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      • Nyanko-sensei prays to the ninjas of musicbrainz about the recovery of the usual service
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        have to edit with the debug inspector on atm in case ajax posts fail
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      • STalKer-X_j
        down again :x
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        so it's not just me
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      • STalKer-X_j
        nope
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        hello TheBikeGuitarist
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        hi hibiscuskazeneko
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        we're just passing time here since MB is slow as molasses
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      • STalKer-X_j
        i will just go back to sleep :x
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        I've been polishing and waxing my bicycle six to eight hours every day the past two weeks. I do that about once every six years.
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        touched up paint etc.
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        most guitarists have big speakers with tiny wheels. My bicycle with the amp strapped to rear rack is like a tiny speaker with big wheels. It is a "riding amplifier" sort of like a riding lawnmower lol.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        neat
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        do you power the amp by pedaling?
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        no, it has six AA batteries that last more than 20 hours loud enough to play with drums
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        Roland MicroCube amp.... really nice sounds... many options but I picked a sound I like and almost all my songs have that same setting
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        plus when you witness me perform on the bicycle live riding circles in front of you, you get a Doppler effect from the varying distances and directions of the sound
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        not like you can adjust it while riding, can you?
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        not safely really nope
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        didn't think so
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        but I never go fast, first gear all the time, so no big deal to stop and re-set the amp if I wanted to (but I don't....I like the sound I picked)
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        it is clean channel with some tone, very light reverb, and just the start of phase shifter for a slow sweep
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        pickup switch on guitar is the second from the front, makes the bridge and middle pickups together of the three I think
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        that's the tone of the bicycling guitarist past few years since I got the Roland amp
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        been playing that pickup switch position for decades though
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        sometimes my hand in sweeping windmills will accidentally knock the switch to bridge pickup...sometimes that adds to the song and makes it better
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        several of my youtube videos have that type of thing going on, where sounds "just happen" that are not planned
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        so maybe at a higher level of consciousness I *am* planning it lol, but there are no thoughts while I play...just music flowing through me and out my fingers
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        bye for now have fun
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        see you
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      • nikki is way too late to the conversation and most of the people who were talking at the time aren't even here any more D:
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      • nikki
        anyway, I do have a script running to check urls and store info about it locally, it doesn't remove ones which appear to be broken from mb though
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      • nikki
        partly because some sites suck and will claim something is a 404 when it isn't really
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      • nikki
        I do have another script which I run from time to time to update urls which are redirecting to another sufficiently similar url though
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      • nikki
        some sites blocked me though :P
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      • STalKer-X_j
        ruaok: sup? :)
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      • ruaok
        MB, for a change.
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      • nikki
        shh, don't jinx it
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      • STalKer-X_j
        ruaok since when? :D
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      • bitstorm
        does anyone know where musicbrainz picard pulls the genre tags from when you enable "folksonomy tags"?
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      • bitstorm
        there's a bunch I want to fix
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      • bitstorm
        I cant see anywhere to amend them on the MB website so guessing their external?
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      • ruaok
        I’m going to build some new indexes while things are quiet. (no recording indexes though)
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      • hopphopp
        what do you say about the title of this album? http://musicbrainz.org/release/2c0684b5-6137-4dfe…
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      • hopphopp
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      • hopphopp
        one track is written using japanese, hence i think the title of the album also should be “Hearts 日本”
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      • hopphopp
        rather than Hearts Japan EP
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      • ruaok
        nope. started index builing and load shot to 100.
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      • ruaok
        no indexes, sorry.
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      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: Postgres troubles <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2015/03/15/postgres-troubles/>
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      • dns53
        one thing about postgres, do you have the autovaccum daemon enabled / have you analysed the database recently?
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      • STalKer-X_j
        ruaok looks like nginx stats are off? o.o
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      • ruaok
        dns53: autovacuum is enabled.
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      • dns53
        well my quick guess is the statistics are wrong and decides to choose the wrong optimisations ie wrong index or wrong order in performing actions
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      • dns53
        you can fix this by analysing the table again so it has a better guess of what order things should e done
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      • dns53
        doing a full vacuume will fix this but this locks the database so it has consiquences
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      • dns53
        you could analyze each table one by one to make sure everything is up to date
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      • dns53
        but this uses a lot of cpu / io so it will make things worse before it gets better
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      • ruaok
        we’d do a full downtime for that.
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      • ruaok
        worth tryinng.
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      • dns53
        I am a dba but i work in oracle so i know the general principals but i'm not an expert in postgres
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      • dns53
        so what can happen is the database needs to join two tables, does it look at the first table and join the results to the second, or look at the second and join to the first
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      • dns53
        the difference can be big, and the database uses statistics to make a guess at what option is most likely better
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      • dns53
        working out what is better could theoretically be calculated but this could take longer than running the query so it has to make educated guesses
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      • dns53
        if you have 31+ joins it would take more than the heat death of the universe to work out what of the possible combinations of order would be better
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      • ruaok
        understood. but this has never happened to us before — why now??
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      • dns53
        any database can go the same way, it may have now decided to use or not use an index that it did before
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      • dns53
        say you have a table with 1000000 rows and you delete all but 10, if the statistics are wrong it will still think the rows are still there
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      • ruaok
        dns53: understood.
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      • ruaok
        but we haven’t made any drastic changes like that.
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      • ruaok
        still, I understand that these hidden thresholds are everywhere
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      • guigui_
        hello guys
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      • guigui_
        im having a problem with accessing musicbrainzvm:8080 from the virtualbox-2014-05-14
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      • guigui_
        searching on musicbrainzvm:5000 works perfectly
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      • guigui_
        on port 8080 i only managed to get it worked localy
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      • guigui_
        i tried to change jetty to listen to all traffic but doesnt seem to work
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      • guigui_
        do u have any idea what i could do wrong
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      • guigui_
        and so i can access 8080 from my host?
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      • KRSCuan
        I could use some votes on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/32140490 and http://musicbrainz.org/artist/28f5ef49-1192-4801-… so I can finish cleaning up these artists.
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      • guigui_
        any help really really appreciated :)
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      • Mineo
        I think you need to configure port forwarding from the vm to your host system as well, otherwise jetty can listen as much as it likes but the hypervisor doesn't forward any packets to it
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      • hopphopp
        does anyone know why i can’t add new releases? get this error message Caught exception in MusicBrainz::Server::Controller::ReleaseEditor->add "CGI param clash for mediums.0.track.-1.name=-1 at lib/MusicBrainz/Server/Controller/ReleaseEditor.pm line 111"
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      • hopphopp
        using the add cluster as release plugin for picard
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      • guigui_
        ok mineo i will check that weird that port 5000 is working though
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      • nikki
        that seems like a problem with the plugin
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      • nikki
        I'm guessing the files have no track numbers or something
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      • Mineo
        guigui_: yes, that's preconfigured
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      • guigui_
        :)
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      • guigui_
        ah true
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      • guigui_
        i see it
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      • guigui_
        sorry
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      • guigui_
        not an expert
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      • guigui_
        oh mineo
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      • guigui_
        thank you so much
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      • guigui_
        its fixed
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      • guigui_
        how come it is not preconfigured for 8080
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      • guigui_
        too?
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      • guigui_
        could make sense
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      • guigui_
        thx again u made my sunday :P
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      • hopphopp
        nikki: hmm, they all have 0 as track number
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      • Freso
        hibiscuskazeneko | now to check for more (I know of a few other cities that stretch across the county line) - please report these at http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/AREQ :)
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        They're already in the database: are tickets even necessary?
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      • nikki
        the ticket tracker is for tracking issues in general, not only for requesting new things :)
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      • nikki
        plus the tickets will be there to remind people later if they don't have time to deal with it there and then
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      • Freso
        ^