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      • reosarevok
        Half of the internet doesn't know how to return a "yes, I'm broken" response
      • 2013-11-01 30528, 2013

      • daveh
        anything but a 200
      • 2013-11-01 30537, 2013

      • daveh
        depending on internet weather
      • 2013-11-01 30552, 2013

      • daveh
        which table are the links in?
      • 2013-11-01 30505, 2013

      • daveh
        (asked twice now, I know, I'll write it down this time)
      • 2013-11-01 30508, 2013

      • Jozo
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      • reosarevok
        Assuming every single redirect is broken? :p
      • 2013-11-01 30541, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (most aren't)
      • 2013-11-01 30507, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: hahaha, yeah, I can see that getting messy :)
      • 2013-11-01 30520, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (but hey, maybe someone will once buy it from Zimbabwe)
      • 2013-11-01 30545, 2013

      • daveh
        reosarevok, the chain ends in a 200 as fas as LWP::Simple goes
      • 2013-11-01 30537, 2013

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      • daveh
        so yes, links to the amazon artists pages
      • 2013-11-01 30520, 2013

      • simukis_
        uhmm… if the album title is in Japanese, should annotation be japanese too?
      • 2013-11-01 30533, 2013

      • simukis_
        s/annotation/disambiguation/
      • 2013-11-01 30520, 2013

      • nikki
        for things like limited edition, normal edition, etc, I tend to use whatever the official sites use for it, which tends to be in japanese
      • 2013-11-01 30544, 2013

      • simukis_
        Ok…
      • 2013-11-01 30548, 2013

      • nikki
        (and I know I'm not the only one)
      • 2013-11-01 30524, 2013

      • nikki
        right now I could really do with the ability to downvote tags
      • 2013-11-01 30542, 2013

      • simukis_
        Now what I really wonder about is whether https://musicbrainz.org/release/41a6873a-6759-4b6… should be disambiguated (tl. Normal)
      • 2013-11-01 30524, 2013

      • nikki
        I include it
      • 2013-11-01 30559, 2013

      • simukis_
        imo it is superflous.
      • 2013-11-01 30511, 2013

      • simukis_
        fluous*
      • 2013-11-01 30525, 2013

      • nikki
        I disagree, how do you know it's the normal edition and not some non-normal one which just hasn't been marked properly?
      • 2013-11-01 30532, 2013

      • simukis_
        well, how'd you know that non-properly marked one is not the same normal but a duplicate, for example?
      • 2013-11-01 30548, 2013

      • nikki
        er?
      • 2013-11-01 30512, 2013

      • simukis_
        s/is not the/is the/
      • 2013-11-01 30516, 2013

      • simukis_
        ugh.
      • 2013-11-01 30533, 2013

      • nikki
        I still don't understand what you mean :/
      • 2013-11-01 30500, 2013

      • simukis_
        Well, I'd usually asume that the release which is not disambiguated is the normal-est one hence not some special release. Therefore, by looking at the list of releases which includes a non-disambiguated release, and yet another release which is disambiguated as Normal… I would want to either merge those (if they are dupes) or disambiguate the non-disambiguated one and remove disambiguation from the normal release.
      • 2013-11-01 30527, 2013

      • nikki
        we shouldn't have to make assumptions though
      • 2013-11-01 30555, 2013

      • simukis_ finished uploading covers and booklet scans for albums in that specific release group. He's now going to hide back into his cave.
      • 2013-11-01 30556, 2013

      • hawke_
        I don’t understand how you can classify a single release as “normal” in most cases
      • 2013-11-01 30511, 2013

      • hawke_
        given how many albums have been reissued over the years, all of them are “normal”
      • 2013-11-01 30520, 2013

      • nikki
        if you have "ltd A", "ltd B" and no comment, you cannot know without doing research whether the no comment one is "ltd C" or "normal"
      • 2013-11-01 30516, 2013

      • simukis_
        I got urge to create a meme image with “Disambiguate all the releases” subtitle…
      • 2013-11-01 30558, 2013

      • nikki
        hawke_: it's not really to do with reissuing, it's to do with multiple editions released on the same day
      • 2013-11-01 30506, 2013

      • nikki
        which japan is apparently obsessed with :P
      • 2013-11-01 30525, 2013

      • nikki
        I've forgotten how many editions is the most I've found so far, but it's definitely in double figures
      • 2013-11-01 30517, 2013

      • nikki
        ah, https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release-group/4c77f2… has 11. might be that, or there might be another with more.
      • 2013-11-01 30550, 2013

      • simukis_
        WWWWWWWWW
      • 2013-11-01 30511, 2013

      • derwin
        MMMMMMMMM
      • 2013-11-01 30516, 2013

      • hawke_
        \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
      • 2013-11-01 30531, 2013

      • nikki
        o_O
      • 2013-11-01 30514, 2013

      • reosarevok
        You surely meant o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
      • 2013-11-01 30513, 2013

      • daveh
        =^.^=
      • 2013-11-01 30501, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Huh. I could've sworn I added rob [at mb] to the CC for that mail.
      • 2013-11-01 30526, 2013

      • Freso
        Ah well.
      • 2013-11-01 30516, 2013

      • reosarevok
        You'd swear wrongly :)
      • 2013-11-01 30523, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But whatever, stuff happens :)
      • 2013-11-01 30533, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If you feel like stealing the ticket from me and doing it, feel free
      • 2013-11-01 30541, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If not I'll get to it later today or tomorrow I expect
      • 2013-11-01 30552, 2013

      • reosarevok is fixing bad classical adds for now
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      • Freso
        Yeah. It's just that I recall actively adding rob@ and setting him to CC for that mail.
      • 2013-11-01 30517, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (instead of fixing bad classical ads, which would be much funnier)
      • 2013-11-01 30534, 2013

      • Freso
        Maybe I hit BCC and it got buried in Rob's inbox? Maybe Thunderbird messed up? Maybe something else happen? We'll never know.
      • 2013-11-01 30551, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Maybe you accidentally a whole platypus!
      • 2013-11-01 30509, 2013

      • Freso
        No, I *did* CC him!
      • 2013-11-01 30526, 2013

      • Freso
        That's the headers from the mail in my "outbox".
      • 2013-11-01 30556, 2013

      • Freso
        Maybe the CC headers get stripped from the forum software?
      • 2013-11-01 30505, 2013

      • Freso
        s/forum/mailing list/
      • 2013-11-01 30509, 2013

      • Freso
        s/from/by/
      • 2013-11-01 30531, 2013

      • Freso
        So I wouldn't be swearing wrong. :)
      • 2013-11-01 30550, 2013

      • nikki
        maybe you faked the headers just now!
      • 2013-11-01 30538, 2013

      • Freso
        Yeah, because I've never admitted to be in the wrong before...
      • 2013-11-01 30510, 2013

      • reosarevok
        :D
      • 2013-11-01 30514, 2013

      • nikki
        well you have to admit it sometimes, or people get suspicious :P
      • 2013-11-01 30516, 2013

      • reosarevok shrugs
      • 2013-11-01 30524, 2013

      • nikki is just teasing, you know :P
      • 2013-11-01 30531, 2013

      • reosarevok
        The mail that reached me didn't seem to include it, but who knows, heh
      • 2013-11-01 30535, 2013

      • Freso
        Nooo. :o
      • 2013-11-01 30544, 2013

      • Freso would've never had guessed!
      • 2013-11-01 30555, 2013

      • reosarevok
        After that time when kuno somehow managed to accidentally post as me, I believe anything from our lists :p
      • 2013-11-01 30522, 2013

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      • Freso
        reosarevok: Like I said, the mailing list software probably strips out the CC from the mail headers. Since you don't read the rob [at mb] inbox (or, do you..?) it's unlikely that you will see it. I also didn't see the CC header in the mail I received back from the mail list, but I didn't check for it before now.
      • 2013-11-01 30532, 2013

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      • bricas
        if a live version of a track is listed under a different name because it has a different arrangement, the recording is still just a "live" version of the work?
      • 2013-11-01 30551, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        bricas, unless the arrangement has been deemed a separate work, which is more common in classical.
      • 2013-11-01 30523, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        ... and related to that, if the arrangement is considered a new work, the work-arranger AR is used. if not, the recording-arranger AR is used.
      • 2013-11-01 30536, 2013

      • bricas
        CallerNo6: hrmm. this isn't classical, fwiw.
      • 2013-11-01 30511, 2013

      • bricas
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      • bricas
        the former is a live version
      • 2013-11-01 30542, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Heh
      • 2013-11-01 30508, 2013

      • reosarevok
        NIN are "special" in that they have what usually would be the same work separated quite often
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        *ISWCs
      • 2013-11-01 30542, 2013

      • CallerNo6 wouldn't create a new work unless the new arrangement has lyrics/composition credits that don't apply to the original.
      • 2013-11-01 30558, 2013

      • reosarevok
        So, I *might* add a new "later version" work, but I might also not do it - unsure
      • 2013-11-01 30510, 2013

      • CallerNo6 also wouldn't vote "no" if somebody who knows more about this specific case /did/ create a new work.
      • 2013-11-01 30518, 2013

      • bricas
        AFAIK it's only been performed live, btw.
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      • nikki
        Freso: you wanted to +1 that part-of thing, right? :P
      • 2013-11-01 30549, 2013

      • Freso
        nikki: No?
      • 2013-11-01 30506, 2013

      • nikki
        hehe
      • 2013-11-01 30515, 2013

      • Freso
        ;)
      • 2013-11-01 30546, 2013

      • Freso had already sent his +1 for it :p
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      • nikki
        it didn't arrive here until two minutes after I asked
      • 2013-11-01 30512, 2013

      • Freso
        I think you asked as I sent it.
      • 2013-11-01 30550, 2013

      • Freso
        So by the time I checked back here, it was already off in the cyberwebs.
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      • ListMyCDs
        reosarevok: thanks for adding "has primary concert venue at"-relationship
      • 2013-11-01 30546, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Heh, the actual adding was nikki :)
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      • nikki whistles innocently
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      • ListMyCDs
        well thanks to both of you then
      • 2013-11-01 30538, 2013

      • reosarevok
        np :)
      • 2013-11-01 30514, 2013

      • xandora
        So... What label is this album on? o.O -> "2013 Lindseystomp Music LLC, under exclusive licence to Decca Records a division of Universal Music Operations Limited"
      • 2013-11-01 30546, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Decca
      • 2013-11-01 30520, 2013

      • reosarevok
        And you can add a "licensor" relationship to Lindseystomp Music LLC
      • 2013-11-01 30524, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (I think :) )
      • 2013-11-01 30519, 2013

      • xandora
        ...it's 8:20am here. I think that'll go in the 'too hard, do later' pile
      • 2013-11-01 30527, 2013

      • Freso
        xandora: Congratulations! It is now later. Time to get it done! :D
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      • CallerNo6
        ACs broken on beta?
      • 2013-11-01 30545, 2013

      • CallerNo6 looks for a ticket
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      • CallerNo6
        (not "broken" broken, but displaying w/out join phrase)
      • 2013-11-01 30528, 2013

      • nikki
        where?
      • 2013-11-01 30515, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        in the tracklist
      • 2013-11-01 30539, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        in the editor, it looks fine, but on the release page it's just two artists munged together.
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      • CallerNo6
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      • nikki
        ah
      • 2013-11-01 30514, 2013

      • nikki
        can you create a ticket for that?
      • 2013-11-01 30528, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        I'll put my whole mind to it.
      • 2013-11-01 30501, 2013

      • Freso
        CallerNo6: So.. is that a yes or a no?
      • 2013-11-01 30522, 2013

      • CallerNo6 will make a ticket :-)
      • 2013-11-01 30551, 2013

      • Freso
        ;)
      • 2013-11-01 30554, 2013

      • nikki
        thanks
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      • CallerNo6
        oh, do tickets for beta go under MBS? I guess I've never done one.
      • 2013-11-01 30542, 2013

      • CallerNo6 does a quick search, concludes "yes"
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • 2013-11-01 30548, 2013

      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6: fix version beta, or component beta, or dunno how that was
      • 2013-11-01 30550, 2013

      • reosarevok
        nikki, how was it?
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      • CallerNo6
        oh, "affects versions: beta" I guess?
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