#musicbrainz

What should I do about a release like this? https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/45b4870b-b...

There are 2 sets of track titles: one English/Portuguese and one Japanese

The release's back cover uses the Latin titles http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m...

While the artist's website uses the Japanese titles http://www.corcovado.cc/pages/discos/disco.html

Follow the release then, and maybe add the other stuff as a pseudo.

Websites are secondary sources, as is the obi.

hibiscuskazeneko: absolutly. if he starts. point the edit to here and we'll tell him so

hi

CatQuest: It's already happened. https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/30023261

He gave me the classic "you snooze, you lose" rationalization

didn't we sort that one out?

Not quite https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/30024299

I was forced to add them together, and he accused me of disobeying

erh

"stepping behind one's back" is the same as "disobeying"

a) you are not forced

b) if someone accuses you of disobeying" you snort and say "are you my mother?"

and he's ludicrous to insiunuate that he decides this outside the comunity

kyeopta did that and it didn't turn out well https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/26671560

and you're strange to assum that any rule one person makes is something you have to follow. you must follow comunity consesus

and as a part of the comunity you can activly contribute ot consensus

CatQuest: No I can't. I was already overruled.

I remember that I posted that here but sadly noone votes on it (I didn't as I am not knowledgable about this)

of course you can

you ant be overruled

I was here. https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/25466147

try again. complain. if the comunity disagree with you say "oh well" if the comunity agrees" say "jippi"

They shot me down.

who is they?

it's ok to be disagreed with

Nikki was in on it

It's not OK if she's involved

noone cars if you got a vote voted no. they care if you use it as a mark to argue that "you can't get done anything an am overruled" then people aren't ging to care when you complain. choose your battles

people are not evil

ok it's somewhat true that nikki has some say in this

but

MBChatLogger: off

is not logging

is logging

yes we are and I frequently do

reosarevok is definitely not in that group

only rob is a "BDFL"

reo is styledude idk nikki

also I am not friends with rob anymore. but that is a personal disagreement with him and me and nothing todo with musicrainz stuff

so for that I will defend him in his right. I agree that things are not pefect since these are humans and humas are requently wrong

Mineo: Did you just close a beets PR?

but you are *causing* bad blood with acusations

I am MUSICBRAINZ. I am a comunit member. acusing of overuling and such? you're accusing me? wat have i ever doen agaisnt you

You personally haven't done much.

and we've said about other sites are completely NOT usicbrainz

if anything

fHAH

careful w/ double meaning

you don't know shit what i've done rachel. please

nothing that affects this situation, that I'm aware of

hk could mean you have not done much overruling

derwin: stay out of this once darling

not that you have not contributed

I frequently disagree with nikki, reo, and rob.

just trying to help w/ parsing

heh

to de-escalate

I also frequnetly disagree with hawke. and warp

but we are friends. and there are NO clics

"nothing that affects this situation" = you haven't done much IN THIS CASE, not that you don't contribute to mb generally :)

(and now stepping back :D)

it's ok to disagree with hawke. he's stil la human being with contributions

hell even yindesu has usability on site. he's just too.. idk, anal? ocd? ifk

I don't contribute much any more sadly

I agree that generally other sites are not mb, you are unlkely to be ganged up on as much on mb etc.

He's usually helpful, but he does get uptight about certain things.

lol "stepping around my back", hk even linked to the edit on the other edit's comments

what

I took that to mean he had declared himself the final authority

yes. terminology like that is wrong of yindesu to use and it's possibly not-quite-coc-y

yes

and when anyone does that hibiscuskazeneko, you laugh at them. not take them seriously

he even accused Hawke of abuse of power in one forum thread

lemme dig it up

hmm yes.. hat was weird. but I don't know it

no need it's not importnat now

pot to kettle?

the point is

please *try* to not accuse anyone on musicbrainz with such hard words

those were his words, not mine

i suuspect that those things are the reasons things sou r for you on sites.. you see these paterns and then they become reality. and then maybe you come across ome asshole and it just becomes confirmation for you

I mean in general

like "over ruled" and "I was shit down" and I "was accused of disobeying"

erh i ws shot not shit

>_<

sorry

it's a common American expression

it's harsh

it means "stopped in the act" or something along those lines

also remember a lot of the user base is not american or even english native

I am from norway f.ex

so you should. if possible always error on the side of subtle

also it makes you look agressive and attacking even if you're right. if youdown play things that happen or you, people will thingk you are levelheaded and have sympathy for you

if you're negative even when negative things happen, people wont want to listen

if you are "cheerful" even when things get you down people will want t sympathise with you

also if you must be negative, be negative in a funny or charismatic way, then people will sympathise with you too ;)

like "ahh aain yindesu has disagree with me, can I get another persons input on this edit please? :)" instead of "yindeus is at it again, I was shot down there isn't naything i cna do"

flamingspinach: lol yes

"yindeus" sounds more like an ultimate authority than "yindesu" :P

hahaha

I know it's hard hat. especially if you feel the whole world is after you

i know that

hahaha

sounds like a Roman emperor

ja øss :D

uff

sounds like 陰デウス

SHADOW GOD

scary...

uff da

sounds like Vashta Nerada

Avada Kadavra?

basically tiny creatures that pretend to be shadows and eat people

hmm I was playing word-assosiation. though I should have remember that. it seemed similar too

heh

"who turned out thel ights?!"

Well, "deus" means god, so "yindeus"...

and "yin" means "shadow" (as in yin-yang, shadow and sunlight)

hence SHADOW GOD

yea

aha

wait, people don't 100% agree with me?

:D

Well shit, now I know why shit doesn't get done instantly. ;-)

Of course we agree with you!

We just don't agree with the interpretation of what you mean.

*agree on

hahaha

if I have a recording's mbid is it possible to retrieve the track number on the release it was on?