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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Can an auto-editor help with this? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31642191
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        A new user added a duplicate of it and I need to fix the medium before I can merge the two
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      • nikki
        approved
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        thanks
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      • kuno
        those are described as "bonus video" on the backcover tracklist
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      • kuno
        I would assume those are in a data track, not part of the CD tracklist
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      • nikki
        they are
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      • nikki
        (in the edit, I mean)
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      • kuno
        oh we have fancy new features, sorry
      • 2015-02-16 04712, 2015

      • nikki
        yes :P
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      • nikki
        Nyanko-sensei: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-7489 is the ticket for artist credits on relationships
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        oh. I see the reasoning in those comments, but do we really want all the random names asian artists use during their career? I mean, searching for single letter artists will be a huge pain with all the disambiguations
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      • nikki
        apparently some people would apparently prefer that, yes
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      • nikki
        ...
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      • nikki
        one day I'm gonna learn to put words like apparently and anyway in a sentence only once
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      • nikki
        anyway, the ticket has a lot of votes, so maybe it'll end up being done eventually
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      • nikki
        maybe not
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        I guess I'll continue adding new entries for them
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      • Freso
        I feel like more people want 7489 than don't.
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      • Freso
        But I may be biased since I'm in the former group. :)
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      • nikki
        most of the arguments against it that I've seen have made no sense to me
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      • nikki
        the only point I've seen being made that does make sense is that different releases/sources might credit the artist differently and then you have to pick a version to use... but unless we can magically force people to always credit the legal name (good luck with that), that's going to be a problem whether the names are artist credits or performance names
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      • nikki
        (makes sense to me, I mean. I hope the arguments people are making make sense to themselves even if I don't understand them :P)
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      • JesseW
        nikki: is there interest in filling in descriptions for instruments that currently lack them?
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      • JesseW
        I'm not sure how many places the descriptions are shown...
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      • nikki
        that question could mean two things to me, and depending on which one you meant, yes, or no :P
      • 2015-02-16 04703, 2015

      • nikki
        they're shown in the search results, so they're useful and it would be good to fill in descriptions
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      • nikki
        so if you're asking if it'd be good to do, yes, if you're asking if anyone has offered, no
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      • JesseW
        I was asking the first. OK, what's the best way to send them in?
      • 2015-02-16 04715, 2015

      • JesseW
        (i.e. I am offering to supply some)
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      • nikki
        probably depends how many you have :)
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      • nikki
        I guess entering a ticket in jira under instrument requests works, especially for individual things
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      • nikki
        for a whole load at once, hmm, not sure, maybe email? maybe a ticket with an attachment?
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      • JesseW
        I'll be doing one at a time, so I think I'll make a ticket, and add them as comments. Will that work?
      • 2015-02-16 04746, 2015

      • nikki
        I'd probably prefer separate tickets in that case, 'cause I can't mark a comment as done :)
      • 2015-02-16 04758, 2015

      • JesseW
        heh. ok, will do
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      • nikki
        (i.e. it's hard to track the progress)
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      • JesseW
        what copyright status do they need to have (i.e. can I copy from Wikipedia)?
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      • nikki
        I think they get included in the cc0 dump, so they probably shouldn't just be copy/pasted from wikipedia, but since the descriptions are generally only a sentence or two, it's probably going to end up sounding a lot like what wikipedia says anyway
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      • JesseW
        ok
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      • JesseW
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      • nikki
        seems decent :) I would normally make it an actual sentence though, starting with the instrument name, so "A/The $instrument is ..."
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      • nikki
        (probably more useful for translators like that too)
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      • JesseW
        OK, will adjust.
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      • JesseW
        done
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      • nikki
        cool
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      • JesseW
        is the link to the MBID useful or not?
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      • nikki
        yes
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      • nikki
        saves me having to search :)
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      • JesseW
        easy for me to add
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        JesseW: Is this the instrument from the Ricola commercials?
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        (just trying to get a mental picture of it)
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      • JesseW
        hibiscuskazenek1: I'm not sure -- I'm just paraphrasing the wikipedia articles. :-)
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        RRIIIIIIIICOLAAAAAA!
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      • JesseW
        yep, same instrument
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      • JesseW
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      • nikki
        you don't have to link them all here :)
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      • JesseW
        heh, it encourages me, if it's not disruptive...
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      • JesseW
        and as seen above, sometimes prompts people to post interesting links...
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      • nikki
        well, if you really want to :P
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      • nikki
        I'm not sure I could stop you anyway
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      • JesseW
        useful to know it's not needed, though.
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      • JesseW
        eh, it's useful to know -- I'd stop if I was only doing it to bring them to your attention
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      • JesseW
        stop posting them here, I mean
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Speaking of useful information: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31643805
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I don't think I got a reply on this before. I'm not sure how to present this in MB http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h188…
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        ~introducing Def Tech is, from what I can gather, supposed to be a featured artist credit
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      • JesseW
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        that ricola thing is an alphorn i think
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        UGH hibiscuskazenek1 MUST you always be so glum
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        About what?
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      • JesseW
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: yes, I'm sure it is an alphorn.
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: Ricola is a brand of cough drops (I'm not sure they sell them in Norway)
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        i.. Know that. als i he said it wrong ond we havethme in norway
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        if I hadn't know I would have asked or googled
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        also t's fairly understandable from context
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        sometimes commercials don't make sense
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      • nikki wonders what is understandable from the context
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        well this one wasdumb. sure, but fairly understandable
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        that it's a cough drop
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      • nikki
        ah
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        i prefer the one we got here with the singing packages of them :D
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      • hibiscuskazenek1 has to see that
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        and they sang and the last one was stuck or something but at the end i managed to start and sang higer than all the others :D
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      • hibiscuskazenek1 is scouring YouTube
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Does anyone think it'd be a good idea to classify artists by their vocal ranges?
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        (as a category on their pages, I mean)
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      • JesseW
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: thanks for adding the descriptions
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      • nikki
        hibiscuskazenek1: you mean like saying someone is a soprano?
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Yes
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      • nikki
        heh
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Sort of adding a drop-down box from which users can select the one that applies
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        (if the artist's range is unknown or unclassifiable it can be left blank)
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      • nikki
        me and reosarevok were idly talking about pretty much exactly that less than 12 hours ago
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        oh wow
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      • nikki
        the problem is mostly that it'd be a schema change
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        True
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I wanted to run the idea by a few people before I made a ticket
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      • nikki
        (it started as a discussion about whether we should be able to link artists directly to instruments, which would be easy since it'd just be a new relationship type)
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        that sounds feasible
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        http://www.speedtest.net/result/4146229443.png <-- lol. just tested our office's ISP
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      • nikki
        show off :P
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        way to rub it in our faces
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        we're on a gigabit
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        the speed is not there :<
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        which you can't get here thanks to Marsha Blackburn
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        NA is ridiculously bad at internet speeds
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Because ISPs refuse to upgrade them
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        even my previous country is in top 10
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        Moldova - the poorest country in Europe
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        has better internet than US o_O
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Way better
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I used to play TF2 with a guy in Latvia and he bragged his country was second best
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        was
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        at the time
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        now asia is wiping the floor with EU
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        Singapore, HK, Tokyo
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I heard South Korea has the top connections in the world
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      • Nyanko-sensei
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        looks like it
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        Moldova is #15 on download and #8 on upload
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I seem to recall some Hollywood bigwig saying we needed to keep download speeds slow to discourage piracy