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      • CatQuest
        once I am actually going to go trought electronic isntruemnts I wil lsee if there is any warrant ot adding any of these as actualy instruemnts instead (ie "Moog")
      • 2020-07-10 19254, 2020

      • CatQuest
        haha ther is an instrument credit as UTAU from before :D
      • 2020-07-10 19240, 2020

      • CatQuest
        fairly few, only on one page, so i cna see a few "search hint" ones i cna add again.
      • 2020-07-10 19252, 2020

      • CatQuest
        i'll asl oadd those aliases for mthe wikidata entry
      • 2020-07-10 19202, 2020

      • CatQuest
        this shoudl hlep peopel finding this easier atleast :)
      • 2020-07-10 19213, 2020

      • CatQuest
        oh! wait is "Autotune" too?
      • 2020-07-10 19226, 2020

      • CatQuest
        :hmm: i wonder if https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11338907 is a better fit for us actually
      • 2020-07-10 19233, 2020

      • CatQuest
        there is athe two components : software and actual synthesizer
      • 2020-07-10 19257, 2020

      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        speech synthesis is more an abstrack wikidata item : think
      • 2020-07-10 19255, 2020

      • CatQuest
        ie "speech-generating device" *uses* it
      • 2020-07-10 19236, 2020

      • CatQuest
        but hell why not both :D
      • 2020-07-10 19211, 2020

      • CatQuest
        (reosarevok, your imput on this tomorrow woudl be valued :D)
      • 2020-07-10 19217, 2020

      • CatQuest goes for food
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Ok, wall of text is too wally, what exactly should I answer :D
      • 2020-07-10 19241, 2020

      • kepstin
        note that many of the uses of voice synthesizers in music are actually the talking ones, not singing ones - e.g. there are a lot of songs with samples of the old macintosh speaking voice
      • 2020-07-10 19251, 2020

      • CatQuest
        oh no.
      • 2020-07-10 19245, 2020

      • CatQuest
        well first was the thing aobut why we don't have the abiity for labels to have some more "artist-like" relationships
      • 2020-07-10 19205, 2020

      • CatQuest
        (so we have some stuff that is entered as both a label and an artist becasue artist cant have such and so role)
      • 2020-07-10 19210, 2020

      • CatQuest
        erh label can't have*
      • 2020-07-10 19202, 2020

      • CatQuest
        the other was which wikidata item of the mentioned ones would be best to use for our "vspeech synth" "instrument"
      • 2020-07-10 19212, 2020

      • CatQuest
        (also, in what order is vocoder and voice-synth related)
      • 2020-07-10 19251, 2020

      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: ˆ
      • 2020-07-10 19253, 2020

      • CatQuest
        eh
      • 2020-07-10 19258, 2020

      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: ^
      • 2020-07-10 19209, 2020

      • reosarevok
        We could have those, if requested properly
      • 2020-07-10 19215, 2020

      • CatQuest
        whoo
      • 2020-07-10 19228, 2020

      • reosarevok
        I mean, hopefully not "label played violin"
      • 2020-07-10 19233, 2020

      • reosarevok
        But maybe "label produced" or whatnot
      • 2020-07-10 19233, 2020

      • CatQuest
        uh. lol
      • 2020-07-10 19244, 2020

      • CatQuest
        kepstin knowsa bit more
      • 2020-07-10 19207, 2020

      • CatQuest
        this case was.... mastering
      • 2020-07-10 19218, 2020

      • CatQuest
        label doing mastering seems logicla to me.. but
      • 2020-07-10 19237, 2020

      • rooke
        If a solo artist switched from releasing music under their first name to under their family name should those be considered distinct artists?
      • 2020-07-10 19250, 2020

      • rooke
        Oh... he didn't switch he releases music under both
      • 2020-07-10 19252, 2020

      • CatQuest
        rooke: i guess only if the msuic is like a differnt thing
      • 2020-07-10 19207, 2020

      • CatQuest
        if those are different "musicla *things*
      • 2020-07-10 19222, 2020

      • rooke
        They... sound like the same style to me
      • 2020-07-10 19238, 2020

      • rooke
        hmm
      • 2020-07-10 19241, 2020

      • CatQuest
        and you say that he rereleased the odl albums in the new name or?
      • 2020-07-10 19259, 2020

      • reosarevok
        label doing production-engineering makes more sense than performance, is my point
      • 2020-07-10 19201, 2020

      • CatQuest
        or are the musical releases always spearated
      • 2020-07-10 19205, 2020

      • reosarevok
        rooke: link? :)
      • 2020-07-10 19217, 2020

      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: well obviously
      • 2020-07-10 19231, 2020

      • CatQuest
        I think that was the exact point here?
      • 2020-07-10 19240, 2020

      • CatQuest
        who said performance? :P
      • 2020-07-10 19256, 2020

      • rooke
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      • rooke
        reosarevok ^
      • 2020-07-10 19205, 2020

      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: just making sure :)
      • 2020-07-10 19233, 2020

      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: remember you're talking to this cat who is annoyed at that stuff just like you ;)
      • 2020-07-10 19248, 2020

      • reosarevok
        rooke: so the person's name is Ichika Nito?
      • 2020-07-10 19207, 2020

      • rooke
        yeah
      • 2020-07-10 19210, 2020

      • CatQuest
        are both releasing at the same time?
      • 2020-07-10 19215, 2020

      • CatQuest
        i mena both bandcmap things
      • 2020-07-10 19220, 2020

      • rooke
        There has been overlap
      • 2020-07-10 19225, 2020

      • CatQuest
        hmm
      • 2020-07-10 19235, 2020

      • CatQuest
        maybe yo ucna conntac thme and aks what is theri intent
      • 2020-07-10 19250, 2020

      • rooke
        I might try that
      • 2020-07-10 19250, 2020

      • CatQuest
        maybe you can contact thme and ask what is their intent
      • 2020-07-10 19254, 2020

      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2020-07-10 19205, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I was going to suggest just asking
      • 2020-07-10 19216, 2020

      • reosarevok
        They seem pretty active in social media, so they might answer
      • 2020-07-10 19230, 2020

      • rooke
        Anything released by ichika has a copy right by these guys: http://www.ta-wa-ra.com/
      • 2020-07-10 19232, 2020

      • CatQuest
        fwiw https://ichika.bandcamp.com/ seems to have a kidna theme with the cover arts so may be a separate project
      • 2020-07-10 19206, 2020

      • rooke
        yeah then theres a third bandcamp with a single album for some reason too lol
      • 2020-07-10 19212, 2020

      • CatQuest
        oh no.
      • 2020-07-10 19217, 2020

      • rooke
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      • CatQuest
        i'd say ask them :)
      • 2020-07-10 19222, 2020

      • rooke
        weee
      • 2020-07-10 19235, 2020

      • rooke
        for sure I'll do that
      • 2020-07-10 19245, 2020

      • CatQuest
        👍 keep us posted :D
      • 2020-07-10 19250, 2020

      • CatQuest is somewhat curious now
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      • CatQuest
        but I really must go make food i am soo hungry :D
      • 2020-07-10 19249, 2020

      • rooke
        My gut feels like the move is to change the ichika entry on musicbrainz to "inchika nito" then just all make them the same... especially cause whenever he's featured its as ichika buuuut I do not know
      • 2020-07-10 19257, 2020

      • rooke
        I thought you left for food ages ago bud
      • 2020-07-10 19247, 2020

      • CatQuest
        dinner akes a bit longer ot make than that ;)
      • 2020-07-10 19250, 2020

      • CatQuest
        now i go <-
      • 2020-07-10 19216, 2020

      • rooke
        So the deciding factor is if he considers these different musical projects?
      • 2020-07-10 19250, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Pretty much
      • 2020-07-10 19202, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Like, would he consider them all part of the same discography?
      • 2020-07-10 19210, 2020

      • rooke
        Why can't everything be as clear cut as snoop dogg vs snoop lion ;_;
      • 2020-07-10 19213, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Or are some "Nito singles" and some "Ichika singles"
      • 2020-07-10 19249, 2020

      • kepstin
        so i guess the mastering question comes down to - is https://www.cloudbounce.com/ a mastering engineer, or is it mastering software and the person who uploads the track to it is the mastering engineer? :)
      • 2020-07-10 19200, 2020

      • rooke
        If they are disjoint then the move is to create two distinct artists but link them to a person entry?
      • 2020-07-10 19242, 2020

      • chaban
        One of the times were MBS-4753 comes in handy is when cover uploads get cancelled/downvoted even though there was nothing wrong with them.
      • 2020-07-10 19243, 2020

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-4753: Cancelled/removed cover art does not get deleted from IA servers https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-4753
      • 2020-07-10 19219, 2020

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      • CatQuest
        chaban: indeed. and I also have a jesus' script that links to these things in the edit itself. very handy (and a reason I don't want 4753 "fixed")
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      • chaban
        This editor would surely fancy some votes: https://musicbrainz.org/user/redflaregraf
      • 2020-07-10 19256, 2020

      • chaban
        They messed up soundtrack recording-work relationships, e.g. https://musicbrainz.org/edit/71273621
      • 2020-07-10 19213, 2020

      • chaban
        Batch approving work disambiguation stuff. You don't need to vote on those :)
      • 2020-07-10 19203, 2020

      • CatQuest
        :/ I'm not sure iagree with this
      • 2020-07-10 19204, 2020

      • CatQuest
        "John Williams' soundtrack for Star Wars, Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back is set to "Soundtrack", but the Imperial March should not be, since it's not itself a soundtrack, just part of one."
      • 2020-07-10 19213, 2020

      • CatQuest
        was it yindesu?
      • 2020-07-10 19222, 2020

      • CatQuest
        what says reosarevok out stylesloth?
      • 2020-07-10 19245, 2020

      • reosarevok
        It's absolutely correct
      • 2020-07-10 19210, 2020

      • reosarevok
        Calling that a soundtrack is like calling a song from an opera an opera
      • 2020-07-10 19223, 2020

      • reosarevok
        I mean, sure, the word has some relation to this specific piece, but that's not what it is
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      • reosarevok
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      • CatQuest
        but what the hell is it then?
      • 2020-07-10 19240, 2020

      • CatQuest
        well iguess "march" :P
      • 2020-07-10 19241, 2020

      • CatQuest
        but still
      • 2020-07-10 19227, 2020

      • chaban
        I've seen people doing this so often: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/71250707 I'm going crazy.
      • 2020-07-10 19249, 2020

      • CatQuest
        huuuh? won't the recordings just get the new durations?
      • 2020-07-10 19245, 2020

      • CatQuest
        vinxi wasa good newbie though. very well explained the issue 👍
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