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      • kepstin-work
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      • kepstin-work
        lost a question mark :)
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      • CatCat
        inspired by olf japanese castle buildings i see
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      • CatCat
        lol giant saw
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      • CatCat
        *loi
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      • CatCat
        he it's cute how google still has that broken robot image on their 404 page
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      • CatCat
        ^_^
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      • flamingspinach
        no, doujinshi (同人誌) refer specifically to printed matter (unofficially and independently produced)
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      • flamingspinach
        music is 同人音楽 (doujin ongaku)
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      • kepstin-work
        alright, I'm a little off, but "doujin" is used in general for various types of works
      • 2013-02-06 03730, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        speaking of doujin music, you didn't respond to my comment on your ancient edit, kepstin-work :)
      • 2013-02-06 03746, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        flamingspinach: right, that one about chata's circle or whatever.
      • 2013-02-06 03756, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        yup
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      • kepstin-work
        I think I agree with you, the other artist should be removed from the group
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      • flamingspinach
        k, doing so now
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      • kepstin-work
        ウサギキノコ right?
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      • kepstin-work
        pretty silly circle name :)
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      • flamingspinach
        I guess it's supposed to be girly-sounding
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      • Freso
        Yeah. Totally hilarious.
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      • Freso
        >_>
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      • flamingspinach
        Freso: it means rabbit-mushroom
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      • nikki
        heh, so I understood it right
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      • CatCat
        usagi!
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      • kepstin-work
        usagi ki no ko!
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      • nikki had doubts, given how much sense it makes :P
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      • CatCat
        usagi kinoko
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      • kepstin-work
        兎木の子? :)
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      • flamingspinach
        I think きのこ is well enough lexicalized that you can romanize it as one word
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      • flamingspinach
        usagi kinoko
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      • kepstin-work
        yeah, probably
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      • flamingspinach
        it even has a one-kanji spelling: 茸
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      • flamingspinach
        (though I suppose that doesn't say much about Japanese on the fundamental level, more about Chinese)
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      • kepstin-work didn't know that, but his kanji knowledge is... limited, at best :)
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      • flamingspinach
        there are some obviously multiword phrases that can be written with one kanji, such as 掌 = 手の平 = te no hira = palm of the hand
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      • CatCat
        wait mushroom or rabbit mushroom?
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      • flamingspinach
        CatCat: ウサギキノコ is rabbit-mushroom
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      • CatCat
        becasue then that might be a spesific mushroom alled rabbit mushroom
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      • flamingspinach
        キノコ is mushroom
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      • flamingspinach
        ウサギ is rabbit
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      • CatCat
        [20:32] flamingspinach it even has a one-kanji spelling: 茸
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      • flamingspinach
        mushroom can also be written 茸
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      • flamingspinach
        or きのこ
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      • CatCat
        i'm not stupid ¬¬
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      • flamingspinach
        or 菌
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      • flamingspinach
        huh?
      • 2013-02-06 03750, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        oh
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      • flamingspinach
        yeah I meant きのこ is a single word and has a one-kanji spelling 茸
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      • flamingspinach
        I was talking to kepstin-work
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      • CatCat
        :)
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      • flamingspinach
        <kepstin-work> usagi ki no ko!
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      • flamingspinach
        he wrote きのこ as three words
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      • flamingspinach
        which is probably the etymology, really
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      • flamingspinach
        mushrooms are trees' children :P
      • 2013-02-06 03734, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        tree child :)
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      • kepstin-work
        or baby tree or whatever
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      • flamingspinach
        whereas in chinese the construction of the kanji 茸 suggests "plant ear"
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      • flamingspinach
        possibly the kind of mushrooms that grow on the trunks of trees and look like little shelves
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      • CatCat
        yes, ko is child and ki is tree
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      • flamingspinach
        those do look kind of like ears
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      • CatCat
        so the tree's child
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      • CatCat
        @or child of the tree
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      • CatCat knows a little bit japanese
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      • kepstin-work
        given how often mushrooms grow on trees, that definitely makes sense.
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      • CatCat
        also i wrote
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      • CatCat
        [20:32] CatCat usagi kinoko
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      • CatCat
        :_)
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      • flamingspinach
        kepstin-work did you hear the release I added to ウサギキノコ btw?
      • 2013-02-06 03734, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        it's pretty good
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      • kepstin-work
        flamingspinach: no, I haven't grabbed much recently
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      • CatCat is definitly interested
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      • kepstin-work
        but I really like chata's stuff in general
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      • CatCat
        what is it liike?
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      • CatCat
        -i
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      • flamingspinach
        I'd only heard her as a guest singer on other people's releases
      • 2013-02-06 03724, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        CatCat: female japanese pop vocalist
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      • CatCat
        is it happy bouncy studff?
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      • CatCat
        -d
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      • flamingspinach
        she describes it on her site as having a "sparkly feeling"
      • 2013-02-06 03744, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        this particular release, I mean
      • 2013-02-06 03750, 2013

      • CatCat
        yes kepstin, igathered as much as that ¬¬
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      • kepstin-work
        hmm, she's done some happy bouncy stuff, but a fair range
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      • CatCat
        :D
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      • CatCat likes minimoni
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      • flamingspinach
        she's a singer and doesn't stick with a single composer/arranger for her songs so each album is usually a bit different, apparently
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      • kepstin-work likes her stuff with, what is it, CLOCK MUSIC
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      • CatCat
        ooh variation i liek that
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      • flamingspinach
        this is sort of, I dunno, electronic pop style (don't know what to call it)
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      • CatCat
        neat
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      • kepstin-work
        (CLOCK MUSIC has had two vocalists, chata and some male vocalist that I can't remember; most of the newer stuff is chata)
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      • CatCat
        "chata" was it?
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      • kepstin-work
        茶太 i think
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      • flamingspinach
        yeah 茶太
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      • flamingspinach
        this release is the one I added the other day http://musicbrainz.org/release/869197d6-dd7a-4a97…
      • 2013-02-06 03712, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        (and the only one I've heard from ウサギキノコ)
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      • kepstin-work
        she does do a lost of guest vocals on stuff from other circles tho
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      • kepstin-work hears her occasionally on touhou stuff
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      • flamingspinach
        yeah I heard her on one of onoken's CDs
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      • kepstin-work
        then of course there's the famous "dango daikazoku" end theme for the clannad anime :)
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      • kepstin-work
        dango~ dango~ dango~ dango~
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      • kepstin-work
        dango daikazoku~
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      • Freso
        HektoR: Depends on what you feed Picard.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: Old versions of Picard generated PUIDs and looked them up against MusicBrainz' database.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: Newer versions can use AcoustID instead, if you have the fpcalc program installed (not sure if it's bundled with the Windows version).
      • 2013-02-06 03715, 2013

      • HektoR
        Freso: I just want to know can i use picard to detect artist name from text ?
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      • Freso
        HektoR: Future versions will have the PUID option removed.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: If you have a text "Foo bar baz eggs spam tomato" and want to detect that "bar baz" and "spam" are artists, then no.
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      • hawke_1
        HektoR: It has some possibility to do that, and it does it automatically.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: If you have a text "Bar Baz" and want to know if an artist is called that, you can use the MB web service to look it up.
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      • hawke_1
        but there is no way to correct it if it’s wrong when it guesses.
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      • Freso
        hawke_1: I think HektoR wants to run a script/name detection against articles/longer texts.
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      • HektoR
        Freso: hawke_1 I want to implement something like this with musicbrainz data. I have some text which contains artist names for example "The best rock band is Linkin Park". how is it possible to know that Linkin Park is an artist
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      • Freso
        hawke_1: And detect which names are artists.
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      • HektoR
        Freso: Yes. exactly
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      • hawke_1
        HektoR: yeah, Picard is not the thing to use for that, then.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: Picard can't do that. Picard is for file tagging.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: You were onto the right thing earlier.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: You need to get a database dump and extract artist names, aliases, and artist credits and store that somehow, then run a check against that list/collection.
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      • hawke_1
        Yep.
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      • hawke_1
        and it will be full of false positives. :-D
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      • Freso
        Yep.
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      • Freso
        Like "rock band"
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      • Freso
        But further linguistic patterns could be added.
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      • Freso
        E.g. only match title cased phrases.
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      • Krystof
        reoafk: do you happen to know how the hyperion digital downloads are tagged, and whether it's straightforward to musicbrainzify them?
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      • HektoR
        Freso: hawke_1 so what's the best way to achieve this ? to extract artist names from text ?
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      • Freso
        HektoR: To make a list or something with artist names + aliases + artist credits from the MB database, and then run a check against that.
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      • hawke_1
        Do as above but with heuristics to determine when they’re talking about an artist, and when not.
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      • Freso
        HektoR: How you store that list depends entirely on your tech savvyness and your needs.
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      • Freso
        The simplest would be a newline separated text file.
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      • Freso
        And then check if a given word/phrase is listed in that.
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      • Freso
        (I'd probably make it a text file per initial letter/character or something though. It's a *long* list.)
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      • hawke_1
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      • kepstin-work
        of course, you're going to run into the issue that name is not sufficient to identify a particular artist.