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      • Herr_Kriss
        yeah
      • 2013-03-14 07358, 2013

      • hawke_
        The problem is that some release groups have both official and bootleg
      • 2013-03-14 07314, 2013

      • hawke_
        so it requires looking into every release group to see if there is an official release in it
      • 2013-03-14 07331, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
      • 2013-03-14 07342, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        it's download only, "internet bootleg"
      • 2013-03-14 07304, 2013

      • hawke_
        That’s still OK. :-)
      • 2013-03-14 07306, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        so it's like adding to MB every live video recorded by cell phone from YT
      • 2013-03-14 07327, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        I'm trying to get where is border
      • 2013-03-14 07334, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        between ok and not ok
      • 2013-03-14 07338, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Theoretically that would be fine I guess - but nobody would care enough
      • 2013-03-14 07344, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        ok
      • 2013-03-14 07347, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        I got it
      • 2013-03-14 07355, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I mean, there *is* a limit, really
      • 2013-03-14 07310, 2013

      • reosarevok
        People don't like stuff that you do and only keep for yourself or give to a friend
      • 2013-03-14 07313, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        sorry, I'm from Wikipedia and everything has it's policies
      • 2013-03-14 07316, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        which isn't good thing
      • 2013-03-14 07317, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But if it is available
      • 2013-03-14 07324, 2013

      • reosarevok
        And everyone can get it, it's usually fine
      • 2013-03-14 07340, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        ok
      • 2013-03-14 07344, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Especially if they're *new* recordings, for digital stuff
      • 2013-03-14 07350, 2013

      • hawke_
        or if anyone *could have* gotten it at some point. :-)
      • 2013-03-14 07355, 2013

      • reosarevok
        For example, a live bootleg would probably be always fine
      • 2013-03-14 07310, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        Herr_Kriss: we're not as bad as wikipedia in terms of selectivity :)
      • 2013-03-14 07313, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If you make a random compilation of pre-released tracks and put that on a blog, that's more of a grey area
      • 2013-03-14 07327, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        Ben\Sput1: good :D
      • 2013-03-14 07351, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        in Wikimedia Commons you can upload only educational photos
      • 2013-03-14 07355, 2013

      • nikki
        we also don't go around deleting everything for not being notable enough :P
      • 2013-03-14 07307, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        so recently somebody told that porn star bending to camera is educational
      • 2013-03-14 07314, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        as private parts are well visible
      • 2013-03-14 07326, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        Herr_Kriss: :P
      • 2013-03-14 07326, 2013

      • hawke_
        I would like to learn more. :-D
      • 2013-03-14 07338, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        and categories like Woman with sunglasses wearing bikini
      • 2013-03-14 07347, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        girls are the best categorized theme
      • 2013-03-14 07320, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        naked guy: nah, we don't need it; naked girl: it's very important, it could be used in many articles!
      • 2013-03-14 07321, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        ;)
      • 2013-03-14 07339, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        Ben\Sput1: I'm looking at the mix definitions page. Is there a working definition for "master" or whatever the other level is?
      • 2013-03-14 07305, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        I'jm wondering if there will be another copyright revolution
      • 2013-03-14 07313, 2013

      • Herr_Kriss
        Mickey Mouse is going to public domain soon
      • 2013-03-14 07338, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        CallerNo6: nope, cause we didn't agree to have master
      • 2013-03-14 07323, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        Ben\Sput1: no track entity or anything? It's still going to be a one-level thing then?
      • 2013-03-14 07330, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        CallerNo6: I tend to think of it as master stuff is the bits audiophiles care about, mix is the stuff that a general person would go, "oh, this is different D:"
      • 2013-03-14 07334, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        CallerNo6: nope, no track entity
      • 2013-03-14 07336, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        just ids
      • 2013-03-14 07343, 2013

      • Ben\Sput1
        but hopefully track entities in the future
      • 2013-03-14 07319, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        hmm. got it. thanks.
      • 2013-03-14 07326, 2013

      • derwin
        mix = sweet jane album version
      • 2013-03-14 07340, 2013

      • derwin
        remaster = velvet underground box set version of sweet jane album version
      • 2013-03-14 07346, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        derwin, that's what I'd /like/ to see, yeah. It's the same mix (in my mind) until it's /remixed/.
      • 2013-03-14 07320, 2013

      • hawke_
        Problem is that no one really knows when a remaster is different from another remaster
      • 2013-03-14 07325, 2013

      • derwin
        ^^^ this
      • 2013-03-14 07333, 2013

      • derwin
        unless it's like MSFL or whatever
      • 2013-03-14 07338, 2013

      • derwin
        where they are explicit about master
      • 2013-03-14 07337, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        Not a problem if you only care about mixes :-) Let the audiophiles worry about the rest.
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      • hawke_
        CallerNo6: Still have to get the audiophiles to agree
      • 2013-03-14 07301, 2013

      • Ben\Sput
        hawke_: not until we actually support masters :P
      • 2013-03-14 07349, 2013

      • hawke_
        obviously
      • 2013-03-14 07358, 2013

      • hawke_
        but having an agreement on what one is would probably help support that
      • 2013-03-14 07330, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        I thought the explanation @ http://musicians.about.com/od/musiciansfaq/f/mixi… sounded reasonable
      • 2013-03-14 07318, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        ... but I have no idea if that's how the terms are actually /used/.
      • 2013-03-14 07334, 2013

      • Ben\Sput
        I haven't got around to looking at that yet
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