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      • kepstin_
        I come home, I finish scanning a CD, and boom. https://archive.org/stats/s3.php :/
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      • ianmcorvidae
        wow, that's worse than usual even
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      • ianmcorvidae
        just *shot* up there
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      • nikki feels the need to point out that despite people complaining every time it goes down, the caa is apparently not as broken as people seem to think
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      • nikki
        it now accounts for a quarter of all releases with cover art, and the number of releases with caa covers is increasing 10 times as a fast as the number of releases with cover art from asins
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      • nikki
        (and that's even though hrglgrmpf is running a bot that adds asins)
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      • causasui
        okay, picard has an option to delete apev2 tags. what if I want to prefer apev2 over id3v2 though? (ie, delete id3v2 and ADD apev2)
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      • kepstin_
        causasui: on what file format, mp3?
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      • kepstin_ notes that picard does write apev2 tag on a few formats, when it's the standard tag type for that format
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      • kepstin_
        the main reason not to use apev2 tags on mp3 is that most players won't read them - and since the tags format isn't designed for mp3, it doesn't desynchronize, so some players might play an apev2 tags as noise...
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      • kepstin_
        (but anyways, picard won't let you write apev2 tags to mp3s - and the real reason for that option is that some players prefer reading the apev2 tags, and don't see picard's updates unless you remove them...)
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      • causasui
        I don't use any players that don't support apev2 and won't
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      • causasui
        wherever I am playing music it is always streaming through mpd anyway
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      • derwin
        ape? lol?
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      • MissDee
        wow, old school!
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      • MissDee
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      • causasui
        so anyway
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      • causasui
        no?
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      • nikki
        as kepstin said, it writes it for formats where it's standard. it doesn't let you write them to mp3s
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      • flamingspinach
        [2013-06-07 14:28:33] <flamingspinach> why do you have to be logged into musicbrainz to see edit pages?
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      • derwin
        "because"
      • 2013-06-08 15953, 2013

      • derwin
        (no good reason, I think)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        my understanding is that the notion is to sort of hide the "ugly" bits -- hiding edit pages means that things said in edit notes etc. are in-community, not really public
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      • ianmcorvidae
        which can help prevent some of the friction between talking in a public persona and focusing on doing the right thing
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      • ianmcorvidae
        whether that reasoning is reasonable I'm not sure :P but I think that's where it comes from
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      • Mineo
        wow, 504, that's a new one
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      • ianmcorvidae
        there will probably be more of those actually
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      • ianmcorvidae
        504 is what happens when the frontend times out, vs. when the backend server times out
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      • ianmcorvidae
        and the backend timeout is now 60s, which is the same as the frontend, where it used to be 30s backend and 60s frontend
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      • Mineo
        ah
      • 2013-06-08 15902, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        so you're likely to get 504s in cases where you used to get 502s
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      • Mineo
        that makes sense
      • 2013-06-08 15914, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        (but fewer errors of either type overall, hopefully)
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      • CatQuest
        why the fk does soemone make a bot to add asins?
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      • CatQuest
        well with the intent of adding coverart
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I don't think the bot that adds ASINs is there for getting coverart, it's there for linking ASINs as a remote identifier
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      • CatQuest
        hmm. is this thing broken
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      • CatQuest
        its fucking jumpy whenver I do scrollback
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      • CatQuest
        :///@
      • 2013-06-08 15946, 2013

      • CatQuest
        ah well then it's ok
      • 2013-06-08 15952, 2013

      • CatQuest
        just the way nikki said it about the bot
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      • CatQuest
        i also add asins
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      • CatQuest
        I'm a bit sceptical about adding asins by bot tho, you *really* have to be careful to get the right version
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      • nikki
        it uses barcodes
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      • CatQuest
        yea.
      • 2013-06-08 15912, 2013

      • CatQuest
        not a good idea
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      • nikki
        the edits its made against artists I'm subscribed to have all been correct so I just approved them
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      • CatQuest
        oh theedits are open? t
      • 2013-06-08 15944, 2013

      • nikki
        yes
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      • CatQuest
        that's alright then
      • 2013-06-08 15901, 2013

      • nikki
        I always add asins if I can, yet somehow I keep missing some
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      • nikki
        every time the bot comes along I'm like "wtf? why doesn't it have one already!" :P
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      • CatQuest
        does ti d omp3/cd version right too?
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      • CatQuest
        also I have a hard time.. this amazon does not sisplay brcodes :/
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      • nikki
        it checks formats and afaik the mp3 ones don't have barcodes, so I guess so
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        :/
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      • CatQuest
        hmm, is there an userscript to show barcodes on amazon pages?
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      • CatQuest
        i mean if the bot knows the barcode, it must get it fro msomewhere
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      • nikki
        it gets it from amazon's api
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      • CatQuest
        yea
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      • nikki
        which is a gigantic pain in the arse to set up
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      • CatQuest
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      • nikki
        the japanese amazon is doing it right. they display barcodes now :D
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      • CatQuest
        \o/
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      • reosarevok_
        SultS: \o/ nice find
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      • SultS
        glad you like it, reosarevok_ :)
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      • reosarevok_
        SultS: woo, first recording merges :)
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      • jacobbrett
        reosarevok: Another Sydney band :P http://jesuschristposse.bandcamp.com/
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      • reosarevok_
        merge-merge-merge
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      • santiissopasse
        I'm trying to setup the mbslave postgres DB, does anyone know if I can pick and choose which files from the dump to import into the DB or if you have to import all of them for it to work? https://bitbucket.org/lalinsky/mbslave/src
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      • fractalizator
        hi!
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      • fractalizator
        one more case of "ADD ALL TEH WIKIS!1!!"
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      • fractalizator
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      • Lotheric-work
        Is it wrong to do so ? I thought localized MB used localized wikis
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      • fractalizator
        few weeks ago there was a discussion about it
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      • Lotheric-work
        Perhaps links to other languages (from the locale used by the user) wikipedia should be hidden unless there's only one wiki linked
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      • fractalizator
        like, sometimes the lists are to long
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      • fractalizator
        and something like they will be replaced through wikidata anyway
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      • Lotheric-work is slacking @ work ... hehehe
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      • fractalizator
        Lotheric-work: work? It's Shabbat!
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      • Lotheric-work
        not for me ;)
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      • Lotheric-work
        my weekend is thursday/friday
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      • Lotheric-work
        it's monday today!
      • 2013-06-08 15949, 2013

      • Lotheric-work
        hehe
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      • reosarevok
        Standard convention is "English + artist's language"
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      • fractalizator
        is there are a script to relate multiple (>> 10) recordings to one work at once?
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      • reosarevok
        yes
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      • reosarevok
        Well
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      • reosarevok
        Depends
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      • reosarevok
        You mean in the same release, as partial?
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      • reosarevok
        (because for that you don't need a script at all)
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      • fractalizator
        not just one release
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      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • fractalizator
        one work, and many recordings
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      • fractalizator
        from different releases
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      • reosarevok
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      • fractalizator
        thanks, I'll try it
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      • v6lur
        umm, re: "add all teh wikis"
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      • v6lur
        those edits should be downvoted, right?
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      • v6lur
        or has something changed in the last months?
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      • reosarevok
        v6lur: probably should
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      • v6lur
        i mean, info from wikiarticle in user's language (if any) is displayed anyway
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      • reosarevok
        yeah
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      • Lotheric-work
        v6lur: Is it ? so if MB is in french for me and there's a link to EN wiki, it will show in FR for me ?
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, I don't want to vote them all down because I'm watching the football, but maybe someone should :p
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      • reosarevok
        Lotheric-work: IIRC yes
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      • Lotheric-work
        good to know
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      • Lotheric-work
        I'm betting the user doesn't know (I didn't)
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      • v6lur
        Lotheric-work: yes
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      • reosarevok
        Well, it's probably only on beta anyway
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      • v6lur
        on beta, yes
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      • Lotheric-work
        then why downvote it ? :)
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      • Lotheric-work
        it's having a bias towards english imho
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      • v6lur
        because it clutters things, imo
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      • v6lur
        well, pretty much everything is biased towards english on the intertubes