oh man, this Senora lady is causing a lot of trouble, huh?
2013-03-10 06918, 2013
johtso
drsaunde, ah nice!
2013-03-10 06946, 2013
jacobbrett
johtso: If you mean trying to work out whether two MB Recordings are the same real recording, Acoustid fingerprints might help a bit.
2013-03-10 06949, 2013
drsaunde
has recording dates and personnel for all of his original rec.
2013-03-10 06902, 2013
johtso
it's just a bit frustrating that the usual concept of a recording doesn't map to a musicbrainz recording
2013-03-10 06935, 2013
jacobbrett
johtso: Yeah, that's something being discussed and will probably change in the near future.
2013-03-10 06939, 2013
drsaunde
johtso: there are many people that believe it should (me included)
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MutantPlatypus
johtso: can't you relate them to their proper work more easily?
2013-03-10 06905, 2013
MutantPlatypus
and Work is more general than a recording, so
2013-03-10 06907, 2013
MutantPlatypus
um
2013-03-10 06909, 2013
MutantPlatypus
stuff
2013-03-10 06916, 2013
johtso
MutantPlatypus, what do you mean? relating all the individual recordings to the work
2013-03-10 06918, 2013
MutantPlatypus
wait, bye-bye, train of thought
2013-03-10 06920, 2013
johtso
*?
2013-03-10 06924, 2013
johtso
:)
2013-03-10 06955, 2013
MutantPlatypus
even if there a small variations between the recordings, they would be recordings of the same Work
2013-03-10 06908, 2013
MutantPlatypus
are you talking about *merging* recordings?
2013-03-10 06927, 2013
MutantPlatypus
oh, and by relating, i mean:
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MutantPlatypus hunts for a link
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MutantPlatypus
Work-to-Recording relationship A work can be associated with one or more recordings. This provides the indirect association between a work and its performance and production artists.
2013-03-10 06908, 2013
MutantPlatypus
from doc/Work
2013-03-10 06921, 2013
MutantPlatypus
i'm trying to find the link to the description of that particular Relationship
MutantPlatypus, right, I was talking about merging recordings, so that you can look at a list of recordings of a specific song performed by an artist, and see that they recorded the song x times, rather than having a huge list of the same song on various compilations
2013-03-10 06952, 2013
johtso
and adding work relationships to so many duplicate recordings individually would be quite a pain..
2013-03-10 06904, 2013
MutantPlatypus
oh, ok. well then I have nothing to add to that discussion :)
2013-03-10 06919, 2013
MutantPlatypus
i figured you would associate them with the Works first to make the merging easier to decide later
btw if the liner notes are wrong then you should add an annotation
2013-03-10 06946, 2013
MutantPlatypus
ty
2013-03-10 06900, 2013
johtso
it's a shame the user script doesn't work on the search page where you also get a release column
2013-03-10 06941, 2013
MutantPlatypus
does the French case guesser work?
2013-03-10 06918, 2013
MutantPlatypus
ew, it removes accented characters. so no. but what about for case checking?
2013-03-10 06932, 2013
reosarevok
I have no idea what the French guess case does
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MutantPlatypus
johtso: did you mean to have Lord Kitchener's Work inspire two separate Works by (Joseph Spence and Lord Invader)? I meant to ask if you were sure that, since Lord Invader has a recording that predates Joseph Spence by a deade.
2013-03-10 06951, 2013
johtso
MutantPlatypus, wasn't sure which work to relate joseph spence's, the original seemed like a good option
2013-03-10 06936, 2013
MutantPlatypus
is there a recording of Spence's available on the web?
yeah, from those snippets I'd say you made the right choice :P
2013-03-10 06933, 2013
derwin
how do I see the list of acoustid submitters by fingerprints submitted?
2013-03-10 06939, 2013
derwin
I swear I saw a page like that before..
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jesus2099
jozo, collection highlighter chrome bug was due to a recent MBS change that added <BDI> tags all over the <A> everywhere and that made the display buggy in crohme :/ I fixed it (but do not really like to have to add funny stuff work arounds) ;)
2013-03-10 06912, 2013
jesus2099
Jozo: for funkey disco however, I think CAA must have been down or something when you tried it maybe...
what is the right way to merge them, considering they have slightly different tracklists? (he hasn't removed the bogus beatport (original mix) crap)
2013-03-10 06933, 2013
reosarevok
Titles don't matter
2013-03-10 06935, 2013
reosarevok
So just merge
2013-03-10 06953, 2013
reosarevok
If you merge into the one with the right titles, it will just keep those
2013-03-10 06919, 2013
reosarevok
Also, it's "feat." not "Feat." :)
2013-03-10 06937, 2013
derwin
yeah I usually guess case
2013-03-10 06925, 2013
derwin
and that gets Feat. -> feat.
2013-03-10 06907, 2013
MuPlatAFK
anyone know if its possible to capture Amazon's cover art that's provided by the zoom view? It seems to be available in a high resolution that I can't get at
2013-03-10 06949, 2013
CallerNo6
derwin: when you remove "(original mix)", do you add it as a disambig comment? Not required, but at least some editors prefer doing it that way.
2013-03-10 06904, 2013
CallerNo6
(iirc)
2013-03-10 06954, 2013
derwin
CallerNo6: I would if it weren't beatport just adding "(Original Mix)" on everything
2013-03-10 06909, 2013
derwin
if it said (Original Mix) on a CD, I'd actually just leave it probably.
2013-03-10 06925, 2013
CallerNo6
oh, gotcha
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eindoofus
hi, does anyone here play piano? I'm trying to figure out how to interpret the fingering for scales on this site: http://www.pianoscales.org/major.html Does 1 mean the thumb, and 5 the pinky, for both the LH and RH?
2013-03-10 06951, 2013
nikki
derwin: last.fm/audioscrobbler used to point users to mb when their site was down (which happened quite often too), they were the source of a lot of editors back then
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derwin
nikki: I see
2013-03-10 06940, 2013
derwin
influx = sustained
2013-03-10 06920, 2013
nikki
also, cd stubs don't need people to sign up, so presumably people would have signed up in order to add a cd before
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peaveyman_
how do I make the open in tagger button show on the website
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nikki
open a page from picard using the lookup in browser button
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nikki
(then refresh whichever page you want the button to appear on)
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nikki
it's also possible to drag and drop the urls into picard, that works really well for some people
2013-03-10 06911, 2013
peaveyman_
got it, thanks
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peaveyman_
what does it mean when picard says stream info block not found
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Leftmost
Mornin', Freso.
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Freso
...
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Freso
It's a snowstorm out there.
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Freso
Y u be snowing spring?! Stahp!
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c0rnel
how do i configure picard for fingerprinting?
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c0rnel
because i added the key, the binary and selected acoustid, but i i right click on a wav file, it asks to select a folder
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Leftmost
Ben\Sput, I'm having a problem with the scanner locking and not responding to kill signals. Ctrl+C, kill -9, kill -11. Nothin'.
have you looked up the artists on the tracklist tab?
2013-03-10 06900, 2013
rmunn
Paste that into the track parser with "Track names start with a number" and "Detect track durations" selected.
2013-03-10 06916, 2013
rmunn
nikki: Is that directed to me, or to someone who was talking before I entered the channel?
2013-03-10 06920, 2013
nikki
you
2013-03-10 06943, 2013
rmunn
I'm entering them all with Handel as the artist, as per what appears to be the new style for classical music.
2013-03-10 06901, 2013
rmunn
Then I'll go through later on and apply appropriate performer credits for the artists credited by Amazon.
2013-03-10 06908, 2013
rmunn
The pastebin is simply the result of my taking Amazon's credits, *deleting* the artist credits and formatting it properly for MB, then saving the result. That's what I would be creating the MB entry from if I could get the server to accept it, but given the 302 tracks, no dice on the server end.
2013-03-10 06931, 2013
nikki waits for the track parser to take its time
2013-03-10 06902, 2013
rmunn
So in the track parser, I leave "Parse track artists" unchecked.
2013-03-10 06935, 2013
nikki drums her fingers on the desk...
2013-03-10 06907, 2013
rmunn
I asked about this a few days ago and hawke_1 suggested creating multiple release entries with maybe 100 tracks each, then combining them later. Problem is, I could make a multiple-CD entry that way, but not a single-CD entry. (For "CD" substitute "digital album" in this case, of course.)
2013-03-10 06902, 2013
nikki
jeeez is this taking forever
2013-03-10 06957, 2013
rmunn
I'm beginning to suspect that the MB code is configured to reject entries with more than N entries in the track list, where N is some arbitrary number like 200 or 250 (or maybe 256), because those are "obviously" someone trying to DOS the MB servers. Problem is, in this case there's a genuine need to create a 302-track release entry, and that code is rejecting it for the wrong reason.
2013-03-10 06906, 2013
nikki
it's not
2013-03-10 06912, 2013
rmunn
Any MB coders on right now who could confirm that?
