that release looks like something that crawled out of the bowels of /a/
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CallerNo6
that made me shift in my chair a little bit
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wooof
my problem is that it's definitely not "real" enough for my needs (playlist site) so easiest way to fix is to get it removed upstream, but musicbrainz understandably has a different criteria for "real"
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CallerNo6
wooof: you could tag it "troll" (or whatever) and filter on that
ugh, we could really use release localization / alternate tracklists / whatever it's gonna be called.
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CallerNo6
think of a good name now, or you'll be stuck with something as awful as "pseudo-release"
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CallerNo6
(no offense, whoever came up with "pseudo-release"! I still think you're awesome.)
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pankkake
I suppose pseudo release was created with a more generic purpose in mind
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hawke1
I think so. It was before NGS even.
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hawke1
so 'release' didn't even mean the same thing it does now.
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CallerNo6
If I started listing all the entity names I don't like, I'm not sure what I'd be left with.
2015-10-15 28824, 2015
hawke1
Hmm. I'm only bothered by 'release group' really.
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CallerNo6
"recording" comes to mind. RG is pretty terrible.
2015-10-15 28819, 2015
hawke1
recording is OK for me, though maybe mix would be better.
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CallerNo6
in retrospect, yeah, I think so.
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hawke1
But at the time it wasn't clear that it should be a mix instead of a master.
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CallerNo6
it seems weird that a recording isn't the thing that results from a recording session.
2015-10-15 28811, 2015
hawke1
and even now it's kinda fuzzy.
2015-10-15 28834, 2015
hawke1
It's the thing that results from the most basic kind of recording session, at least.
2015-10-15 28833, 2015
hawke1
At least with RG I can't think of anything better.
2015-10-15 28859, 2015
hawke1
'album' is the obvious thing but RG covers all kinds of different things so that doesn't work.
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pankkake
RG = release. and then our releases get another name
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CallerNo6
yeah, "edition" or something
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hawke1
That would make a lot of sense.
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CallerNo6
of course, naming is hard. the music ontology has a few klunky terms too.
2015-10-15 28853, 2015
hawke1
though 'edition' usually isn't really great historically
2015-10-15 28815, 2015
hawke1
Now you get much more differentation like 'special edition' and so forth and they're generally pretty clean with different UPCs for everything
2015-10-15 28842, 2015
hawke1
I do kinda wish for some level between RG and release to take care of that, but it'd be terrible to use.
2015-10-15 28824, 2015
pankkake
I've thought of that too, but my idea would probably be hard to understand by non-programmmers
2015-10-15 28850, 2015
pankkake
you'd make a "base" release and you make actual releases inheriting data from it
2015-10-15 28827, 2015
pankkake
can be useful for releases where only the vinyl color changes, for example
2015-10-15 28819, 2015
hawke1
Yep. That's one of the kind of situations I was thinking of...
2015-10-15 28811, 2015
hawke1
But I mean even now people have a rough time understanding what an RG is, and MB itself seems to have a hard time displaying useful information about RGs (like, what songs were released on a given release)
2015-10-15 28805, 2015
hawke1
er, a given RG. ;-)
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CallerNo6
that's why I think of MB as editing-centric, not browsing-centric
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hawke1
yup.
2015-10-15 28849, 2015
hawke1
not surprising given that most people with an interest in working on MB are MB-editors. :-)
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hawke1
luks: Is AcoustID processing stuck?
2015-10-15 28810, 2015
hawke1
I submitted some new fingerprints and the AcoustIDs haven't shown up yet for an hour or so
