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      • reosarevok
        Well, "important" :)
      • 2012-07-09 19104, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's our standard anyway
      • 2012-07-09 19127, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        sorry, didn't get it
      • 2012-07-09 19146, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        put a dot after the letter on each track? or just on that case because the name is repeated?
      • 2012-07-09 19134, 2012

      • reosarevok
        After the movement numbers
      • 2012-07-09 19147, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (or in this case, movement number and part letter)
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      • reosarevok
        So, movement 1 of symphony N would be "Symphony no. N: I. Whatever"
      • 2012-07-09 19105, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In this case, it is a movement in several parts, so it's Ia. Whatever, Ib. Whatever, etc
      • 2012-07-09 19113, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        1. Symphony no. 7: Ia. Langsam (Adagio) 2. Symphony no. 7: Ib. Nicht schleppen 3. Symphony no. 7: Ic. Allegro risoluto, ma non troppo 4. Symphony no. 7: Id. A tempo (sempre l'istesso) like this right?
      • 2012-07-09 19126, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yep
      • 2012-07-09 19134, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        ;) thanks
      • 2012-07-09 19129, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        oh forgot to change to cd. now if I add another edit just with that without changing the tracks again, will it work? or have to change again the tracks and cancel the other edit?
      • 2012-07-09 19110, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, should work I think
      • 2012-07-09 19125, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Anyway, I've approved them since I want to do two small corrections (of mistakes that were there from the beginning but I just noticed)
      • 2012-07-09 19123, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        :) thanks. already added cd
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      • tri_marianaaf
        another doubt: "6ième mouvement" or "6ième Mouvement" ?
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      • reosarevok
        pffft
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      • reosarevok
        No idea
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      • reosarevok
        I suck at French caps
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      • reosarevok
        You could always do VI. and forget the problems! :p
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      • tri_marianaaf
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      • tri_marianaaf
        it's for this one
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      • tri_marianaaf
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      • reosarevok
        Oh
      • 2012-07-09 19104, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Dunno
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      • reosarevok
        Just leave it like it is
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      • reosarevok
        (lowercased I mean)
      • 2012-07-09 19123, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If some French person wants to change it they can
      • 2012-07-09 19127, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        ok
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      • tri_marianaaf
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      • tri_marianaaf
        sorry, trying to get used to classical ;)
      • 2012-07-09 19155, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        Symphony No. 6 in F major ("Pastoral"), Op. 68: 1. Allegro ma non troppo / Symphony No. 6 in F major ("Pastoral"), Op. 68: 2. Andante molto moto
      • 2012-07-09 19108, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        and the same until track 5
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      • tri_marianaaf
        and then Symphony No. 5 in C minor ("Fate"), Op. 67: 1. Allegro con brio / Symphony No. 5 in C minor ("Fate"), Op. 67: 2. Andante con moto
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      • reosarevok
        I. is better than 1. and we traditionally put "Pastoral" after Op. 68
      • 2012-07-09 19150, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Although I'm not sure if that's a guideline anymore
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      • reosarevok checks
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      • reosarevok
        Not a guideline at the moment, just tradition
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      • tri_marianaaf
        you would change it to "Symphony No. 6 in F major, Op. 68, Pastoral: I. Allegro ma non troppo"
      • 2012-07-09 19117, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ' Op. 68 "Pastoral" ' with no comma and quote marks
      • 2012-07-09 19136, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And again, I guess new guidelines do say op. and no. in lowercase
      • 2012-07-09 19141, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (still getting used to that one...)
      • 2012-07-09 19149, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        ok
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      • tri_marianaaf
        and what about the artist credits?
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      • tri_marianaaf
        and the conductor and all
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      • reosarevok
        huh
      • 2012-07-09 19159, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Not too sure what to do with the Music Director one
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      • reosarevok
        But the release and release group artist should probably be "Ludwig van Beethoven; Tafelmusik Orchestra, Bruno Weil"
      • 2012-07-09 19155, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and the track artist should be just Beethoven)
      • 2012-07-09 19119, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        ok
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      • reosarevok
        And then just add the orchestra and conductor relationships to all recordings
      • 2012-07-09 19144, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, "andante con mot" should be "moto" not "mot"
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      • reosarevok
        So fix that while you're at it :)
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      • reosarevok adds the work relationships to that in the meanwhile
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      • tri_marianaaf
        thanks ;)
      • 2012-07-09 19143, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        already corrected the rest
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      • tri_marianaaf
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      • tri_marianaaf
        discogs has Symphonie Nr. 2 C-Moll Op. 17 »Kleinrussische«
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      • reosarevok
        That's probably good enough
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      • tri_marianaaf
        Nr. instead of no.?
      • 2012-07-09 19154, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        yeah, no. - that's what's on the cover
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      • tri_marianaaf
        Symphonie Nr. 2 C-Moll Op. 17 »Kleinrussische« - don't get the c-moll
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      • tri_marianaaf
        yeah, no. - that's what's on the cover
      • 2012-07-09 19134, 2012

      • reosarevok
        fuck my antivirus and its attempt to restart the OS
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      • tri_marianaaf
        Symphonie Nr. 2 C-Moll Op. 17 »Kleinrussische« - don't get the c-moll
      • 2012-07-09 19103, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Nr. is correct German and C-Moll (or c-Moll, can never remember) is "C minor" in German
      • 2012-07-09 19129, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
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      • Mineo
        well, the problem is that this release has 3 languages on the cover
      • 2012-07-09 19144, 2012

      • Mineo
        so you have to decide which language to use as the primary one in MB
      • 2012-07-09 19120, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        reosarevok: what do you think?
      • 2012-07-09 19154, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        I mean, I'm not comfortable on giving opinion on this
      • 2012-07-09 19142, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        well, the three languages that are present are just translating Kleinrussische right?
      • 2012-07-09 19157, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        german comes first on that
      • 2012-07-09 19109, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        but regarding symphonie no. 2 there is no german there
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      • reosarevok
        Sorry, I had to go pick up 2 boxes of 5kgs of strawberries :D
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      • reosarevok
        I would probably just go full German
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      • reosarevok
        But it wouldn't be "wrong" to keep no. I guess
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      • tri_marianaaf
        "Symphonie Nr. 2 C-Moll Op. 17 »Kleinrussische«: I. Andante Sostenuto - Allegro Vivo"
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      • tri_marianaaf
        for the tracks
      • 2012-07-09 19109, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        since it's german, leave "Nr." or "nr." ?
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      • tri_marianaaf
        and for the release title.. it is "Symphonie No. 2 »Kleinrussische • Little Russian • Petite Russie« • 1812 - Ouvertüre (Berliner Philharmoniker feat. conductor: Herbert von Karajan)"
      • 2012-07-09 19116, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        Berliner Philharmoniker + Herbert von Karajan go to the artist credits and do I leave the rest like it is? or "Symphonie Nr. 2 C-Moll Op. 17 »Kleinrussische« / Ouverture Solennelle »1812« Op. 49" ?
      • 2012-07-09 19158, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Nr., but "sostenuto" and "vivo" (since that part's Italian)
      • 2012-07-09 19118, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And the rest, like your second example I'd say
      • 2012-07-09 19125, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        ok
      • 2012-07-09 19126, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        thanks~
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      • derr84
        What's the difference between the single and the song just posted on the artist website? He can do it every day. Is it all singles? I don't think so. How can I move a single to standalone recording?
      • 2012-07-09 19151, 2012

      • ianweller
        if it's a single, there's already a recording
      • 2012-07-09 19151, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You remove the release
      • 2012-07-09 19155, 2012

      • ianweller
        you can just delete the release
      • 2012-07-09 19132, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If there's a download/stream link or something, you can also link the recording to that URL, always nice
      • 2012-07-09 19142, 2012

      • derr84
        If I remove a release the recordings remain?
      • 2012-07-09 19146, 2012

      • ianweller
        yes
      • 2012-07-09 19107, 2012

      • derr84
        thanks
      • 2012-07-09 19143, 2012

      • reosarevok
        They're only removed if the original add edit fails or is canceled
      • 2012-07-09 19155, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and I think they stay even in that case, if they have relationships)
      • 2012-07-09 19103, 2012

      • Freso
        If someone's credites as "technician" on a recording... == engineer?
      • 2012-07-09 19112, 2012

      • Freso
        *credited
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      • reosarevok
        I guess so
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      • Freso
        Didn't we use to have a technician AR?
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      • ocharles
        ocharles has changed the topic to: MusicBrainz.org | Developers: #musicbrainz-devel | Latest Release: 2012-07-09 - http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=1481 | IRC Log: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org | http://scheduling.ocharles.org.uk/ is back! | New Soundtrack Style is OFFICIAL!
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      • v6lur
        i wonder why http://i18n.mbsandbox.org/ keeps showing up in german, when my browser's locale is set to estonian...
      • 2012-07-09 19119, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae ^ when you're around
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      • Freso
        v6lur: Is the languages set to Estonian as well? (Ie., not the language of the browser, but the languages the browser requests.)
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      • v6lur
        Freso: yes, that's what i meant
      • 2012-07-09 19121, 2012

      • v6lur
        (although the browser itself -- the whole system locale, even -- is set to estonian, too)
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      • reosarevok
        v6lur or Freso: do you know how No. is in Norwegian?
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: "No." as in number?
      • 2012-07-09 19151, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yes
      • 2012-07-09 19156, 2012

      • Freso
        CatCat: ^
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      • reosarevok is trying to make a slightly smaller mess out of Peer Gynt
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      • Freso
        It's "nr." in Danish.
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      • reosarevok
        I didn't ask him because I thought he's not around - if you're around, do say, CatCat :)
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      • Freso
        It might be same in Norwegian. CatCat would know.
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      • reosarevok will use nr. for now and it can be changed later
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      • v6lur
        reosarevok: iirc it's "nr."
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      • hawke_2
        Since when is #mb-devel more active than #mb?
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      • derr84
        could music video releases be added?
      • 2012-07-09 19159, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Sure
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      • demosdemon
        and it's meeting day
      • 2012-07-09 19123, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        when people have problems to solve :P
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      • reosarevok
        Could I get these merged so I can then merge the recordings which are duplicated in other releases? :) http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18293293
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      • reosarevok
        I love how it claims to be the suite, but is not
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      • reosarevok
        It's just taken from a full recording of Peer Gynt with choirs and everything
      • 2012-07-09 19129, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and the same for the Sigurd Jorsalfar which isn't the orchestral suite, but bits of the full recording)
      • 2012-07-09 19157, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The DG site is now more honest about it
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      • reosarevok
        But the original release clearly wasn't http://www.discogs.com/release/3104578
      • 2012-07-09 19134, 2012

      • Freso
        demosdemon: I'm adding a small bunch of music videos from YouTube.
      • 2012-07-09 19149, 2012

      • Freso
        s/demosdemon/derr84
      • 2012-07-09 19134, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Third vote on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18293293 please? 8)
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      • reosarevok would hate to have to wait another hour to close all those tabs
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      • reosarevok starts adding some stuff from http://www.youtube.com/user/TMKKVIDEO to keep with the video-adding theme