because we can't remove it entirely while there are still recording-level ones
2013-06-22 17333, 2013
nikki
and because of that ticket I linked :)
2013-06-22 17303, 2013
voiceinsideyou
serious question, why do we persist with style changes not supported by the code?
2013-06-22 17321, 2013
voiceinsideyou
i.e this is a pretty terribly unusable situation
2013-06-22 17323, 2013
nikki
we didn't realise the relationship editor couldn't support it
2013-06-22 17340, 2013
voiceinsideyou
moratorium? :)
2013-06-22 17300, 2013
nikki
on what?
2013-06-22 17322, 2013
voiceinsideyou
on removing support for them at recording level
2013-06-22 17308, 2013
nikki
well, we could reallow them, but that wouldn't exactly *fix* anything, because then people would get edit notes saying "this is wrong, it should be on the release!" and they'd be like "well, why did it let me submit them then >(" :/
2013-06-22 17322, 2013
nikki prods bitmap
2013-06-22 17335, 2013
nikki
bitmap: have you seen the ticket I linked, btw?
2013-06-22 17358, 2013
voiceinsideyou
every time i go to do anything on MB there's some unspecified hidden bug or 'gotcha' that you have to be in the special circle to know about. Maybe it was alwas this way, but I'm sure noticing this a lot more now that I've stopped editing so often. It's pretty discouraging
2013-06-22 17316, 2013
voiceinsideyou
is there a separate ticket for "actually display error message for errors in relationship editor"?
2013-06-22 17350, 2013
voiceinsideyou
I'd kind of expect to be able to hover over the relationship with the red squiggle and see some sort of error
(I do think we've always had a lot of little bugs and quirks and whatnot though)
2013-06-22 17328, 2013
nikki
thanks!
2013-06-22 17337, 2013
nikki
bitmap: ^
2013-06-22 17359, 2013
voiceinsideyou
thanks for your help as always
2013-06-22 17307, 2013
nikki
you're welcome
2013-06-22 17319, 2013
voiceinsideyou
still amazes me how fast i can mass-AR a disc these days though, truly a thing of beauty
2013-06-22 17335, 2013
voiceinsideyou
i used to spend hours per alubm :)
2013-06-22 17308, 2013
voiceinsideyou
so niggles aside, life is better than a year ago... even if it is a bit obscure
2013-06-22 17328, 2013
nikki
hehe
2013-06-22 17317, 2013
voiceinsideyou
it's kind of a virtuous cycle too - since it's so much easier to do I think more people are doing it, which means more of the technical artists (recording engineers etc) are pre-created for me which speeds things massively
2013-06-22 17310, 2013
nikki
oh yeah, having to stop and open a new window to add a new artist is the most frustrating part of adding relationships for me
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_5moufl
Does a free SoundCloud download constitute a release?
2013-06-22 17313, 2013
reosarevok
unclear
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reosarevok
Does it have a cover?
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_5moufl
reosarevok: yep
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reosarevok
Then it might be the best choice
2013-06-22 17300, 2013
CatQuest
[08:20] <nikki> oh yeah, having to stop and open a new window to add a new artist is the most frustrating part of adding relationships for me
2013-06-22 17301, 2013
CatQuest
ding
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CatQuest
good morn. erh noon
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JonnyJD
Anybody around here uses a Mac and has an opinion about disc drive names and/or detection?
2013-06-22 17311, 2013
JonnyJD
see LIB-28 then (about using disc drive numers on libdiscid and possibly PICARD, rather than these ever-changing /dev/rdisk* things)
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Krystof
reosarevok: so that link is still not really what I was after, though I'm dealing with it now in any case
2013-06-22 17325, 2013
Krystof
what I would have wanted was a list of all releases on which alessandrini was credited in that way
2013-06-22 17327, 2013
reosarevok
Krystof: well, it's where you edit all the uses of a particular artist credit
2013-06-22 17350, 2013
reosarevok
But yeah, what you say would be great. We just don't have it. There is the "Filter" thingy which I think is still broken :/
2013-06-22 17345, 2013
Krystof
while I'm complaining, all the neat userscripts to save a zillion clicks on fixing artist credits in releases seem to have stopped working. My fault your (collectively) yours?
2013-06-22 17330, 2013
reosarevok
Ours but most are fixed-ish in their latest versions
2013-06-22 17337, 2013
reosarevok
(we updated jquery and it broke tons of stuff)
2013-06-22 17307, 2013
reosarevok
The edit artist credits one sometimes requires changing the "credited as" thing for it to realise you want to change multiple credits and not just that one
2013-06-22 17314, 2013
reosarevok
So, add space, remove space :/
2013-06-22 17300, 2013
Krystof
fair enough. Now I need to understand how to persuade chromium that I am allowed to ask it to run userscripts
2013-06-22 17324, 2013
reosarevok
heh
2013-06-22 17330, 2013
reosarevok
I gave up and installed tampermonkey
2013-06-22 17346, 2013
reosarevok
Less effort than dragging and dropping into the extensions tab every time
2013-06-22 17321, 2013
Krystof
that sounds like a good hint
2013-06-22 17333, 2013
Krystof
alright, now a data representation question for you.
2013-06-22 17329, 2013
Krystof
I am tangentially involved in a small project aiming to demonstrate the potential of linked metadata in music cataloguing
2013-06-22 17325, 2013
Krystof
finding interesting information to present to users of catalogues such as Early Music Online and the European Corpus of Lute Music
2013-06-22 17329, 2013
reosarevok
Sounds interesting
2013-06-22 17334, 2013
reosarevok
What can we do to help? :)
2013-06-22 17346, 2013
Krystof
some of that is going to be finding ways of referring to shall we say mutations of the same work
2013-06-22 17330, 2013
Krystof
case in point, "Tant que vivray", a chanson sometimes attributed to Attaingnant, who arranged it for lute and for lute-and-soloist
2013-06-22 17350, 2013
Krystof
Can I colonize the "work" area for this to see if I can represent what I think needs representing?
