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      • Mineo
        now if only set cover art edits for release group wouldn't look so stupid :(
      • 2013-05-24 14444, 2013

      • jesus2099
        missing the AFTER→BEFORE point of view, Mineo ?
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • jesus2099
        or rather BEFORE→AFTER
      • 2013-05-24 14410, 2013

      • jesus2099
        :)
      • 2013-05-24 14440, 2013

      • Mineo
        no, they show the cover in a small 125x125px box
      • 2013-05-24 14447, 2013

      • jesus2099
        I found an RG in which the RGCAA algorithm didn’t select the earliest available release
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • jesus2099
        Mineo: oh I haven’t notice that… probably I didn’t mind…
      • 2013-05-24 14401, 2013

      • jesus2099
        because i will always need to see the whole picture anyway (hovering mouse with shift pressed shows me that)
      • 2013-05-24 14416, 2013

      • jesus2099
        i rather miss before→after but can live withotu it
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

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      • mat_
        hum, those two http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/d08d8cd7-c05… and http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/958b58e8-4e5… contain the same bootleg release, which one should I, hum, merge the other into ?
      • 2013-05-24 14449, 2013

      • mat_
        I would use the one with the date and place, but I'd rather ask :-)
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      • derwin
        mat_ ppl will answer.
      • 2013-05-24 14442, 2013

      • jesus2099
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      • jesus2099
        mat_: ↗
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but if the other RG has the correct title i would target the correct title :)
      • 2013-05-24 14432, 2013

      • jesus2099
        the non-bootleg I mean
      • 2013-05-24 14439, 2013

      • mat_
        jesus2099, well, they're both bootlegs
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      • jesus2099
        but one has an official title
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • jesus2099
        the other is just a made up title
      • 2013-05-24 14406, 2013

      • mat_
        they're the exact same soundboard extracted thingies
      • 2013-05-24 14457, 2013

      • mat_
        wondering if there's an easy way to merge the 2*25 recordings automagically, or if I have to do it one by one
      • 2013-05-24 14441, 2013

      • mat_
        Oh, yes, I seem to have a "mass merge recording" at the top of the right column
      • 2013-05-24 14412, 2013

      • jesus2099
        mat_: mass merger
      • 2013-05-24 14423, 2013

      • jesus2099
        yes that :)
      • 2013-05-24 14440, 2013

      • jesus2099
        (i hadn’t read your second line yet)
      • 2013-05-24 14454, 2013

      • mat_
        never used it before, looks like a great thing :-)
      • 2013-05-24 14417, 2013

      • mat_
        with nice colors and all :-)
      • 2013-05-24 14427, 2013

      • jesus2099
        if you don’t use Opera, it will pause merging if you don’t let this tab active
      • 2013-05-24 14444, 2013

      • jesus2099
        it’s the most outstanding known glitch
      • 2013-05-24 14457, 2013

      • jesus2099
        (of course nice colours!) ;D
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • mat_
        who uses Opera, I wonder :-)
      • 2013-05-24 14411, 2013

      • SultS_
        hawke_: about your track numbering proposal… did you see that I found it impossible to completely remove track numbering?
      • 2013-05-24 14435, 2013

      • mat_
        ok, I'll have a lot of cleanup to do after that's done
      • 2013-05-24 14418, 2013

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      • Jozo
        502, 500
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      • Lotheric_
        Is the site slow for anyone else ? 502s 500s, etc.
      • 2013-05-24 14407, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        we're switching to readonly for a quick update, possibly related
      • 2013-05-24 14414, 2013

      • Lotheric_
        ok
      • 2013-05-24 14443, 2013

      • Krystof
        looks like I picked a bad time to give up not adding releases to musicbrainz
      • 2013-05-24 14458, 2013

      • jesus2099
        uh oh 500 ISE in the middle of 2 long release editor sessions :C
      • 2013-05-24 14417, 2013

      • jesus2099
        omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • Jozo
        Internal Server Error
      • 2013-05-24 14427, 2013

      • hawke_1 is stopped for a 502
      • 2013-05-24 14436, 2013

      • Jozo
        DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: cannot execute SELECT FOR UPDATE in a read-only transaction at lib/Sql.pm line 107, line 3.
      • 2013-05-24 14411, 2013

      • jesus2099 TEARS HAIR OUT
      • 2013-05-24 14414, 2013

      • warp
        yep, we're doing the upgrade. wait a bit with editing, it should be back in a few minutes.
      • 2013-05-24 14445, 2013

      • hawke_1
        I can’t load stuff either…
      • 2013-05-24 14446, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ah you think my session will be bax… ok, why not dreaming for a bit… ;)
      • 2013-05-24 14454, 2013

      • Jozo
        nikki: Do you have found some source for cities? I tried find source for Finnish cities, but every source has some cc-by like license... :/
      • 2013-05-24 14409, 2013

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      • warp
        jesus2099: with a bit of luck, yes. we're certainly not deleting any sessions on our side.
      • 2013-05-24 14446, 2013

      • jesus2099
        warp: a banner on all pages announcing upcoming reboots maybe cool… (thus we wouldn’t start long stuff) ;)
      • 2013-05-24 14411, 2013

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      • warp
        jesus2099: I agree. is there a ticket for that we can all vote on? :)
      • 2013-05-24 14431, 2013

      • Lotheric
        jesus2099: good idea jesus
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

      • jesus2099
        nikki might know if such a ticket exix or not :)
      • 2013-05-24 14403, 2013

      • jesus2099
        i’m really crap at searching jira
      • 2013-05-24 14404, 2013

      • Jozo
        jesus2099: +1 (I said same on schema change day)
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • Lotheric
        or making the edit button non clicky with an info box
      • 2013-05-24 14448, 2013

      • culinko
        jesus2099: i tested the script and it appears it's not working on multipage recordings: http://musicbrainz.org/recording/79edb744-b545-42… for example
      • 2013-05-24 14449, 2013

      • jesus2099
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      • Jozo
        most of userscripts do not work anymore after tampermonkey upgrade :/
      • 2013-05-24 14410, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: what script?
      • 2013-05-24 14418, 2013

      • culinko
        jesus2099: inline track artist
      • 2013-05-24 14422, 2013

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      • jesus2099
        ah, that’s most probable if i forgot a star or two, let me chaeck that… ;à
      • 2013-05-24 14437, 2013

      • Jozo
        jesus2099: Can you check Youn Sun Nah - Lento album relations... (I have album in hand, but library cutted sleeve and everything...)
      • 2013-05-24 14441, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: fixed, btw your example recording doesn’t seem to need the script :)
      • 2013-05-24 14451, 2013

      • culinko
        yeah, i know:)
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • peaveyman
        Getting internal server error trying to add cover art
      • 2013-05-24 14444, 2013

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      • culinko
        also if you autoedit the tracklist, the script still compares it to old values and if you autoedit a recording, the script stops working on that particular recording. but i guess it's because the db isn't updated for the search it uses, so it's ok
      • 2013-05-24 14438, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: oh crap… that could need to use the lookup webservice instead of search…
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

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      • jesus2099
        you can try to uncomment the lookup line in the userjs and you have to remove the "recording-list > " from the start of the querySelectorAll ☞ this way you will be using the lookup web service instad of search……
      • 2013-05-24 14446, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but it will display track artists ALWAYS, even if not different
      • 2013-05-24 14457, 2013

      • jesus2099
        do you have an example? culinko ↗
      • 2013-05-24 14420, 2013

      • Lotheric
        peaveyman: There's a quickfix being applied and the server is now read-only
      • 2013-05-24 14436, 2013

      • culinko
        jesus2099: do i have an example of what?
      • 2013-05-24 14455, 2013

      • jesus2099
        warp + Lotheric + Jozo : i see only one +1 on http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-6402 ;P
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      • Lotheric
        jesus2099: That's my +
      • 2013-05-24 14412, 2013

      • jesus2099
        an example of your autoedit that leads to temporary delay in the script because of search
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • jesus2099
        yay Lotheric
      • 2013-05-24 14425, 2013

      • Jozo
        I pre-ordered some album last autumn... and last evening I wondered if it released some day... And today mail came me it :)
      • 2013-05-24 14426, 2013

      • Lotheric
        \ o /
      • 2013-05-24 14459, 2013

      • culinko
        well, i did some autoedits, but i think the db updated after that, let me check
      • 2013-05-24 14427, 2013

      • culinko needs to find a recording with one of the tracks having bad capitalization:)
      • 2013-05-24 14431, 2013

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      • culinko
        ha, found it
      • 2013-05-24 14425, 2013

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      • culinko
        damn, the server is read-only:)
      • 2013-05-24 14414, 2013

      • culinko
        jesus2099: btw. the new version of the script is still not highlighting the tracks and durations on that recording i posted
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • culinko
        so i guess you forgot something:)
      • 2013-05-24 14427, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: i think MBS doesn’t work right now
      • 2013-05-24 14445, 2013

      • jesus2099
        so maybe the search neither
      • 2013-05-24 14449, 2013

      • culinko
        yeah, getting 502s. i'll try that later
      • 2013-05-24 14400, 2013

      • culinko
        gonna go afk a bit now
      • 2013-05-24 14440, 2013

      • Jozo
        nikki: If you do not found any useful source for cities yet.... I can at least ask some cc0 data for Finland
      • 2013-05-24 14437, 2013

      • jesus2099
        warp: MBS is back (?) but not my (long) release editor session
      • 2013-05-24 14406, 2013

      • warp
        jesus2099: sorry :(
      • 2013-05-24 14423, 2013

      • warp
        jesus2099: I don't know exactly when browsers throw away data. we certainly didn't remove the session on the server.
      • 2013-05-24 14458, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ok i’ve remade edits soon so MY memory at least was still there ;)
      • 2013-05-24 14439, 2013

      • Lotheric
        jesus2099: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/20c6e313-e93d-4972-… represent Seine-Saint-Denis! haha
      • 2013-05-24 14423, 2013

      • jesus2099
        haha :D
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      • jesus2099
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      • Lotheric
        We need a guideline for areas
      • 2013-05-24 14428, 2013

      • Lotheric
        Some will use it for hometown, others for area where the artist is active
      • 2013-05-24 14454, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, we have the guideline for the country
      • 2013-05-24 14400, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Which hasn't really changed
      • 2013-05-24 14429, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (use birth place unless predominantly active elsewhere)
      • 2013-05-24 14443, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Now, what level to use is dubious
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      • Lotheric
        but now we have "born in" areas
      • 2013-05-24 14410, 2013

      • jesus2099
        city for birth but country for artist area seems cool at first thought
      • 2013-05-24 14413, 2013

      • jesus2099
        thaught
      • 2013-05-24 14413, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Of course, given that Area only exists for artists because we didn't know what to migrate it to to remove it, maybe the right thing is to just remove it :p
      • 2013-05-24 14429, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I'm generally sticking to country for Area for now, but yeah, it'd be good to decide
      • 2013-05-24 14459, 2013

      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: NG to remove because artist born in A but left at 3 days old to live in B and active in B should have B somewhere
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • reosarevok
        sure
      • 2013-05-24 14429, 2013

      • reosarevok
        That's why we can't remove it yet, we'd need to decide how to indicate "active in" stuff first I guess
      • 2013-05-24 14432, 2013

      • Lotheric
        See? We need a new guideline :)
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, we need (a) new relationship(s)
      • 2013-05-24 14403, 2013

      • Lotheric
        perhaps
      • 2013-05-24 14403, 2013

      • reosarevok
        We just didn't know which ones :)
      • 2013-05-24 14416, 2013

      • jesus2099
        or just rename that unnamed country as ACTIVE IN and allow several countrioes
      • 2013-05-24 14419, 2013

      • jesus2099
        places
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • jesus2099
        areas
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      • reosarevok
        Active in with areas and dates sounds like a relationship to me :)
      • 2013-05-24 14401, 2013

      • reosarevok
        The problem there is how to define active in
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Is it the place where they live? Where they release music? City or country?
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      • jesus2099
        it’s whatever seems logical to the editor
      • 2013-05-24 14439, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ;)
      • 2013-05-24 14452, 2013

      • Lotheric
        born in / died in / active in ~country ~area / hometown ~where the artists is based in, working from
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • Lotheric
        It would be better I think
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      • jesus2099
        it seems now CAA picture don’t display AT ALL before the thumbnails are generated
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • jesus2099
        before, it was displaying the original as fallback
      • 2013-05-24 14420, 2013

      • reosarevok
        yeah
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • reosarevok
        People didn't want to load 5MB each time they loaded a page
      • 2013-05-24 14444, 2013

      • Lotheric
        reosarevok: possible to add Alexandria as an alias ? http://musicbrainz.org/area/90b2e91a-e0f4-4284-89…
      • 2013-05-24 14412, 2013

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: only 5MB? for cover art page with a lot of art, it was a heck of a lot more than that.
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      • Jozo
        Is is more painful import cities if we now decide that some users can add cities?
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      • humhumxx