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      • culinko
        nope, the other one had some weird characters in picard
      • 2012-07-20 20233, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        and you couldn't fix it by editing the other release?
      • 2012-07-20 20210, 2012

      • culinko
        the relase looked fine in mb, right encoding etc. it was only bad in picard
      • 2012-07-20 20225, 2012

      • culinko
      • 2012-07-20 20229, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        ok, I've approved the remaining recording artist changes.
      • 2012-07-20 20237, 2012

      • culinko
        thanks a lot
      • 2012-07-20 20214, 2012

      • Freso
        Hm. Should the frontpage of a booklet be "Front+Booklet"?
      • 2012-07-20 20220, 2012

      • Freso
        (Cover art)
      • 2012-07-20 20221, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        sure
      • 2012-07-20 20239, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        if it's part of the booklet and the front cover of the album (like a typical CD), then sure
      • 2012-07-20 20245, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        only put 'Front' on an image that contains *just* the front, tho
      • 2012-07-20 20205, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        e.g. don't use it on a scan that has multiple booklet pages
      • 2012-07-20 20214, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        because otherwise it's confusing :)
      • 2012-07-20 20225, 2012

      • Freso
        ianmcorvidae: If it's "Bastion_CDART_01.jpg" out of _04, that counts too, right? :p
      • 2012-07-20 20205, 2012

      • Freso
        kepstin-work: Sure. ;)
      • 2012-07-20 20202, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        haha
      • 2012-07-20 20258, 2012

      • Freso
        Uhm. I'm just doing it now, but...
      • 2012-07-20 20220, 2012

      • Freso
        On a digital release, isn't it fine to use the filename of the included art as the cover art comment? >_>
      • 2012-07-20 20226, 2012

      • Freso
      • 2012-07-20 20228, 2012

      • jacobbrett
        No, that's for disambiguation.
      • 2012-07-20 20238, 2012

      • Freso
        Hm. Where do I go to note the filename then?
      • 2012-07-20 20251, 2012

      • Freso
        Since that's kind of lost in the upload...
      • 2012-07-20 20203, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        release annotation, I guess
      • 2012-07-20 20234, 2012

      • Freso
        Also, the filename does disambiguate from similarly looking covers - e.g. scans from the CD release.
      • 2012-07-20 20255, 2012

      • Freso
        Though I guess I should note that it's the filename, and not just write it.
      • 2012-07-20 20256, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        edit note is the other obvious place, also
      • 2012-07-20 20231, 2012

      • Freso
        But you can't see edits per-piece-of-cover art.
      • 2012-07-20 20254, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        sure, but they appear on the listing for the release
      • 2012-07-20 20259, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        which is where any sensible person would look :P
      • 2012-07-20 20204, 2012

      • Freso
        So while right now that's not a problem, I can easily see how in the future that could be tricky.
      • 2012-07-20 20228, 2012

      • Freso
        To wade through a bunch of CA adds/removals/edits for a given release.
      • 2012-07-20 20259, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        sure, but people do that constantly for edit listings generally in order to find that sort of info
      • 2012-07-20 20210, 2012

      • Freso
        Since the displayed image in the edit listing will very closely resemble eachother when they're scaled down.
      • 2012-07-20 20254, 2012

      • Freso
        Still, I can't see why noting the filename (and that it's the filename) isn't a good disambiguation.
      • 2012-07-20 20221, 2012

      • Freso
        Speaking of. The Bastion Steam OST download has both the _01.jpg of the cover, but it also has "cover.jpg".
      • 2012-07-20 20241, 2012

      • Freso
        The cover.jpg is a lower-res than _01, but otherwise the same image (AFAICT).
      • 2012-07-20 20251, 2012

      • Freso
        Should cover.jpg be uploaded/added?
      • 2012-07-20 20216, 2012

      • hawke_
        No.
      • 2012-07-20 20258, 2012

      • iliketurtles joined the channel
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      • 2012-07-20 20254, 2012

      • zmanji
        Does anyone know how to get the acoustid of an ogg file and link it to a musicbrainz id?
      • 2012-07-20 20204, 2012

      • culinko
        hmm, if i want to make disambiguation like "R&B singer", is "R&B" correct? or should i decapitalize it as "r&b"? or "R n' B" / "r n' b"?
      • 2012-07-20 20258, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        the disambiguation is user-readable text, just do whatever looks best :)
      • 2012-07-20 20217, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        in English, things like R&B are usually capitalized.
      • 2012-07-20 20233, 2012

      • culinko
        okay, thanks. i will stick with R&B
      • 2012-07-20 20208, 2012

      • hawke_
        Why do people ask questions and then leave after 3 minutes?
      • 2012-07-20 20225, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        because they don't want answers.
      • 2012-07-20 20257, 2012

      • kepstin-work didn't notice the person - the answer would have been 'load it into a recent version of picard' of course.
      • 2012-07-20 20220, 2012

      • derr84
      • 2012-07-20 20227, 2012

      • derr84
        :(
      • 2012-07-20 20226, 2012

      • hawke_
      • 2012-07-20 20240, 2012

      • bitmap
        hawke_: hi
      • 2012-07-20 20236, 2012

      • hawke_
        hey bitmap…Just wondering if your “relate works to recordings from a release” userscript is doing something silly like validating every date every time you edit any date…
      • 2012-07-20 20257, 2012

      • hawke_
        I noticed that it seems to get slower and slower as I have more and more edit things open.
      • 2012-07-20 20242, 2012

      • bitmap
        not that I know of. I'll check it out
      • 2012-07-20 20250, 2012

      • hawke_
        I’m just doing a relatively simple thing:, copy-paste a date, backspace to change the day part in the begin date.
      • 2012-07-20 20235, 2012

      • hawke_
        and it goes from “quick” down to ”>10s” as i get more edit boxes open.
      • 2012-07-20 20200, 2012

      • bitmap
        I'm not noticing any slowdown like that myself
      • 2012-07-20 20229, 2012

      • hawke_
        Let me see if I can find the release. The number of edit boxes was pretty large.
      • 2012-07-20 20223, 2012

      • hawke_
      • 2012-07-20 20241, 2012

      • hawke_
        Opening edit boxes one at a time, not “edit all”
      • 2012-07-20 20252, 2012

      • hawke_
        by the time I get to the end of the second disc it’s ~4s
      • 2012-07-20 20219, 2012

      • hawke_
        (to paste in "2001-04-05" and hit "backspace, 4"
      • 2012-07-20 20236, 2012

      • hawke_
        (the backspace-4 is what takes so long)
      • 2012-07-20 20258, 2012

      • hawke_
        In Chrome, here.
      • 2012-07-20 20237, 2012

      • bitmap
        still not seeing that, so I'm not sure what to profile :/
      • 2012-07-20 20215, 2012

      • noobie pokes bitmaü
      • 2012-07-20 20221, 2012

      • noobie
        bitmap* ^^
      • 2012-07-20 20206, 2012

      • bitmap
        ow
      • 2012-07-20 20223, 2012

      • noobie
        may i offer the following feature request for picard ? ;p
      • 2012-07-20 20240, 2012

      • noobie
        a gui option to add custom tags to TAG_NAMES
      • 2012-07-20 20208, 2012

      • bitmap
        might as well just let people add custom tags in the tag editor again
      • 2012-07-20 20231, 2012

      • noobie
        even better..or let's say crucial :)
      • 2012-07-20 20247, 2012

      • noobie
        s/crucial/vital
      • 2012-07-20 20251, 2012

      • hawke_
        bitmap: Good news: I just tried using the javascripting profile feature of Chrome and found that it was a different extension that just happened to interact badly with your script.
      • 2012-07-20 20226, 2012

      • hawke_
        bitmap: Is there any reason not to let people add custom tags in the tag editor?
      • 2012-07-20 20233, 2012

      • bitmap
        aha :)
      • 2012-07-20 20245, 2012

      • hawke_
        bitmap: If you’re curious, the extension was “tactical URL expander” which expands shortened URLs. No idea why that would cause any problems, but there you have it.
      • 2012-07-20 20213, 2012

      • bitmap
        hawke_: not really. I think it was removed becuase there was no good UI for it
      • 2012-07-20 20238, 2012

      • noobie
        ??
      • 2012-07-20 20259, 2012

      • hawke_
        Isn’t it exactly the same as the current 'add tag' interface, but allowing a custom tag name?
      • 2012-07-20 20209, 2012

      • noobie
        yes,that's how it worked in the past-1.0 version
      • 2012-07-20 20219, 2012

      • bitmap
        oh, I wanted it to be part of the "add new tag" dialog, but it broke the autocompletion in a very bad way. I don't remember how
      • 2012-07-20 20210, 2012

      • hawke_
        I can see it being a problem for some things, given how tag mapping would have to work.
      • 2012-07-20 20226, 2012

      • hawke_
        (i.e. the internal Picard tag names don’t match the actual tags used)
      • 2012-07-20 20242, 2012

      • noobie
        well,tag handling changed a bit since 1.0 i think
      • 2012-07-20 20221, 2012

      • hawke_
        Which reminds me: It is deeply annoying trying to figure out what tags to preserve when Picard doesn’t show the actual tag name. :-)
      • 2012-07-20 20255, 2012

      • derr84
        now I'm starting to edit recordings and I see six-digit number in 'Length'. trying to save and see 'Not a valid time. Must be in the format MM:SS'
      • 2012-07-20 20215, 2012

      • derr84
        ??
      • 2012-07-20 20258, 2012

      • derr84
        (I'm adding Disambiguation)
      • 2012-07-20 20202, 2012

      • hawke_
        derr84: Known bug. Try using beta, it works there.
      • 2012-07-20 20205, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah; use beta or convert that number to MM:SS (the number you're seeing is a number of milliseconds)
      • 2012-07-20 20252, 2012

      • hawke_
        Sadly it’s not the first time that bug has happened.
      • 2012-07-20 20245, 2012

      • derr84
        I don't convert, just copy/past length and it works)
      • 2012-07-20 20246, 2012

      • murk joined the channel
      • 2012-07-20 20258, 2012

      • murk
        hi
      • 2012-07-20 20200, 2012

      • hawke_
        Now that’s just stupid. :-)
      • 2012-07-20 20201, 2012

      • derr84
        how can I use beta? I don't understand. it's for testing only, isn't it?
      • 2012-07-20 20211, 2012

      • hawke_
        derr84: It’s for testing, but it works with the live db
      • 2012-07-20 20218, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
      • 2012-07-20 20226, 2012

      • murk
        i have a question about picard, when I save changes made to some files, they dont get saved in the file
      • 2012-07-20 20226, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        it's not usually different in many appreciable ways
      • 2012-07-20 20238, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        except bugs get fixed there first, of course :)
      • 2012-07-20 20241, 2012

      • MBChatLogger
      • 2012-07-20 20241, 2012

      • hawke_
        test.mb.org is the one that is different.
      • 2012-07-20 20254, 2012

      • hawke_
        murk: What kind of file? What kind of changes?
      • 2012-07-20 20215, 2012

      • noobie
        which file extensions?
      • 2012-07-20 20247, 2012

      • murk
        mp3 files
      • 2012-07-20 20214, 2012

      • noobie
        are they write protected?
      • 2012-07-20 20221, 2012

      • murk
        it tries to change the Length and Original Release Date
      • 2012-07-20 20235, 2012

      • noobie
        well,chaning length is not possible i guess
      • 2012-07-20 20236, 2012

      • murk
        i've seen that come up on a google search but as far as I'm aware they aren't
      • 2012-07-20 20238, 2012

      • hawke_
        murk: It can’t change the length
      • 2012-07-20 20251, 2012

      • noobie
        ORD should be though
      • 2012-07-20 20257, 2012

      • hawke_
        I’m not sure if ID3 tags allow the original date
      • 2012-07-20 20209, 2012

      • murk
        that's possible
      • 2012-07-20 20234, 2012

      • murk
        but on another occasion it tries to change the producer label
      • 2012-07-20 20240, 2012

      • murk
        which should be allowed
      • 2012-07-20 20243, 2012

      • murk
        but that does not work either
      • 2012-07-20 20212, 2012

      • noobie
        it worked for the remaining tags?
      • 2012-07-20 20220, 2012

      • noobie
        or not at all ?
      • 2012-07-20 20234, 2012

      • hawke_
        murk: See if you’re using id3 v2.3 or id3 v2.4
      • 2012-07-20 20251, 2012

      • hawke_
        Some stuff can’t be saved in 2.3
      • 2012-07-20 20259, 2012

      • murk
        2.3
      • 2012-07-20 20209, 2012

      • bitmap
        I think in 0.16 originaldate wasn't saved by default. in 1.0 it is
      • 2012-07-20 20210, 2012

      • hawke_
        Try switching to 2.4
      • 2012-07-20 20235, 2012

      • noobie
        and to 1.0^^
      • 2012-07-20 20204, 2012

      • hawke_
        That too. bitmap: Wouldn’t it just not show up in the list if it wasn’t going to be saved?
      • 2012-07-20 20238, 2012

      • bitmap
        hm, maybe
      • 2012-07-20 20248, 2012

      • murk
        I'm sorry, change to 1.0 where?
      • 2012-07-20 20256, 2012

      • hawke_
        murk: Version 1.0 of Picard.
      • 2012-07-20 20207, 2012

      • noobie
        the most recent one
      • 2012-07-20 20210, 2012

      • murk
        ah, ye i got that
      • 2012-07-20 20228, 2012

      • murk
        dled today
      • 2012-07-20 20251, 2012

      • murk
        but with 2.4 it looks like the Producer Label is completely gone, when i look at the files through the explorer
      • 2012-07-20 20210, 2012

      • murk
        i mean, erased
      • 2012-07-20 20228, 2012

      • noobie
        well,there is only an record label tag
      • 2012-07-20 20232, 2012

      • noobie
        if that's the same as producer label
      • 2012-07-20 20249, 2012

      • hawke_
        murk: Some apps don’t know how to read id3v2.4
      • 2012-07-20 20228, 2012

      • murk
        err
      • 2012-07-20 20233, 2012

      • murk
        i just mean like, the publisher
      • 2012-07-20 20255, 2012

      • murk
        yea record label
      • 2012-07-20 20202, 2012

      • noobie
        does it show the label tag in picard?
      • 2012-07-20 20203, 2012

      • murk
        yes
      • 2012-07-20 20220, 2012

      • murk
        i think winamp should support id3v2.4 right?
      • 2012-07-20 20236, 2012

      • noobie
        i hope so
      • 2012-07-20 20238, 2012

      • noobie
        :d
      • 2012-07-20 20221, 2012

      • murk
        ok so, the original recordlabel of a certain album is
      • 2012-07-20 20222, 2012

      • murk
        Virgin Records America/Immortal Vinyl Records
      • 2012-07-20 20232, 2012

      • murk
        picard wants to change it to