I am trying to enter some older works of mine when I led R Band, but can't figure out how to declare "R Band" as the artist. From the R Band page I tried to add work
2015-02-15 04626, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
Is "R Band" in the database yet?
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TheBikeGuitarist
since yesterday lol
2015-02-15 04639, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
with its three members
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TheBikeGuitarist
and linked to from multiple pages of my website
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hibiscuskazenek1
If there's an MBID for the band, use it
2015-02-15 04612, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
tried that but only options were as writer or composer etc
2015-02-15 04618, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
not as "band" or "group"
2015-02-15 04622, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
What kind of relationship are you after?
2015-02-15 04652, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
Original performer?
2015-02-15 04603, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
might not be ready yet.... had two story/concept albums in 1994... planned to enter all songs as works then each album as an aggregate work
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TheBikeGuitarist
I am the artist ya
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hibiscuskazenek1
You should add the releases too
2015-02-15 04628, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
well that is the tricky part
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hibiscuskazenek1
Then you can link the resultant recordings to the workd
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hibiscuskazenek1
works*
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hibiscuskazenek1
How is it tricky?
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TheBikeGuitarist
in 1994 printed songbooks handed them out to audiences performed the albums as albums
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hibiscuskazenek1
Oh, so it's not a recorded medium?
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TheBikeGuitarist
but never recorded and released as vinyl or cd or anything like that
2015-02-15 04620, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
I have recordings of ten of the twelve available, but my domain isn't on whitelist yet for free downloads
2015-02-15 04634, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
I do about half the songs still in my shows twenty years later
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hibiscuskazenek1
There's a free download whitelist?
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TheBikeGuitarist
the whitelist for valid links
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hibiscuskazenek1 was not aware of this
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TheBikeGuitarist
like wikipedia etc
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hibiscuskazenek1
That's autoselect, not a whitelist
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TheBikeGuitarist
I can't offer an mp3 from my website as THE example of the song
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hibiscuskazenek1
You can link it using "download for free"
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hibiscuskazenek1
unless something is stopping you
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TheBikeGuitarist
not if my site isn't on the whitelist....but getting confused now
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hibiscuskazenek1
There is no download whitelist
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hibiscuskazenek1
We only have whitelists for info databases, lyric sites and score databases
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TheBikeGuitarist
there is something called whitelist that when I tried to add a link to my website said because I wasn't on it it was not allowed
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hibiscuskazenek1
If you're trying to link to a piece of sheet music, that may be what's being blocked
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TheBikeGuitarist
and was told to open a ticket for it
2015-02-15 04641, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
no sheet music nope
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hibiscuskazenek1
Can you show me the ticket?
2015-02-15 04608, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
but reason here tonight is asking how to indicate "R Band" as the "Artist" for a "Work" maybe not possible....
2015-02-15 04618, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
There really isn't
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TheBikeGuitarist
have not opened it yet but hold on I will get the info I was given
2015-02-15 04658, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
what about the aggregate work of the story album (12 songs in specific sequence)??? so I can't list R Band as the band the album is from?
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hibiscuskazenek1
Work artists are normally represented via Recording-Work relationships, but that's not possible in this case
2015-02-15 04623, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
I have fallen through cracks in the system my whole life. happening again lol. I don't fit any existing categories lol
2015-02-15 04630, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
You can link the band or its members as writing the works (that's about it)
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hibiscuskazenek1
You're not alone in that regard
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TheBikeGuitarist
oh so list the band as "writer"? oh yeah could have done that
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TheBikeGuitarist
writer for the album?
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hibiscuskazenek1
If there were individual contributors that took precedence those take precedence
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hibiscuskazenek1
Oy vey, this is tricky
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TheBikeGuitarist
i have a piece of every song, about 98 percent credits composing and lyricising
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hibiscuskazenek1
I don't think albums are normally considered aggregate works
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hibiscuskazenek1
If there's an underlying story that might change things
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TheBikeGuitarist
unless they are concept or story albums. ...
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hibiscuskazenek1 has never seen any aggregate works added for concept albums
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TheBikeGuitarist
both mine were R College Story and then that story continued for another story album as R Blonde Story both 1994
2015-02-15 04610, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
when songs are meant to be taken in specific sequence I read the docs here about that
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CallerNo6
I would certainly add concept albums as a super-work
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TheBikeGuitarist
sounds like my story albums quality as aggregate works based on my understanding of doc I read
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TheBikeGuitarist
oh I like that! I'll start making capes and tights for my albums!
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TheBikeGuitarist
then the two super works together (since second one continues same character as first album) would be a super duper work?
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CallerNo6
somewhere there must be an ur-work
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TheBikeGuitarist
and btw since you are CallerNo6 you win our grand prize of three free kittens
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TheBikeGuitarist
sorry tired and silly
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CallerNo6
does that include free delivery?
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TheBikeGuitarist
mother cat already delivered them
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CallerNo6
can't put a price on that, I guess
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hibiscuskazenek1
Kitties! :#
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VxJasonxV
hibiscuskazenek1 and TheBikeGuitarist have the same length of nick
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TheBikeGuitarist
think I'll see if I can list "R Band" as "writer" of the song and still have the separate persons listed as composer, lyricist, etc. Good idea? Bad idea?
2015-02-15 04603, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
I should be The Bicycling Guitarist but was truncated.
2015-02-15 04624, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
Mine got messed up after I had to change wireless access points
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hibiscuskazenek1
(for some reason one is refusing to connect to certain sites)
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VxJasonxV
It looks cool to have it fill so much of the screen
oops sorry I see kitties on the screen and go nuts
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TheBikeGuitarist
think it happens to a lot of people based on what's on the internet
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hibiscuskazenek1
The Internet does love cats
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TheBikeGuitarist
do ya think that would be the better song for me to go on America's got talent with (shortened to 90 seconds?) or an instrumental?
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TheBikeGuitarist
got an upbeat instrumental called Traveling would be my top other choice, but the kitty song is so fun might they like it more?
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hibiscuskazenek1
I'd sing it too
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hibiscuskazenek1
They'd probably ask you to sing if you played an instrumental
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TheBikeGuitarist
but I am not The Bicycling Singer :(
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TheBikeGuitarist
I will ask the producer who is assisting me what she thinks I should go with, and probably take her advice
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CallerNo6
I would think you'd want to choose a song that really lets your personality come through.
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TheBikeGuitarist
kitty it is then, or traveling.... those are my two faves for 90 second impress the folks songs
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TheBikeGuitarist
have fun folks guess I'll enter more stuff later peace out
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yeeeargh
heyho, i have some questions about relating rateyourmusic to musicbrainz. i just stumbled upon an edit where a mb-release has been related to rym-album. i think this should be related to mb-release-groups instead. while looking at the rym page i noticed that they have entities called issues which would be better suited to mb-releases
