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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        liftarn is at it again… https://musicbrainz.org/edit/32857503
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      • Hmm, this release doesn't look like it belongs in MB https://musicbrainz.org/release/deca9a2c-350a-4...
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      • CatQuest doesn't see whats wrong with that telease. it was released. it's got the wrong artists, that's true
      • CatQuest
        also probably bootleg with the inclusion of non-licensed game music.
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      • i can edit atleast a few of the ones who i know /and are actually mentioned on the site
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        CatQuest: That "release" looks like a fan-made compilation
      • kuno
        hibiscuskazeneko: fan-made compilations belong in MB
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        They do?
      • I was told otherwise
      • kuno
        hibiscuskazeneko: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Beginners_Guide says "While we welcome bootlegs, we discourage adding home-made compilations or mixtapes. These kinds of releases are not widely available and any information about them is typically only useful to the individual who created them. Releases such as these are usually removed from our database. "
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Exactly my point. These are basically mixtapes shared with the outside world.
      • kuno
        but the shared with the outside world is an important aspect of it
      • the distinction is that if I make a compilation at home and share it with a few friends and family, only a few folks will have a copy of that "release", so it is not useful data for all the other musicbrainz users
      • but if someone takes the effort to make cover art for the release, put it on a website or forum or otherwise shares it to a larger community of hundreds or thousands of listeners -- then it is useful for that group of people to have it in the musicbrainz database
      • ofcourse where the cut-off point is is a bit difficult to determine, so use some common sense. In general though if it looks like the data could be useful to people, it's better to allow it. Those who don't have/listen to the release will not be harmed by having it in the database.
      • Leftmost
        I experience a great deal of physical and psychological trauma for every release in the database for which I have no use.
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      • kuno
        Leftmost :)
      • CatQuest
        the fac that you can download it right of that page means that it is indeed "released"
      • I use the definition "leased" (instead of usefullness since many releases aren't "useful" eg case in point those trolling releases) if it's been "released" to a wider populus it's been released and belong in mb
      • erh s/leased/released
      • also if it's *new* music, even if the "releasing" part is really limited. if whats in it is something that was "unreleased" anywhere else I'd recon it's useful (heh) and i'd add it
      • "I'm totally blown away by the Baron's compilation. It's so professionally executed with superb selections and track manipulations never used before on Infite Game Music. He's made an awesome job reviving tracks from really old games like Balloon Fight and Excite Bike seamlessly mixing them with newer ones"
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        likedis's bot... did a really sloppy job :<
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Where this time?
      • Nyanko-sensei
        kiryu
      • mass merging a ton of stuff atm
      • feels like good ol' days, kinda -__-;
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        This is why it's best to have actual human beings add data… we can do quality control
      • Nyanko-sensei
        at least can edit stuff after it added it
      • just the sloppyness of adding extra recordings/groups
      • semi-automated would be the best though
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        The problem with that is that machines can move much faster than we can. The instant it starts auto-pulling data, it'll outpace the humans who clean up after it and leave a mess in its wake.
      • That's why I spent 3-4 months tagging all the artists for which Likedis Auto added data.
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I edit mostly the stuff that is in my collection. needless to say it's a huge one (questioning myself whether I will ever listen to everything in it)
      • hibiscuskazeneko still has yet to listen to a good portion of her music collection as well
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        if only I had a working turntable...
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I use iTunes. ripped almost everything
      • CatQuest
        i thought the likeds bot was banned for making to much mess?
      • Nyanko-sensei
        it was, but the aftermath is still there
      • CatQuest
        its not following code of botduct is it?
      • oh
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        There's a code of botduct?
      • CatQuest
        you get yes votes from me atleast :D
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        and me
      • Nyanko-sensei
        thanks a lot ^^
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        no problem
      • it's what I'm here for
      • [side note] I'm watching Dog the Bounty Hunter now, and now a certain song is stuck in my head
      • (it's not the show's theme song)
      • Nyanko-sensei
        I discovered noisemaker and now am stuck on their youtube playlist
      • CatQuest
        :P
      • Nyanko-sensei
        http://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/d8818460-c15... preliminary mass merge done. now to wait for them to get applied so I can the missing info
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Nyanko-sensei: These guys remind me a lot of Linkin Park https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS1fn8VZ3rU
      • Nyanko-sensei
        japanese linking park :3
      • *linkin
      • Zastai
        https://musicbrainz.org/edit/32834211 - i love how this guy calls pankkake using "flatmuffin"
      • s/using//
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        "flatmuffin"? Is that like "flatfoot" (an obsolete term for a do-gooder)?
      • Zastai
        it's like a pancake being a flat muffin
      • hibiscuskazeneko
        oh… classy
      • though muffins don't go well with maple syrup
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      • Lotheric
        Is there an eta or a solution coming for all the 502s ?
      • gotta take the issue with some humour :)
      • reosarevok
        "use beta" is what I have been doing, but maybe I just got very lucky
      • I have hit like 4 in the last week :p
      • Lotheric
        I get a 502 30-50% of the time this morning
      • I'll try beta
      • It seems better (so far)
      • Lotheric crosses fingers
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      • CatQuest pretty much gets 80%-50% 502's every link starts about as a 502 and refreshing it 2-3 sometimes times finally yields the actual page
      • CatQuest
        I'll try using beta, reo :)
      • also lol that dog. it should be on the error page XD
      • Lotheric
        He seems to be suffering (just like us) lol
      • haha
      • CatQuest
        ja
      • well. it seems reo once again was el righto
      • great! that means i *can* edit a bit later
      • ijabz2
        i dont understand why is using beta better seeing as they use the same db instance and it is a db problem ?
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      • reosarevok
        Well, I imagine that means it's not a db problem
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      • CatQuest
        yea
      • i seea a markant huge difference here
      • seriously
      • oh god why didn't I just try beta last night
      • ahahaha
      • Lotheric
        Is there a gamma ? might be even less buggy :p
      • haha
      • ijabz2
        well yeah, but Im thought ruaok said the 502s occur when pgbouncer ran our of connections (to db) so confusing/interesting
      • derwin
      • reosarevok
        Oh, meh, there goes some income
      • (they probably deserved it, but)
      • derwin
        yea.
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      • Lotheric
        Release Group Merge Request: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/32873777 if anyone wants to vote/comment
      • :)
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      • CatQuest
        Lotheric: pls use beta?
      • Lotheric
      • CatQuest
        (your link was 502 automatically :P)
      • yea i changed the url and voted already :D
      • Lotheric
        Sometime, I end up on the main server somehow... so many tabs opened
      • :)
      • CatQuest
        ugh I'm going ot just stop looking at open edits on [unknown] it's just too depressing. so many edits *not* moving stuff away from [unknown] but adding shit or linking shit. most of those eits don't actually "fix" [unknown] data
      • Lotheric is wondering why Various Artists is not [various artists]