if i understood the current style correctly I am to delete the ensemble and conductor from the title and add them as relationships in the release group?
2015-01-28 02820, 2015
reosarevok
Add them to the artist
2015-01-28 02834, 2015
reosarevok
"Mark Adderley; Ensemble Ernst, Thomas Rimul"
2015-01-28 02835, 2015
reosarevok
Or whatever
2015-01-28 02843, 2015
reosarevok
(both release and release group artist)
2015-01-28 02839, 2015
Tecfan
ok!
2015-01-28 02834, 2015
Tecfan
is there no default join phrase style?
2015-01-28 02851, 2015
hawke joined the channel
2015-01-28 02831, 2015
reosarevok
Yes, what I used
2015-01-28 02843, 2015
reosarevok
Comma between each composer/performer, ; between both blocks
nikki personally would prefer to just use what the title has, but comma is what http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Titles/Part_numbers says so :/
2015-01-28 02805, 2015
nikki
if you go up a couple of posts, they said they would vote but can't figure out how to log into the wiki
2015-01-28 02835, 2015
Leo_Verto
mhm, maybe I'm just too purist, but I kinda dislike that practice, second-party voting doesn't guarantee that everyone who expresses to vote on the forums is actually counted
2015-01-28 02808, 2015
Leo_Verto
not that it'd matter in this vote anyways :P
2015-01-28 02828, 2015
CallerNo6
It feels like that guideline was probably meant for cases where the separator is implied already
(like by a newline, or a supertitle with a list of parts)
2015-01-28 02856, 2015
Leo_Verto
If there's one thing I have learned about situations like this is that quiet changes tend to lead to passive aggressiveness while communication can solve it quite easily :D
2015-01-28 02809, 2015
reosarevok
Leo_Verto: given the vote is non-binding and I basically get to choose myself, it doesn't matter much :p (although obviously I'm not going to push my view if everyone else is against it - thankfully it seems it's the most popular one :) )
2015-01-28 02823, 2015
Leo_Verto
I don't care that much if you at least keep "feat." :P
2015-01-28 02835, 2015
CatQuest
Leo_Verto: cccould be the guesscase did it for them
2015-01-28 02800, 2015
reosarevok
Well, "feat." is unrelated to this, so yeah :)
2015-01-28 02810, 2015
reosarevok
(it's mandated by a separate guideline)
2015-01-28 02808, 2015
CatQuest still thinks it's weird that I can use "with" or "&" or "med" but "featuring" is forbidden
2015-01-28 02847, 2015
CatQuest
you guys *do* kow that a lot of track names with "feat." and a lot of artist credits deried from said tracknames *also* were originally "&" or "and"
2015-01-28 02807, 2015
CatQuest
before things like "some guy & some chick" was made to e trackname (feat. some chick")
2015-01-28 02815, 2015
CatQuest
even if original ahd &
2015-01-28 02817, 2015
CatQuest
had*
2015-01-28 02825, 2015
CallerNo6
it does seem like MB Style is slowly chipping away at normalization/standardization
2015-01-28 02825, 2015
Leo_Verto
I don'd do that
2015-01-28 02831, 2015
reosarevok
Well, they can allways be fixed :)
2015-01-28 02811, 2015
CatQuest
picard should be able to make any joinphrase inot anything you'd want
2015-01-28 02835, 2015
CatQuest
reosarevok: abolutely
2015-01-28 02847, 2015
CatQuest
but my question still is. why can I use "and" but not "featuring"
2015-01-28 02830, 2015
Leo_Verto
heh
2015-01-28 02836, 2015
Leo_Verto
because "featuring" is longer
2015-01-28 02813, 2015
CatQuest
erh
2015-01-28 02814, 2015
reosarevok
Well, they're different things. A closer question would be I guess "why can I use 'and' or '&' but 'featuring' must be 'feat.'"
2015-01-28 02816, 2015
CatQuest
that's...
2015-01-28 02828, 2015
CatQuest
reosarevok: that's what i meant :P
2015-01-28 02843, 2015
CatQuest
they are both joinphrases afaik
2015-01-28 02844, 2015
Leo_Verto
"and" and "&" can have different meanings in some cases
