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      • CallerNo6
        +1 for "Coat of Arms" as the sort name.
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      • CallerNo6
        but, woah, back up. hibiscuskazeneko: abuse?
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        CallerNo6: Remember this? https://musicbrainz.org/edit/30023261
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        That is flagrant abuse of power
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      • oldtopman
        hibiscuskazeneko: Any idea where the 1830 time came from?
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        The same last.fm link, I think
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      • oldtopman
        Last.fm says " Wednesday 18 November 2015 at 7:00pm "
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      • oldtopman
        I have no idea where sydan is coming from.
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      • darwin
        maybe was at the show?
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        maybe
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        though I doubt it
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I was at another show on that tour and the door time was not published at all
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      • oldtopman
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      • darwin
        ticketing company or promoter or gtfo, imo, heh
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      • oldtopman
        ^
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I typically get event times from venue websites
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      • darwin
        sure, venue website ok too
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        (or, in rare cases, from the performing artist themselves)
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      • darwin
        artist also ok
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      • darwin
        official facebook post et.
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      • darwin
        how are set times handled within events
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      • darwin
        (he asks with trepidation...)
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        You can set a time for each artist
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I do that for festivals
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        (btw I was referring to http://www.trans-siberian.com/tour)
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      • oldtopman
        hibiscuskazeneko: Can you find me a start time besides on ln.fm?
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      • oldtopman
        last.fm*
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      • oldtopman
        I like start times more than door times, but I can't find anything at 1900 besides that random time on last.fm. The venue site has a doortime, is all.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        that's weird
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        the first act's start time is listed on https://www.facebook.com/events/1597669580497446/
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        that's confirmation to an extent
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      • oldtopman
        Ah, saint Asonia.
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      • darwin
        I love how events give us another level of obsesso detail lol
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        it lines up with the schedule pictures some of the members of Mötley Crüe posted on Twitter
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      • CallerNo6
        It's nice to know what order bands went on. It's nice to know if there were two sets in an evening. Beyond that, why do we have show times?
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      • oldtopman
        hibiscuskazeneko: Link to those?
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
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      • oldtopman
        On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to cross paths with an auto-moderator. Do they have moderator powers or anything?
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      • darwin
        they can see in infrared
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        They can't issue bans, if that's what you mean
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      • oldtopman
        hibiscuskazeneko: But that's for the 8th, right?
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      • oldtopman
        hibiscuskazeneko: Do they have any say in who becomes an auto-moderator?
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Right. That's for a previous show.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
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      • CallerNo6
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        In a way, yes. One of them nominates someone whom they want to include, and the others vote on it
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      • oldtopman
        ah shit, too late.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        what for?
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      • oldtopman
        not crossing automods :P
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I do it all the time
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        CallerNo6 is one
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      • darwin
        huh, I just came up with a good idea for a mb bot
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      • darwin
        it fills out releases groups with alternate versions from discogs...
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      • darwin
        as long as their tracklists etc. are identical
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      • darwin
        low hanging fruit, but would get tons of data
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        that would produce a LOT of clutter
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        it might even be worse than Likedis Auto in terms of data quality
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      • darwin
        disagree, because there are MANY alternative versions of cd singles and digital vs. vinyl
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        There are, but it would be better to add them manually
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      • darwin
        time vs. return
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        That way any inconsistencies can be picked up by hand
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Quality over quantity
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      • darwin
        what is the quality of a non-existing release, but sure :)
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      • oldtopman
        If someone cared, they would add it. Therefore, nobody cares about missing releases.
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I would rather add fewer releases with better data than more releases with patchy data
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        After what happened with Likedis Auto, never again.
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      • darwin
        I care about computers doing work they can do
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      • darwin
        so I can do the work that only humans can do
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      • darwin
        philosophically, as it were.
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      • darwin
        if you add duplicate relatons
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      • darwin
        it shouldn't make yuo click "x" lol
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      • darwin
        just delete it/reset it
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      • blup
        just discovered cat has a habit of sitting on the oven stove, now I wonder if that's why he had huge naked parts on the inside of his legs earliee - he'd burnt himself
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      • blup
        silly, you'd think he'd learn
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      • blup worried
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      • blup
        also i like the bupe discogs bot idea
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      • blup
        as long as that thing re-used recordings
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      • blup
        also for the 11thie time: autoeditors aren't *supposed* to be "special". hell I'm one
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      • blup
        but yea. i very much advocate the election for so and such years
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      • blup
        oldtopman, hibiscus, everybody ....who'd not here right now: "autoeditor" is about making edits go through faster, since they're "trusted" to do *good* edits. their voting ability. not so
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      • blup
        ahhh
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      • blup
        but yea what was said eralier
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      • blup
        Freso: classless systems!
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      • blup
        I'm becoming a marxist like my mother
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      • Freso
        blup: Down with class!
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      • Freso
        Nice.
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      • Freso
        I really don't get how yindesu was "clearly" abusive in that last edit hibiscuskazeneko linked. He even offers to revert put the edit to a vote: "But if you disagree strongly I can put that to a vote."
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      • Freso
        It is really one of the more civil hibiscuskazeneko/yindesu exchanges.
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      • darwin
        extreme language
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      • Freso
        darwin: What I wrote, or what's in the edit noteS?
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      • Freso
        *notes
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      • CatCat
        i guess she interprits it as mega-passive-agressive
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      • reosarevok
        hibiscuskazeneko: I commented there to make sure everyone who sees the edit knows there's discussion pending ;)
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      • reosarevok
        darwin: even if we don't add an actual bot, we should be better at showing "this artist has n releases not linked in discogs" or "this release group has x unlinked versions in discogs"
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      • reosarevok
        Maybe it could even have an option like "I've linked all existing versions in MB, import the rest" :)
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      • reosarevok
        Not full auto import, since someone says they've checked manually first, but still a big time saver
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      • blup
        hmn, what's about the start here https://musicbrainz.org/artist/022589ac-7177-460d… the wikipedia article directly contradicts the "born" area
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      • blup
        or else zanzibar == Tanzania?
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      • reosarevok
        Zanzibar=that kinked section of Tanzania
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      • reosarevok
        Er. Linked. No leather.
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      • blup
        oh reo
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      • blup
        hahahaha
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      • blup
        Freddy would laugh :D
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      • blup
        dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddeopr044444444444444444444444444444444rt
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      • reosarevok
        !m blup's kitty