734, 2014
CallerNo6
I just think that once you compile a list of all the things you wish you could do with ACs, they start to look a lot like mb-artists. dates, relationships specific to that name, etc
2014-10-14 28752, 2014
derwin
oops
2014-10-14 28726, 2014
hawke1
CallerNo6: I would think to just treat it similar to how we edit track-artist ACs now, but for every AR: a release-specific name for the related artist.
2014-10-14 28704, 2014
mb-chat-logger
New post: blog: Server update, 2014-10-13 (a day late) <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2014/10/14/server-update-2014-10-13-a-day-late/>
2014-10-14 28711, 2014
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2014-10-14 28738, 2014
n1md4
hi. i've this album http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tchaikovsky-Ballet-Suites… it's not in mb. i'm unsure which release group to add it to, and then the artist. if it's a cover the the artist performing with an artist credit toward the original artist?
2014-10-14 28711, 2014
derwin
this is a preetty serious question
2014-10-14 28716, 2014
derwin
as classical editing is complex.
2014-10-14 28720, 2014
derwin
someone in here can answer...
2014-10-14 28723, 2014
n1md4
another (eventual) string to the bow :) but thanks
