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KRS-Cuan: Release Group

'n' is, I think, the correct abbreviation for "and" because and has 3 letters.

It's a bit ludicrous to correct this to "proper English" when the title also contains "Niggaz".

And "-az" is not the proper way to form English plurals.

heh

Neither is 'n' the proper way to write and

But we do lowercase "da" for "the", so I guess there's precedent to improve "wrong English" too :p

hawke: ping

reosarevok: pong

So

I'm looking at event series now

I know I want to add that but not what to call it :D

"Run"?

hmm…season?

"run" probably isn't bad.

xps2: I don't think we need a secondary type for something as specific as that. Part of those releases could also fall under the soundtrack type.

Although image songs are technically not part of a series' soundtrack.

currently it's "n" and I am pretty sure "n'" or "'n" or "'n'" are more correct than that :/

"production"?

KRS-Cuan: It is not important whether I want to add secondary type.

reosarevok: yeah, that might work.

KRS-Cuan: this is important. kepstin-laptop: The purpose makes sense to me; it would allow solo works under the artists own name to be displayed separately from their character/role work.

hrm... brken discogs url : http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/718a8062-c...

I think a "production" and a "run" are slightly different

you could revive a production for a second run

derwin: seems to be http://www.discogs.com/master/18938 now?

I came to the same conclusion. :-) Probably merged.

reosarevok: why did they change their URLS :/

Krystof: hmm. So would you use just "run"? "Show run"? "performance run"?

derwin: *shrug* they seem to like breaking stuff

I think I would use just "run"

derwin/reosarevok: They don’t have a redirection for merges. – Anyway, https://beta.musicbrainz.org/url/c7c97d07-57cf-... now is associated with the release groups.

*three

Krystof: wouldn’t that be a different production?

(a revival, I mean)

“The current Broadway revival of Kander and Ebb's 1966 musical CABARET is not entirely faithful to the original production.” says one review on Amazon.

dunno

if you tour, is that part of the same production? What if you have a break? I don't know

Hi everyone

hi!

Does anyone know how to query freebase using an MBID? I would really appreciate it!

hmm, I looked this up for brewster a while back, it should be in the chat logs

lets see if I can find it

Krystof: Yeah, I dunno. At least one reference site refers to 'touring productions' and that a 'production' refers to all the various physical stuff involved with making the show. (presumably that changes somewhat as stuff breaks and needs to be changed/repaired/upgraded, especially for a touring production).

Yeah, think I'll go with "run"

Seems closer to the definition I'm supposed to be working with :)

msordo: http://tinyurl.com/px7hf3n

Thanks!

msordo: that example looks up a recording, I expect other things would work similarly.

oh, excellent! Thank you very much @kepstin-laptop :-)

msordo: the "ns0:id" field is the freebase ID, which you can use to correlate to other things

reosarevok: So does that mean the series will cover several productions (i.e. revivals will be part of the same series as an original run? ;-) )

I will, thanks

reosarevok: Probably doesn’t help that I don’t know exactly what your series is meant to cover. ;-)

That seems like a different run in the same way a "revival" of a ten year old tour is not really the same tour

reosarevok: right — but is your series meant to cover 'all the various productions of $show' or 'every performance of the 19xx production/revival of $show'?

Well, it was originally requested for AKB48, not musicals or stuff like that, so I don't think that was taken into account

But it seems absurd to have a revival as part of the same series

(although it does seem reasonable to have a relationship to connect the two)

Both seem like something it would be useful to keep track of.

Isn’t a series of events almost the same as a multi-part event?

http://www.chriscaggiano.com/the-most-revived-m... ;-)

“I've listed the significant Gilbert & Sullivan comic operas separately here, only because they kind of threw off the curve, and it didn't seem fair.”

chirlu`: not really? I mean, you're not expected to attend more than one "part" of the event, it seems like basically a series

I mean, you could also say a work series and, say, a song cycle work are very similar, and you would be right, but :)

Hi Guys!

hi

I'm wanting to setup my own mb slave server for an app i'm building. It is a commercial application but not at this stage its just a personal project. Do you think there will be any issues with licensing mb at this stage?

Does it have ads and/or charge people money at this stage? If neither are true, then probably not, but it doesn't hurt if you mail to info [at musicbrainz.org] with more info

great. I will do that. Thanks for you help.

I'm literally at the very early stages of my application. I'm am planning on setting up a slave mb server this weekend. There are lots of sources online how to do this. Do you guys have any recommedations?

*recommendation?

The app won't have any ad's just yet and as for charging its going to be free!

That sounds non-commercial, in which case it's probably fine. But yeah, just write to that mail explaining it a bit and the people in charge of that will let you know :)

Great thanks.

@ALL if any of you have setup a mb slave server at all. give me shout. I'm about to set one up. So if your happy to help I'd love to hear from you. my email: m [at mikejam.es]

Cheers!

Basically just after general pointers and sources of information to set one up

If you just want the database, mbslave is probably best.

If you need the server, too, I’d just follow the INSTALL.md.

If instead you use some text from the web, make sure it is not totally outdated (often given away by mentioning carton).

cheers!

So what would your recommendation be?

I'm setting up a mb db so I can query as much as I want by my webservice

was thinking to setup the mb data as a webservice behind my public api

is the mb slave db structured enough to just query? This would be better as my api would be able to initiate the searches directly on the db without a hop to another webservice

mjam: the slave db you get matches the structure of the production db exactly; you can query it directly if you prefer.

but our data structure is quite complex :)

I thought so, I'd like to also get responses back with the score ratings like you get from the webservice

As this is quite useful when deciding on which track to match too

mjam: for that, you have to be running the lucene-based search server, which is an entirely separate piece of software :)

Searches (including score calculation) are handled by a separate server, the search server.

Webserive sounds like the best solution without having to dive into the mb server too much. I have enough complexity within my services as it is

*webservice

The search server would that the web service?

the webservice is implemented in the perl musicbrainz server code, except for the search parts - those are implemented in a separate java search server.

I see, so when I make a query to http://www.musicbrainz.org/ws/2/recording/?quer...

this is requiring which services?

Mjam is still here. I'm on my phone

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HeyCitizen: http://picard.musicbrainz.org/