No matter how much attention Devo gets, I still feel like they're underrated.
2015-08-08 22030, 2015
snoozebrainz
if the song titles are added with more information in the booklet compared to the back-cover, which one should be prefered (like song on back cover, song (some info) in the cover booklet)?
2015-08-08 22035, 2015
CallerNo6
Like Pere Ubu, but something people actually enjoy listening to.
2015-08-08 22039, 2015
Leftmost
snoozebrainz, opinions vary. I prefer the back of the case with further information presented through disambiguation, recordings, and relationships, but you may get other answers.
2015-08-08 22030, 2015
snoozebrainz
they should name it top 500 greatest rock and roll albums for people that really like beatles :)
2015-08-08 22011, 2015
CallerNo6
I'm glad the beatles didn't release 500 albums then
2015-08-08 22014, 2015
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2015-08-08 22056, 2015
CallerNo6
also, agree with Leftmost on back vs insert. but there are probably exceptions. link to the album in question?
snoozebrainz: for classical at least we'd usually prefer booklet, but otherwise, not sure :)
2015-08-08 22010, 2015
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2015-08-08 22056, 2015
snoozebrainz
I felt like it reducted to information so that was why I voted no, but then I felt bad cause I might have caused him to cancel it something that maybe not was as clearcut as I thought ;/
2015-08-08 22012, 2015
snoozebrainz
reduced the amount of information even :)
2015-08-08 22022, 2015
reosarevok
Oh. duh, missed the link :p Let's see this specific case :)
2015-08-08 22042, 2015
CallerNo6
oh. yeah, I would have voted "no" too. a multi-disc compilation probably can't fit everything they'd like to on the back cover.
2015-08-08 22017, 2015
xplt
ZaphodBeeblebrox: >>"[21:38:48] ZaphodBeeblebrox nothing russian!" If it includes only albums, then no wonder: I can't remember anything spectacular in contemporary Russian music
2015-08-08 22029, 2015
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2015-08-08 22058, 2015
reosarevok
Not even Kino or something like that? I suspect in a more wide list they might have something. But yeah, it's a Rolling Stone list, they're never going to put in something that their readers won't have heard about
2015-08-08 22004, 2015
CallerNo6
Who /are/ their readers? People under 30 in a dentist's waiting room?
2015-08-08 22050, 2015
CallerNo6
(no offense to people under 30 who are in a dentist's waiting room!)
2015-08-08 22051, 2015
reosarevok
heh
2015-08-08 22055, 2015
reosarevok
"Writing in USA Today newspaper, Edna Gundersen described the list as predictable and "weighted toward testosterone-fueled vintage rock"."
2015-08-08 22056, 2015
snoozebrainz
seems to be almost only british and/or american bands as well
2015-08-08 22052, 2015
reosarevok
Yeah, that's for sure. But even withing that
2015-08-08 22054, 2015
reosarevok
They have Green Day but no Fugazi, or Bad Brains, or... I see Husker Du made it at the bottom of it all :p
2015-08-08 22036, 2015
reosarevok
It's shamelessly mainstream, which I guess it's not a bad thing, but it makes sense only for a certain definition of "greatest"
2015-08-08 22016, 2015
blup
indeed
2015-08-08 22020, 2015
CallerNo6
Some day maybe somebody will be able to explain the Green Day thing to me. I mean, they're okay I guess.
2015-08-08 22033, 2015
reosarevok
No Pulp and Blur, and Oasis at 378 (under Arctic Monkeys? I mean I personally do like the first Arctic Monkeys album more than Oasis, but still)
2015-08-08 22002, 2015
reosarevok
CallerNo6: too late, you're waay too much in the wrong side of 16
2015-08-08 22034, 2015
blup
I like that mashup thing
2015-08-08 22007, 2015
blup
"Bouleward of Broken Songs"
2015-08-08 22028, 2015
blup
English is dumb.. Boulevard
2015-08-08 22035, 2015
reosarevok
I mean, if I put on old Green Day stuff I'll definitely enjoy it
2015-08-08 22043, 2015
reosarevok
But that's mostly because I was a teenager at the right time :p
2015-08-08 22051, 2015
blup
heh
2015-08-08 22027, 2015
CallerNo6
I concede, "dookie" is a great title.
2015-08-08 22033, 2015
xplt
lol
2015-08-08 22045, 2015
reosarevok
Would I be able to claim with a straight face that they're in the 500 greatest albums of all time though? Pfft, I'd struggle to say with a straight face that they're in the 100 best punk albums of all time :p
2015-08-08 22025, 2015
blup
i listened to Deep Purple, Queen, Whitesnake, Scorpions, Alice Cooper and Metallica as a teen :P
2015-08-08 22053, 2015
reosarevok
I listened to Blind Guardian and Stratovarius :p
2015-08-08 22053, 2015
Leftmost
reosarevok, I'd struggle to say with a straight face that they're in the punk albums of all time. :-P
2015-08-08 22012, 2015
reosarevok
Which I'd also enjoy now but I would never claim are actually good :p
2015-08-08 22012, 2015
blup
didn't like contemporary stuff at all. which was.. uuh Nirvana and thel inke. years later i actually listened ot some Perl Jam and liked
2015-08-08 22040, 2015
blup
:)
2015-08-08 22047, 2015
reosarevok
Leftmost: the old ones are pretty much punk. I mean, soft punk, sure, but still
2015-08-08 22007, 2015
blup
yea I mean. I liked "Bobbysocks" when they won Eurovision so :P
2015-08-08 22011, 2015
CallerNo6
The "weighted towards vintage testosterone" part makes sense, I guess, if you figure that "album oriented rock" is pretty much that.
2015-08-08 22019, 2015
blup
also "Animalize" from Kiss
2015-08-08 22028, 2015
blup
hn
2015-08-08 22035, 2015
Leftmost
I liked Nevermind when I was growing up, but I think I appreciate Nirvana a lot more now than I did then.
2015-08-08 22046, 2015
reosarevok
They also actually were a pretty punk, DIY band at first, I have friends who saw them after their first album in some squat venue in the Basque Country where they made about zero money
2015-08-08 22047, 2015
blup feels that's uneccesarry sexist though. what females can't enoy this music?
2015-08-08 22057, 2015
blup
especially this is ironic vtr Betales?
2015-08-08 22034, 2015
blup
I uh. never really got "into" Nirvana
2015-08-08 22036, 2015
reosarevok
So I do have a fair amount of respect for Green Day (as opposed to, say, Panic at the Disco or all those crappy newer bands)
2015-08-08 22055, 2015
reosarevok
But still, no fucking way in hell they're greatest of anything :p
2015-08-08 22003, 2015
Leftmost
reosarevok, fair. I can't say that I knew much about them at that point. I'm only really familiar with their albums that got lots and lots of play and I feel like they're all pretty tame.
2015-08-08 22005, 2015
blup
oh yea Green DAy , i can't say I hate them. I haven't heard much but maybe 2 songs tohguh
2015-08-08 22009, 2015
blup
also Offspring
2015-08-08 22004, 2015
Leftmost
It's worth noting that I don't have a whole lot of regard for pop punk in general.
2015-08-08 22013, 2015
blup
feel the same about "Animlaize" I mean ,that album I love it soo much, still I wouldn't really put it on a "greatest xxx" type list
2015-08-08 22050, 2015
reosarevok
Leftmost: they *are* pretty tame, yeah - think they've always been
2015-08-08 22002, 2015
blup
I'm also amused by a few of these "anthology" and "best of" albums on this list
I mean, I'd much rather listen to Minor Threat or The Mob or Discharge, but still :)
2015-08-08 22036, 2015
blup
I actually like the "early" type punk stuff when it was more kinda rockish, the later stuff I don't like much
2015-08-08 22011, 2015
Leftmost
Not tame in quite the same way, I think. I just mean that the Green Day I've listened to is very well-suited to the mainstream tastes of the time. Granted, I have less perspective on early punk because I wasn't around then.
2015-08-08 22049, 2015
reosarevok
Probably true :)
2015-08-08 22055, 2015
reosarevok
(neither was I, of course)
2015-08-08 22011, 2015
reosarevok
Which is probably how they ended up with two albums in a list like that :p
2015-08-08 22033, 2015
blup
I feel so out of touch. i mean my "teen" music was like 70's and 80's stuff. in my teens, people where listening to green day and offsping and all those punk things. nirvana and such
2015-08-08 22053, 2015
reosarevok
Actually, looking at the rest of that list, I'm surprised Hüsker Dü somehow made it in, heh
