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      • Jozo
        humhumxx: They vote others edits. (I just assume they all are friends)
      • 2013-05-24 14409, 2013

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      • humhumxx
        the votes come in in just three minutes
      • 2013-05-24 14449, 2013

      • humhumxx
      • 2013-05-24 14428, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Lotheric: heh, it's possible indeed
      • 2013-05-24 14431, 2013

      • Jozo
        humhumxx: If you see similar on other edits...
      • 2013-05-24 14448, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Lotheric: although I expect we'll have to just use English as default for those
      • 2013-05-24 14424, 2013

      • Lotheric
        thanks
      • 2013-05-24 14439, 2013

      • Jozo
        humhumxx: I remember that commander.atvar voted some my edits. And I voted some his edits..
      • 2013-05-24 14426, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: first cities should be coming soon (soon as in today or tomorrow I think, although it depends on whether nikki has the time). And most of the needed data is in Wikipedia anyway, it's just unwieldy, so we need to extract it first :/
      • 2013-05-24 14443, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (the city info that will come first is what was already decently entered into wikidata)
      • 2013-05-24 14457, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Isn't wikipedia data cc-by?
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • reosarevok
        yes, but wikidata is cc0
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • humhumxx
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      • culinko
        jesus2099: hmm, i autoedited recording and the script was working correctly after that, i think the problem i had was when the autoeditor approved one of my edits (it removed the recording disambiguation and changed the recording duration)
      • 2013-05-24 14431, 2013

      • humhumxx
        ... and they're all 45 years of age, and registered at roughly the same time.
      • 2013-05-24 14441, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: And Wikidata do not have most of cities from Finland :/ (Or it have, but not linked)
      • 2013-05-24 14459, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: they have them all, because they have a page for every wikipedia page
      • 2013-05-24 14404, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But indeed they're not linked (yet)
      • 2013-05-24 14418, 2013

      • reosarevok
        The idea is to run a bot to extract wikipedia data, link them on wikidata and add them to MB
      • 2013-05-24 14425, 2013

      • culinko
        jesus2099: and also i autoedited tracklists on this recording: http://musicbrainz.org/recording/56a4e85f-bde2-4e… and the script still works with the old values, so they are highlighted
      • 2013-05-24 14410, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Ok, sounds good.
      • 2013-05-24 14413, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I mean, some cities are linked already, Helsinki is there, I saw Oulu too I think (in our list of ready-to-import cities)
      • 2013-05-24 14422, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But yeah, it'll need some work
      • 2013-05-24 14447, 2013

      • reosarevok
        at least since we'll be submitting the info to wikidata too, we'll make sure the next person who needs such a dataset has it in a more useful way :)
      • 2013-05-24 14453, 2013

      • derwin
        wikidata has to be cc0, because it contains facts?
      • 2013-05-24 14404, 2013

      • reosarevok
        derwin: it is
      • 2013-05-24 14434, 2013

      • reosarevok
        It's just that they take the info from wikipedia, which is not
      • 2013-05-24 14457, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: with the two step fix i told you it works ok but all track artists are shown even if ==
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But wikipedia clearly says
      • 2013-05-24 14407, 2013

      • reosarevok
        "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License"
      • 2013-05-24 14414, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Text != data :)
      • 2013-05-24 14419, 2013

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      • culinko
        jesus2099: i think this is fine for me for now:)
      • 2013-05-24 14448, 2013

      • jesus2099
        the best is that ( culinko ) i use this fix and add coding to know when track artist is ≠ rec artist (this algorithm was done by search server), it’s more difficult
      • 2013-05-24 14423, 2013

      • jesus2099
        maybe i should use an xml to javascript and then tostring and then compare :/
      • 2013-05-24 14429, 2013

      • culinko
        are today's restarts over or not yet?
      • 2013-05-24 14447, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        all of that's done now
      • 2013-05-24 14458, 2013

      • jesus2099
        maybe we can see how much time does it take to update search server… there’s is a ticket ianmcorvidae said to make it immediate… maybe i should not code anything too quivk :)
      • 2013-05-24 14401, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: ↗
      • 2013-05-24 14416, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        search indexes are rebuilt every 4 hours IIRC
      • 2013-05-24 14417, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-24 14422, 2013

      • culinko
        because all of my problematic edits are still open and there is something funky with areas i think:)
      • 2013-05-24 14425, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Wasn't it 3?
      • 2013-05-24 14427, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Anyway
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        might be 3
      • 2013-05-24 14434, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        one or the other anyway
      • 2013-05-24 14434, 2013

      • reosarevok
        A long time
      • 2013-05-24 14455, 2013

      • culinko
      • 2013-05-24 14400, 2013

      • culinko
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      • jesus2099
        and theer is a ticket for immediateness isn’t it?
      • 2013-05-24 14420, 2013

      • culinko
        i added the Slovak country to the artist after the schema change
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • jesus2099
        because what was just said… updates every 3 hours
      • 2013-05-24 14424, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        is there a country field on recording stuff?
      • 2013-05-24 14448, 2013

      • culinko
        it's the artist country
      • 2013-05-24 14453, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-24 14455, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        culinko: that 'country' field on the recording search is not, no, it's the recording release country
      • 2013-05-24 14459, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
      • 2013-05-24 14419, 2013

      • culinko
        or it is the release country? damn
      • 2013-05-24 14424, 2013

      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: there is. there's some test code that did it immediately (or very fast, at least)
      • 2013-05-24 14435, 2013

      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: but it had some other problems which needed fixing first I think?
      • 2013-05-24 14440, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Something like that :)
      • 2013-05-24 14442, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        it wasn't perfect, no
      • 2013-05-24 14448, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        it updated the different indexes at different speeds, though
      • 2013-05-24 14454, 2013

      • jesus2099
        how can it be both indexed and immediate?
      • 2013-05-24 14457, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        artist/label/work updated almost immediately
      • 2013-05-24 14402, 2013

      • culinko needs to find a way to search for recording names by artists from a specific country then
      • 2013-05-24 14415, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        it wasn't quite immediate, the way to do that would be to have the database push straight to the indexes
      • 2013-05-24 14428, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        recording/release were a bit slower, anyway
      • 2013-05-24 14455, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: and recordings? (culinko’s trouble)
      • 2013-05-24 14422, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ah slower like 5 minutes?
      • 2013-05-24 14427, 2013

      • jesus2099
        recs↗
      • 2013-05-24 14458, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        in the worst case
      • 2013-05-24 14459, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        so ridiculously faster than the current setup. but still slower than the nearly-immediate artist/label/work ones
      • 2013-05-24 14436, 2013

      • culinko
        ianmcorvidae: what about my problematic edits, will they pass at some point?
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

      • reosarevok
        NO!
      • 2013-05-24 14456, 2013

      • reosarevok
        We'll vote No on them! :P
      • 2013-05-24 14402, 2013

      • culinko
        :(
      • 2013-05-24 14412, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        culinko: they should pass next hour if they've expired or have votes
      • 2013-05-24 14418, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        the thing that was blocking them has been fixed
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • culinko
        yay!
      • 2013-05-24 14433, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        (that was part of the downtime today, in fact!)
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • culinko
        also, what about the problematic releases where the tables were screwed, should the edits be done again or the whole thing has been fixed?
      • 2013-05-24 14426, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        the table breakage wasn't a problem on the main site, only on mirror servers
      • 2013-05-24 14429, 2013

      • culinko
        you mentioned something in the blog post few days ago
      • 2013-05-24 14451, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        so that won't have any effect on edits
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • jesus2099
        culinko: i thihnk i will have to use the lookup WS instead of search but code something to know muyself when rec artists ≠ track artist which can be quite tricky with AC
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

      • culinko hopes he won't cause jesus2099 to waste much time
      • 2013-05-24 14428, 2013

      • jesus2099
        it stays as is for the moment, i don’t know when i do that :)
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • culinko
        btw. is there a ticket for edit search by artist country? it still gives me an error and dunno if that's been reported already
      • 2013-05-24 14420, 2013

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      • reosarevok
        culinko: it's fixed in beta
      • 2013-05-24 14447, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        which will be released to production monday
      • 2013-05-24 14404, 2013

      • culinko
        great!
      • 2013-05-24 14441, 2013

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      • culinko found out reosarevok created 22 slovak artists:P
      • 2013-05-24 14414, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-24 14437, 2013

      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: Schema 17/18 upgrade instructions <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=1962>
      • 2013-05-24 14431, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: (I still want write email to some official authority and ask why hell our data is not really open)
      • 2013-05-24 14444, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-24 14402, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I find it kinda funny because from what I've seen data in FI is so much more open than in Spain
      • 2013-05-24 14413, 2013

      • Jozo
        I just not yet find any official authority for responsiple...
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Where they are like "omg but if we open anything they'll find we're stealing all their money!!!"
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (well, that's what I imagine they thing about it at least :) )
      • 2013-05-24 14452, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Yeh... cc-by like lisence
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, if it's not -sa it's still quite OK
      • 2013-05-24 14434, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: (and future cc-by 4.0 (draft) license... there is some progress to use more common licenses)
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

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      • culinko
        wohoo, my edits are finally applied :P
      • 2013-05-24 14412, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        yay :D
      • 2013-05-24 14424, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        glad to hear it did in fact work
      • 2013-05-24 14418, 2013

      • culinko
        even the one i've done again and had 3 yes votes passed
      • 2013-05-24 14413, 2013

      • culinko
        this was the 5th problematic one that i've done again: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/22227885 - reosarevok you know what to do:P
      • 2013-05-24 14453, 2013

      • culinko
        great, it worked:)
      • 2013-05-24 14406, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Too bad there’s no way to add releases with no tracklistings… http://www.cddirect.nl/PDF/Classical%20Gallery%20…
      • 2013-05-24 14421, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-24 14419, 2013

      • hawke_1
        1 track, [unknown]? That seems too misleading
      • 2013-05-24 14430, 2013

      • hawke_1
        given how many tools rely on track count for matching
      • 2013-05-24 14407, 2013

      • balrog
        hawke_1: aren't the track listings on the album insert?
      • 2013-05-24 14416, 2013

      • hawke_1
        balrog: what album insert?
      • 2013-05-24 14437, 2013

      • balrog
        the piece of paper in the cd case
      • 2013-05-24 14431, 2013

      • balrog
        or is there none?
      • 2013-05-24 14448, 2013

      • hawke_1
        what CD case?
      • 2013-05-24 14441, 2013

      • SultS_
        NUKEM: Duke 3D Remixes from Retro Game Music Bundle is pretty awesome :)
      • 2013-05-24 14417, 2013

      • reosarevok
        balrog: the idea would be to add the data from the catalog, I imagine
      • 2013-05-24 14426, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Which has no tracklists :)
      • 2013-05-24 14451, 2013

      • balrog
        ahh. well then yeah :P
      • 2013-05-24 14407, 2013

      • balrog
        reosarevok: are discids mandatory to add new albums?
      • 2013-05-24 14416, 2013

      • reosarevok
        certainly not
      • 2013-05-24 14423, 2013

      • reosarevok
        It'd be a problem when adding vinyls ;)
      • 2013-05-24 14450, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If you have it, then much better, but I often add stuff I don't even have, so :)
      • 2013-05-24 14400, 2013

      • balrog
        yeah but for cd based albums that were ripped a while ago for which the disc is no longer readily accessible?
      • 2013-05-24 14402, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Nope.
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      • hawke_1
        If you don’t have the info, you don’t have it.
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      • hawke_1
        Note that it can be recovered from an EAC/XLD log though
      • 2013-05-24 14442, 2013

      • Lotheric
        any ripper log containing the TOC ;)
      • 2013-05-24 14411, 2013

      • hawke_1
        indeed
      • 2013-05-24 14435, 2013

      • hawke_1
        I’m not sure how flexible that tool is in identifying the discID though
      • 2013-05-24 14440, 2013

      • balrog
        so a TOC generated from a cuesheet would work?
      • 2013-05-24 14454, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Nope.
      • 2013-05-24 14456, 2013

      • hawke_1
        well
      • 2013-05-24 14400, 2013

      • hawke_1
        maybe?
      • 2013-05-24 14404, 2013

      • balrog
        wait, what's the REM DISCID in the cuesheet?
      • 2013-05-24 14405, 2013

      • balrog
        :P
      • 2013-05-24 14408, 2013

      • balrog
        something like 8511F43B
      • 2013-05-24 14413, 2013

      • hawke_1
        that’s the freedb discID
      • 2013-05-24 14418, 2013

      • balrog
        aah
      • 2013-05-24 14434, 2013

      • balrog
        oh wait, here's an accuraterip discid
      • 2013-05-24 14437, 2013

      • balrog
        for this particular album