apparently that last song plays during the final boss battle in the game campaign mode
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
I kinda liked the first and last song
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kepstin
I wonder if they're ever gonna publish an "official translation" of the song lyrics into japanese or english
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johtso
should you create a new arrangement work if the lyrics are slightly different from the "traditional" work?
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johtso
and would you add writer=[traditional] to the arrangement work as well as the original work?
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CallerNo6
johtso, IMO no. Part of (a lot of) "trad" is that it encourages new arrangements and adaptions.
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CallerNo6
er, I should have said "IMO *generally* no".
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CallerNo6
(so every performer would be creating a new work, which doesn't sound like what works are for)
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BeebleCat
:/
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BeebleCat is dumb
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BeebleCat
hi CallerNo6
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johtso
CallerNo6: I've seen other people say that you should create a new work if that version has multiple recordings
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johtso
so that you can put the arranger credits on a single work entity rather than repeating them on recordings
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reosarevok
That is what we do for classical arrangements, not sure if it's appropriate for trad since I don't edit trad. Freso? ^
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reosarevok
(well, I generally happily add them as long as they're published and I can find a score for purchase which ensure there *could* be further recordings, but that's kinda twisting the guideline a bit :p)
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chirlu`
reosarevok: Freso is supposed to give his review just now. ;-)
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reosarevok
I know, but he doesn't need to answer here right now :)
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CallerNo6
johtso, yeah, there's /some/ point where a new arrangement probably becomes significant enough to become a work.
As a trad editor, it's my experience that there usually aren't multiple recordings of an arrangement. At least in Irish music, and I suspect for a lot of trad, arrangements tend to be ad hoc.
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BeebleCat
cleat:
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BeebleCat
1 a T-shaped piece of metal or wood on a boat or ship, to which ropes are attached.
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BeebleCat
2 each of a number of projections on the sole of a shoe, designed to prevent the wearer losing their footing.
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BeebleCat
so yea.. i was like "wait wtf?
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CallerNo6
Maybe I should rethink my position. If a trad song is split into 20+ works, does it matter? Maybe that's more a question of presentation.
reosarevok, but then you have to select the right arrangement from a list of possibly dozens? Or do we have a catchall for each work (and hope that people choose the right one)?
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reosarevok
One of my classmates back in high school actually had that shirt
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CallerNo6 digs that shirt
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reosarevok
CallerNo6: IMO we could and possibly should have a way to select a work first and then the appropriate arrangement
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CallerNo6
word
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Freso
johtso: I take that on a case-by-case basis.
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BeebleCat
tho we're at different parts i the "lets jsut be equal dammit" race
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BeebleCat
when I was younger that'd be a grreat shirt to have. now? not so much
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BeebleCat
we've gotten far enough that that isn't funny (imo)
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CallerNo6 still likes little people hitting each other.
johtso, and I think a work like that makes sense. I was mostly just speaking to CallerNo6's "generally no".
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CallerNo6
wait, does "select a work first and then the arrangment" mean that there'd be a work-group? Or a catchall?
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reosarevok
Well we already have a "work-group"
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reosarevok
It's just the work all the arrangements are linked from :p
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CallerNo6
but are those the same thing? is the original, root work the same as a "group"?
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CallerNo6
nevermind, if I ask another question, tell me to go back to work.
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reosarevok
Well, it's not as such
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reosarevok
But it could already be used to filter, I guess
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reosarevok
If we wanted to
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reosarevok
Not ideal always, but probably fairly decent
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hawke
I see on transifex that there are both "track length" and "track duration" as glossary terms. Is there a difference or does MB use them interchangeably?
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hawke
(and 'track times' for that matter)
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chirlu`
I’d think it’s all the same. There is quite a bit of inconsistency in those strings.
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hawke
Anything to be done about it (that won't make a lot of work for someone)?
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chirlu`
Well, make a pull request to make the strings consistent. However, that means that the translated versions will have to be adapted.
