#musicbrainz

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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        it's not quite 7 AM here
      • STalKer-X_c
        you are a crazy one
      • hibiscuskazenek1
        me?
      • STalKer-X_c
        sure
      • it's not even 7am and you are up already.
      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I've been up since yesterday afternoon
      • this is what happens when I'm home for extended periods with nothing to do
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      • STalKer-X_c
        :x
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        it does mean that I have to get lots of sleep so I'm not a mess tomorrow
      • STalKer-X_c
        what is tomorrow? besides tuesday
      • hibiscuskazenek1
        one of the 2 days I have to go to class
      • the other being Thursday
      • STalKer-X_c
        sounds cool.
      • ok, all my available echoes discs submitted
      • missing quite a lot :<
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      • the guy with that disc has over 14000 pieces in his collection :X
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      • release flood :>
      • good thing i don't add vinyls :D
      • Freso
        Why not?
      • We want vinyls too…
      • STalKer-X_c
        go ahead and add them :)
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      • i'd need an A3-scanner for them :<
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm, some people have gotten reasonable results with photography (requires careful lighting) or stitching.
      • STalKer-X_c
        i sadly don't fall in the category "some people" :x
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      • CatQuest uses the scanners at school
      • CatQuest
        some copymachines have the ability to scanto usb instead of copy
      • STalKer-X_c
        i don't go to school :)
      • anyway, a good A3 scanner is cheap
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      • CatQuest
      • STalKer-X_c
        ;p
      • 250 euro for an A3 scanner
      • goes as cheap as 220.
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      • Freso
        When one says "Boston", one is generally referring to... the Massachusetts one?
      • ruchiranga
        I am in the middle of designing a proposal for the http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-7789 improvement. Do you think providing all the available search fields from index search syntax in the GUI would be a good idea?
      • Freso
        ruchiranga: If you can make it work usable, sure.
      • ruchiranga
        or just some frequently used ones like gender tags country etc?
      • Freso
        *usably
      • Leftmost
        Freso, is there another?
      • Freso
        ruchiranga: I assume you already read https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Development/Summer... - right?
      • Leftmost: Most certainly.
      • Leftmost
        Do you mean the band, or another location with that name?
      • ruchiranga
        Fresco, yes i have already contributed to the database too :)
      • Freso
        I don't know of any bands. I'm talking about the city, of which there are at least four.
      • Leftmost
        Huh. Had no idea.
      • Freso
        2 US ones, a South Africa one, and a UK one.
      • Leftmost
        Wow, there are a lot of them, according to Wikipedia.
      • Freso
        (A*3 US ones.
      • *3
      • Leftmost
      • Freso
        I don't care about the band. :po
      • * :p
      • *"the"
      • Leftmost
        Ten in the US, it seems. Not counting those named Boston Township or anything other than just Boston.
      • Freso
        Is MA the Northwestern state?
      • Leftmost
        Northeastern.
      • Freso
        Yes, that's what I meant.
      • :|
      • Leftmost
        And they say Americans are bad at geography. ;)
      • STalKer-X_c
        i am in a search of specific userscripts :<
      • Freso
        Happy hunting.
      • Leftmost: Well, you're the ones calling your west "the East".
      • Leftmost
        Freso, the world ends at the tip of Alaska. Don't you know anything?
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      • CallerNo6
        Leftmost, and you can see dragons from your bedroom window!
      • Leftmost
        Just don't let them catch you looking.
      • CallerNo6
        (well, not 'you'. Alaskans)
      • ruchiranga
        Fresco: So I was thinking of something like a page which has a side bar containing the filters and clicking multiple filters would display the results accordingly on the right. And the filters would be in like a hierarchy where the user will go expanding categories and narrowing the constraints as they go deep
      • the hierarchy would make the page look simple
      • yet show all the necessary fields the user is interested in
      • does that sound like a good idea?
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      • STalKer-X_c
        similar to jira search?
      • ruchiranga
        im sorry i do not have an idea what jira seach looks like
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      • I just had a look at the jira search and yes what I meant is something like that :)
      • STalKer-X_c
      • Freso
        ruchiranga: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/secure/IssueNavi... ← Jira search (although an old version)
      • Anyway, yes, if it can be made to work without being too confusion, it would be great. :)
      • ruchiranga
        thanks for the links. that is kind of exactly what I had in my mind :) so do you suggest making some mockups as the proposal or just text explaining the way it would work?
      • STalKer-X_c
        i find the jira search a bit too overcomplex
      • what i imagine is something like when you add a release. first tab, release information.
      • reosarevok_
        STalKer-X_c, wondering if you have seen http://mbsandbox.org/~nikki/browseartists/
      • (which is linked from the GSoC stuff so I guess ruchiranga has seen it, but maybe not others :) )
      • STalKer-X_c
        that is different from what i had in mind :)
      • reosarevok_
        I mean, that's nowhere near a finished thing, but as an idea I like it :)
      • STalKer-X_c
        :)
      • ruchiranga
        that link is where i got the inspiration from :) wouldn't it be better to provide the possible choices to the user than making them to type them?
      • STalKer-X_c
        ok, i guess I need 3 fields then.
      • ruchiranga
        im sorry i didn't understand what you meant
      • STalKer-X_c
        first the main category (artist, release, label, event, bla), second all the properties from the main category, for artists the stuff like type, gender, country. and then a field where you input your searchterm :D
      • reosarevok_
        Hmm. I guess it should start very general (just a search field) so you can get results from all types, which is part of the point - but if you do select an entity type it should provide all the extra fine-tuning for the type
      • (as in, no reason to show a "gender" option if "artist" isn't selected I guess?)
      • (but for example "area" is more general, so you could be "all artists, labels and releases with this name from France")
      • ruchiranga
        but may be a user wants just to browse through the databse?
      • reosarevok_
        ruchiranga: oh, sure, I don't mean they should fill the field mandatorily :)
      • Just that most people will want to so it would make sense to have that fairly up and central
      • STalKer-X_c
        reosarevok_ right now the search forces you to select a category :p
      • reosarevok_
        STalKer-X_c: that's something we would like to stop doing, at least as an option :)
      • ruchiranga
        yes that sounds cool :) so a user can either put a search term and narrow the search OR just browse the db without a seach term
      • reosarevok_
        ruchiranga: even if you *do* decide to make the search field the starting point, you can always make it so * works as "ok, show me *all*"
      • STalKer-X_c
        i would like an option to use &advanced=1 from the search.
      • reosarevok_
        STalKer-X_c: there's a script around for that in the meantime
      • (dunno where right now but I bet someone here does know :) )
      • STalKer-X_c
        haven't found it.
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      • i also want a userscript that provides links to acousticbrainz
      • and an import from musik-sammler.de userscript :)
      • reosarevok_
      • STalKer-X_c
        i want i want i want *pout* =X
      • ruchiranga
        yes we can make the search field to have * if no input is given :) so how do you suggest I prepare the draft proposal? mockups or just text explaining the funcitonality?
      • reosarevok_
        I'd say mostly text but throwing some quick mockups doesn't hurt
      • "Text text text IMAGE SEE THIS IS WHAT I MEAN text" :p
      • STalKer-X_c
        reosarevok_: works like a charm :* maybe there should be a combined repository for all scripts that exist? :)
      • ruchiranga
        :D
      • krisalpha
        hello reosarevok ,, need to ask something about adding social features to events
      • reosarevok_
        Someone had a list somewhere in the wiki but dunno how complete it is nor where in the wiki it is :p
      • ruchiranga
        thanks for the help :)
      • reosarevok_
        Go ahead krisalpha
      • np ruchiranga :)
      • krisalpha
        sir i am interested in this , i need to know how much perl and how much python work does it require
      • will it be more perl or more python ...
      • reosarevok_
        Well, probably more perl since our site is mostly perl. But that depends on what you want to do with it. The ideas are just that, ideas - in this case we don't have a lot of clear ideas of how to do more with this
      • So basically you should tell us what you think would be useful and you can decide what to use for it :)
      • STalKer-X_c
        wow great. a userscript that removes the ratings *-*
      • reosarevok_
        GSoC is not a job, we don't give you a series of orders and say "do this" - you need to tell us what you're going to want to do
      • krisalpha
        i was planning to use more python for it .....
      • is there any codebase for initial development.. and where??
      • STalKer-X_c
        reosarevok_ actually some organisations treat it like a job :x
      • reosarevok_
        STalKer-X_c: I know, but those are the ones who can actually afford someone being a boss :) We're too small for that, so we need the person to have more initiative than just follow orders
      • (because our team is way too busy to boss every GSoC student and still do their job, so the mentors help when the student has doubts but don't give straight tasks that much)
      • krisalpha: what we have for events now is all in https://bitbucket.org/metabrainz/musicbrainz-se... - mostly under /lib for inner workings and /root for UI