Wow, so this is high-school boys who transform into girls?
2014-11-04 30820, 2014
kepstin-laptop
note the use of the masculine 'ore' in that title; main character of the show is a guy who transforms into a magical girl with a really impressive 'twintails' hairstyle
2014-11-04 30830, 2014
kepstin-laptop
only the one guy, the other characters are girls
2014-11-04 30840, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
Basically a moe version of the Sailor Starlights?
2014-11-04 30802, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
or not
2014-11-04 30827, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the basic idea is to make a parody of magical girl shows incorporating elements of the 'sentai' or whatever genre (ala power rangers, etc)
2014-11-04 30829, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the series macguffin is of course "the love people have for the twintails hairstyle" - that's what the bad guys are trying to collect and remove from the world, and what powers the super-suits and special attacks.
2014-11-04 30849, 2014
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reosarevok
wtf :D
2014-11-04 30839, 2014
simukis_
reosarevok: I humbly sugest to ignore anything related to that.
2014-11-04 30858, 2014
reosarevok
haha
2014-11-04 30802, 2014
simukis_ hates when records annotated with “instrumentai” contain echo of vocals.
2014-11-04 30820, 2014
simukis_
this is karaoke, publishers, and you should know better.
2014-11-04 30851, 2014
reosarevok
I thought they used the two words mainly as synonyms
2014-11-04 30803, 2014
reosarevok
(not that I think that's a smart thing to do :p)
2014-11-04 30809, 2014
kepstin-laptop
simukis_: yeah, karaoke or カラオケ is sometimes indicated, but instrumental is more popular these days
2014-11-04 30820, 2014
kepstin-laptop
which gets really annoying when actual instrumental tracks are marked the same way
2014-11-04 30843, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
Usually if a release contains both it'll mark the tracks as to which is which
2014-11-04 30854, 2014
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2014-11-04 30811, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
(e.g. in the case of duet singles, it'll have two partial karaoke tracks and one full karaoke track)
2014-11-04 30834, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I recall one single - probably a track used as a bleach op, i think? where there were a bunch of tracks that each had one of the band members removed from the mix (i.e. instruments removed and vocals removed)
I think they just decided to use the C for stylistic reasons; I think they use it everywhere the band name is printed romanized
2014-11-04 30810, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I never got a chance to watch the dub before the streams were pulled. Did they re-record any of the music?
2014-11-04 30846, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I don't think so
2014-11-04 30815, 2014
kepstin-laptop
re-recording music is way too expensive for any of the studios given current market conditions
2014-11-04 30831, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
(I asked because in an ANN review of the Full Moon o Sagashite dub, they mentioned none of the songs were recorded in English due to licensing issues)
2014-11-04 30842, 2014
simukis_
especially knowing how much music there was in K-On too…
2014-11-04 30850, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
They did it for Haruhi
2014-11-04 30805, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I remember remarking about how bad Wendee Lee's singing voice was
2014-11-04 30806, 2014
kepstin-laptop
haruhi was in the middle of a massive boom
2014-11-04 30814, 2014
kepstin-laptop
so i guess they figured they could do it
2014-11-04 30834, 2014
kepstin-laptop notes that he has the full set of special edition amercian releases of haruhi :)
2014-11-04 30843, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko thinks she has it too
2014-11-04 30855, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the time of eve kickstarter had a hell of a time getting the rights to include the Kalafina ending song for the movie on their soundtrack cd, apparently :/
2014-11-04 30821, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
yep, Japanese record labels tend to be snooty
2014-11-04 30801, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
(if it was them giving the Kickstarter folks a hard time and not the artist's talent agency, who was likely much more demanding)
2014-11-04 30803, 2014
kepstin-laptop
kalafina's on SME, and Sony in paricular, yeah...
2014-11-04 30800, 2014
kepstin-laptop
but as a result of whatever they had to do to get that, it's the only time I've *ever* seen a printed ISRC on a release.
2014-11-04 30804, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I remember 4Kids had to pull their subtitled Yu-Gi-Oh! DVDs off shelves because Johnny & Associates refused to license the audio for one of the voice actors
2014-11-04 30823, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
kepstin-laptop: Printed ISRCs are common on Taiwanese releases.
2014-11-04 30858, 2014
kepstin-laptop
they only printed the ISRC for the one track, of course.
2014-11-04 30817, 2014
kepstin-laptop
(all the isrcs were embedded into the cd encoding like normal, of course)
HibiscusKazeneko: Oh, shush. I just realized that it was an add not an edit — vote changed.
2014-11-04 30821, 2014
hawke
I’m not plotting to destroy your work. There’s no conspiracy.
2014-11-04 30822, 2014
hawke
:-p
2014-11-04 30836, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
It looked like you were willing to destroy it.
2014-11-04 30808, 2014
hawke
Nope, just didn’t look at the edit type.
2014-11-04 30805, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: have you noticed your tendency to use language that is more extreme and full of agency than what is actually happening? "threatening to destroy" is actually "harmless error"?
2014-11-04 30819, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I had no idea it was an error at the time.
2014-11-04 30830, 2014
derwin
sure, but you presumed it was a "threat" to "destroy" ?
2014-11-04 30843, 2014
derwin
those words are both rather strong
2014-11-04 30844, 2014
hawke
HibiscusKazeneko: So you jumped to the conclusion that I was maliciously voting?
2014-11-04 30859, 2014
derwin
and in fact what he said was "If not, I would say this should be normalized"
2014-11-04 30806, 2014
derwin
which seems very non-threatening?
2014-11-04 30812, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
That's a veiled threat.
2014-11-04 30828, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: perhaps you have a worldview which views things which are not in fact vieled threats as threats?
2014-11-04 30829, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
He was telling me "Cough up some info or bye-bye."
2014-11-04 30801, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
It's essentially holding me hostage.
2014-11-04 30802, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: this meta is exactly what I am trying to engage with. you appear to over-emphasize bad faith, dominance, threats and other types of potential harm.
2014-11-04 30813, 2014
hawke
HibiscusKazeneko: No — I had misinterpreted the comment thread to be about the edit, instead of about the release.
2014-11-04 30820, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: no, it's not holding "you" hostage, and your viewing it as holding "you" hostage is part of what I'm talking about.
2014-11-04 30840, 2014
derwin
you seem to generally personalize and impart lots of personalized agency into ambiguous online communication
2014-11-04 30851, 2014
derwin
and in general you seem to assume malice or negativity more than it actually appears
2014-11-04 30800, 2014
derwin
it must be unpleasant for you, so I'm hoping to provide a mirror.
2014-11-04 30804, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
It brings back memories of when I was a Newgrounder, where the mods and admins were known to be abusive.
2014-11-04 30820, 2014
derwin
speaking only for myself, this behavior is literally the only thing I find disagreeable about you; 100% of your other behavior marks you as a very good member of the community
2014-11-04 30825, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
They would routinely ban people for difference of opinion.
2014-11-04 30845, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: I understand, and you've referred to this "PTSD" type defensive view
2014-11-04 30855, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: but newgrounds are pretty hostile compared to music meta data nerds :)
2014-11-04 30814, 2014
derwin
so perhaps the role of my mirror is merely to suggest that you're safer than you think, and it's ok to let your guard down a little.
2014-11-04 30824, 2014
hawke
newgrounds…is that a forum for discussing coffee? ;-)
2014-11-04 30828, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I wish
2014-11-04 30859, 2014
kepstin-laptop
i only recall it as a place having some flash animations, I don't think I ever even had a login on it.
2014-11-04 30831, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I technically still do, but I stopped using it in December 2010.
2014-11-04 30853, 2014
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_Dave_
Derwin, might I point out that you are doing exactly the same thing to Hibiscus? :)
2014-11-04 30846, 2014
_Dave_
so it's double mirrors, which are very visually stimulating
2014-11-04 30825, 2014
derwin
(doing exactly the same thing?)
2014-11-04 30804, 2014
_Dave_
Yes :)
2014-11-04 30814, 2014
_Dave_
You assume Hibiscus's negativity is negative
2014-11-04 30847, 2014
_Dave_
wonderfully recursive, I'm honored to see it
2014-11-04 30845, 2014
_Dave_
It's probably better said that you assume Hibiscus's behavior is negative
2014-11-04 30837, 2014
derwin
I am characterizing her language as negative, yes, and am conjecturing that feeling "threatened" must be unpleasant for her
2014-11-04 30858, 2014
derwin
I also presume it is slightly unpleasant for hawke to be accused of threatening, if he is not doing such a thing.
2014-11-04 30814, 2014
_Dave_
maybe her language isn't negative as much as exaggerated?
2014-11-04 30841, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
I've had notes added to my edits in the past that looked disturbingly like threats.
2014-11-04 30848, 2014
_Dave_
your "zero points" for negativity are far from each other on an absolute scale? :D
Those "if you don't cough up info, say bye-bye to this edit" comments sound like threats to me.
2014-11-04 30852, 2014
_Dave_
Without looking at that, I'd point out that Derwin's point might be better understood as "What we see is mainly what we look for."
2014-11-04 30841, 2014
_Dave_
to take the charge of "negativity" out of it :)
2014-11-04 30853, 2014
derwin
HibiscusKazeneko: your paraphrases reliably add agency and negative tone to the statements made.
2014-11-04 30804, 2014
derwin
he did not say anything like "if you don't cough up info, say bye-bye to this edit"
2014-11-04 30823, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
"also, the source you quoted doesn't mention these 2 numbers, so unless you disclose the source of information for these numbers, i'll have to vote it down."
and "have to vote it down" is... him saying he will vote.. which is his right as a user?
2014-11-04 30817, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
That's still a threat
2014-11-04 30822, 2014
derwin
how is "have to vote it down" "say bye-bye to this edit"?
2014-11-04 30836, 2014
derwin
you seem to misunderstand how voting is likely to work in a community?
2014-11-04 30845, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
The effect it would have had is my work would have been destroyed
2014-11-04 30854, 2014
hawke
derwin: well, to be fair a single no-vote is often enough to kill an edit.
2014-11-04 30805, 2014
derwin
you have your opinion, he has his. if you convince him, you get to change his. if you don't convince him, he's not threatning you by maintaining his view, and he's not destroying or killing anything?
2014-11-04 30824, 2014
HibiscusKazeneko
S/he was asking for info I could not provide at the time.
2014-11-04 30827, 2014
_Dave_
derwin: unless Hibiscus is attached to the outcome that strongly :)
2014-11-04 30853, 2014
hawke
HibiscusKazeneko: It generally seems fair to ask for evidence to support edits though, does it not?
