14:02 PM
Wizzcat
I guess reject if if not clear majority is sane, but +4 seems a bit excessive
2012-06-21 17300, 2012
14:04 PM
reosarevok
Where are you seeing it? :)
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14:04 PM
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14:04 PM
Freso
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14:05 PM
Wizzcat
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14:05 PM
reosarevok
Oh
2012-06-21 17339, 2012
14:05 PM
Wizzcat
2012-06-21 17314, 2012
14:07 PM
reosarevok is trying to find the code
2012-06-21 17325, 2012
14:07 PM
reosarevok
But finding anything in our code is HARD
2012-06-21 17338, 2012
14:07 PM
Freso
reosarevok: "git grep" :D
2012-06-21 17302, 2012
14:08 PM
reosarevok
Freso: I know... but I was hoping to avoid connecting to the sandbox :D
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14:08 PM
Freso
reosarevok: "git clone" :D
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14:08 PM
reosarevok connects to the sandbox
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14:08 PM
Freso is feeling very helpful :p
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14:09 PM
reosarevok
Of course, it's also hard to know what exactly I'm looking for
2012-06-21 17307, 2012
14:09 PM
kepstin-work
what, you don't have a local clone of the mbs just sitting around?
2012-06-21 17309, 2012
14:09 PM
reosarevok
But I guess I can try "quality"
2012-06-21 17320, 2012
14:09 PM
reosarevok
kepstin-work: not in this laptop
2012-06-21 17322, 2012
14:12 PM
Freso
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14:13 PM
Freso
("This is Ibiza" releases in general needs to get cleaned up a bit...)
2012-06-21 17342, 2012
14:13 PM
reosarevok
Cue comment on Ibiza being a traditional hippie paradise
2012-06-21 17322, 2012
14:15 PM
Wizzcat
trance comps are pretty far down on my list of things that need fixing :P
2012-06-21 17332, 2012
14:17 PM
Freso
Wizzcat: Well, their not exactly my top priority either - but I just stumbled across them, as a reggae compilation CD's freedb lookup returned one of these ibiza ones as "(disc 2)", so I went to see if I could merge it together to a proper NGS release.
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
14:17 PM
Freso
I couldn't, but I found this other release that I could. :p
2012-06-21 17313, 2012
14:18 PM
reosarevok
So, nikki found the code
2012-06-21 17320, 2012
14:18 PM
Freso
2012-06-21 17325, 2012
14:18 PM
reosarevok
It does pass on expiration with one yes vote
2012-06-21 17334, 2012
14:20 PM
kepstin-work
reosarevok: is that also true of the edit to convert something at high data quality to normal?
2012-06-21 17340, 2012
14:20 PM
kepstin-work would assume so.
2012-06-21 17347, 2012
14:20 PM
reosarevok
It does seem like it
2012-06-21 17357, 2012
14:20 PM
reosarevok
I linked to the code on style anyway
2012-06-21 17317, 2012
14:21 PM
kepstin-work
right, so I like the "rename it to protected and reduce the immediate apply threshold to 3 votes" then :)
2012-06-21 17345, 2012
14:21 PM
Wizzcat
Freso: I was just kidding, lord knows I've edited my fair share of weird music
2012-06-21 17317, 2012
14:22 PM
Freso
Wizzcat: :)
2012-06-21 17325, 2012
14:22 PM
Freso
So have I... So have I.
2012-06-21 17316, 2012
14:23 PM
Wizzcat
trance is extra evil though since there are so many dumb DJs who don't have existing artists in the db, not to mention mashups
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14:23 PM
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14:23 PM
reosarevok
Wizzcat: poor trance DJs. They're not (always) dumb. Just not very original
2012-06-21 17353, 2012
14:26 PM
Wizzcat
really? high quality edits pass with only one vote? that was less harsh than I expected
2012-06-21 17318, 2012
14:28 PM
Freso
kepstin-work, Wizzcat, reosarevok - thanks! :D
2012-06-21 17334, 2012
14:28 PM
kepstin-work
Wizzcat: I think the point is just to make sure that they've been reviewed by *somebody*
2012-06-21 17350, 2012
14:28 PM
kepstin-work
that 5-votes required to instant-apply thing is just stupid.
2012-06-21 17349, 2012
14:29 PM
Wizzcat
reading that code high quality only comes into apply when edits expire without votes
2012-06-21 17350, 2012
14:30 PM
Wizzcat
s/apply/play
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14:38 PM
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14:42 PM
reosarevok
I guess the edits to change quality should also become normal 14-day, 3-vote ones
2012-06-21 17358, 2012
14:42 PM
reosarevok
(dunno if "change to protected" and "change to unprotected" should need at least 1 vote to pass too)
2012-06-21 17304, 2012
14:48 PM
tri_marianaaf
hey"
2012-06-21 17315, 2012
14:48 PM
tri_marianaaf
I've been trying to find info that comproves this RG
2012-06-21 17316, 2012
14:48 PM
tri_marianaaf
2012-06-21 17320, 2012
14:48 PM
tri_marianaaf
but no success
2012-06-21 17325, 2012
14:48 PM
tri_marianaaf
any opinions?
2012-06-21 17310, 2012
14:51 PM
reosarevok
"Uh, is that country, quick, run away"? :p
2012-06-21 17357, 2012
14:51 PM
tri_marianaaf
didn't get it
2012-06-21 17307, 2012
14:52 PM
tri_marianaaf
if you're asking yes it is country
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
14:52 PM
reosarevok
Nah, just that I like you more when you edit rap :p
2012-06-21 17343, 2012
14:52 PM
reosarevok
I have never heard of this stuff... I see drsaunde has done a couple small edits on it - you don't happen to have any info on this, right?
2012-06-21 17345, 2012
14:52 PM
tri_marianaaf
oh thanks ;)
2012-06-21 17353, 2012
14:52 PM
reosarevok
(guessing he doesn't...)
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14:53 PM
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14:53 PM
tri_marianaaf
can I remove it?
2012-06-21 17322, 2012
14:53 PM
reosarevok
And the original editor signed up, added this, and disappeared
2012-06-21 17301, 2012
14:55 PM
reosarevok
Dunno about removing it, but I'd say at least change to low quality
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
14:56 PM
tri_marianaaf
2012-06-21 17333, 2012
14:56 PM
tri_marianaaf
this seems that the editor was adding a compilation but only added the first track
2012-06-21 17352, 2012
14:56 PM
tri_marianaaf
but even though I can't find it so well, ...
2012-06-21 17309, 2012
14:57 PM
tri_marianaaf
and don't worry, will be editing hip hop in a few seconds ;)
2012-06-21 17355, 2012
14:57 PM
reosarevok
Good :p
2012-06-21 17358, 2012
14:58 PM
reosarevok is happy to see more people editing US hip hop
2012-06-21 17315, 2012
14:59 PM
reosarevok
(which is far from my stronger area)
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
15:01 PM
tri_marianaaf
I have been editing as I go. meaning when I add a new release I try to correct the things on the related artists. but sometimes I don't verify. is there anyway to verify what is there to be done?
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
15:01 PM
tri_marianaaf
like, featuring on the track name that should go to the artist credits and things like this
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
15:01 PM
reosarevok
What do you mean?
2012-06-21 17346, 2012
15:01 PM
reosarevok
Oh
2012-06-21 17353, 2012
15:01 PM
reosarevok
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
15:02 PM
tri_marianaaf
exactly
2012-06-21 17348, 2012
15:02 PM
tri_marianaaf
thanks :=
2012-06-21 17349, 2012
15:02 PM
tri_marianaaf
:)
2012-06-21 17314, 2012
15:03 PM
tri_marianaaf
2012-06-21 17356, 2012
15:03 PM
tri_marianaaf
2012-06-21 17310, 2012
15:04 PM
reosarevok
:)
2012-06-21 17315, 2012
15:04 PM
reosarevok
That's why I don't use them, yes :p
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
15:04 PM
kepstin-work
keep in mind that since the reports are automatically generated, each entry in them has to be individually and manually reviewed.
2012-06-21 17327, 2012
15:04 PM
tri_marianaaf
yes that's what I was thinking
2012-06-21 17342, 2012
15:04 PM
kepstin-work
e.g. there's a fair number of groups that have '&' in the name and aren't collaborations.
2012-06-21 17355, 2012
15:04 PM
tri_marianaaf
yes, naturally
2012-06-21 17359, 2012
15:04 PM
reosarevok
For the feat. one, though, 99% need changes
2012-06-21 17305, 2012
15:05 PM
tri_marianaaf
yes
2012-06-21 17311, 2012
15:05 PM
tri_marianaaf
so so many
2012-06-21 17313, 2012
15:05 PM
tri_marianaaf
:/
2012-06-21 17314, 2012
15:05 PM
reosarevok
either moving to the artist credits or, if they're classical releases, moving to the new classical style
2012-06-21 17347, 2012
15:05 PM
tri_marianaaf
I never edited classical so I guess that if I have to I will have to study first :)
2012-06-21 17347, 2012
15:05 PM
reosarevok
Well, the point is that the feat. in titles thing was the "correct" option (or well, the least bad we had) for years
2012-06-21 17356, 2012
15:05 PM
reosarevok
So there's loads of stuff to move
2012-06-21 17308, 2012
15:06 PM
tri_marianaaf
yes I assumed that
2012-06-21 17332, 2012
15:06 PM
tri_marianaaf
I will continue on correcting as I go
2012-06-21 17332, 2012
15:06 PM
reosarevok
And you can ignore classical, really. You have more than enough fixes for a lifetime without having to touch it
2012-06-21 17343, 2012
15:06 PM
reosarevok
(if only I listened to my own advice sometimes...)
2012-06-21 17356, 2012
15:06 PM
tri_marianaaf
and if I have extra time I will try to contribute using this reports.
2012-06-21 17306, 2012
15:07 PM
kepstin-work
2012-06-21 17316, 2012
15:07 PM
tri_marianaaf
ahaha
2012-06-21 17339, 2012
15:07 PM
tri_marianaaf
oh that's right
2012-06-21 17350, 2012
15:07 PM
tri_marianaaf
2 pages
2012-06-21 17308, 2012
15:09 PM
tri_marianaaf
it is impossible to have a list of artists that don't have their discographies completed right?
2012-06-21 17318, 2012
15:09 PM
tri_marianaaf
(wikipedian, yes ;)
2012-06-21 17312, 2012
15:10 PM
reosarevok
Pretty hard
2012-06-21 17356, 2012
15:10 PM
reosarevok
But in US hip hop at least, my bet is "most"
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
15:11 PM
kepstin-work
if we could figure that out automatically, we'd probably be able to add the missing stuff automatically, as well :)
2012-06-21 17337, 2012
15:11 PM
reosarevok
kepstin-work: not necessarily
2012-06-21 17323, 2012
15:12 PM
reosarevok
I mean, we can compare what we have for an artist to what discogs has, or even (slightly more complicated) to the discography in the wikipedia page
2012-06-21 17349, 2012
15:12 PM
reosarevok
But discogs imports almost always need some human corrections, and wikipedia often lists only titles
2012-06-21 17309, 2012
15:13 PM
kepstin-work
but that doesn't work in general; you'd need to have a discogs or wikipedia link, then assume that the discogs/wikipedia links are complete
2012-06-21 17337, 2012
15:13 PM
reosarevok
Ok, call it "artists for which we seem to miss stuff" :p
2012-06-21 17309, 2012
15:14 PM
reosarevok
Adding more stuff is useful even if that doesn't complete it, after all
2012-06-21 17313, 2012
15:14 PM
tri_marianaaf
don't know if the goal of MB is to "clomplete" artists but if it is maybe it's necessary to verify each one but that's soooo complicated
2012-06-21 17328, 2012
15:14 PM
tri_marianaaf
complete
2012-06-21 17339, 2012
15:14 PM
reosarevok
Yeah, "complete" is a very subjective and complicated thing
2012-06-21 17348, 2012
15:14 PM
reosarevok
"Add all you can find" is easier
2012-06-21 17304, 2012
15:15 PM
tri_marianaaf
yes
2012-06-21 17305, 2012
15:15 PM
reosarevok
I mean, the goal is to have EVERYTHING by EVERYONE
2012-06-21 17312, 2012
15:15 PM
tri_marianaaf
ok ;)
2012-06-21 17325, 2012
15:15 PM
tri_marianaaf
well will continue on editing
2012-06-21 17328, 2012
15:15 PM
tri_marianaaf
thanks ;)
2012-06-21 17338, 2012
15:15 PM
reosarevok
But that's a platonic goal more than a realistic one, so "more and better" is more like it :)
2012-06-21 17342, 2012
15:15 PM
reosarevok
Cool!
2012-06-21 17323, 2012
15:23 PM
tri_marianaaf
2012-06-21 17300, 2012
15:24 PM
tri_marianaaf
2012-06-21 17310, 2012
15:24 PM
tri_marianaaf
it seems that there are two releases
2012-06-21 17320, 2012
15:24 PM
tri_marianaaf
and on that release we have both
2012-06-21 17331, 2012
15:24 PM
tri_marianaaf
how do I split that into two?
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
15:25 PM
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15:26 PM
reosarevok
Badly
2012-06-21 17323, 2012
15:26 PM
reosarevok looks at the history, mehs
2012-06-21 17327, 2012
15:26 PM
MJ
so, I was temporarily distracted and didn't realize the track parser had not, in fact, detected the track lengths and included them as part of the track titles instead.
2012-06-21 17353, 2012
15:26 PM
MJ
all sorted now, but can I canvas for a few well-placed votes on the edits?
2012-06-21 17304, 2012
15:27 PM
MJ
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15:27 PM
tri_marianaaf
reosarevok yes, noticed that you tried to convince the editor to comment the edits with no success.
2012-06-21 17320, 2012
15:27 PM
reosarevok
tri_marianaaf: add a new release for one of them (preferably the digital)
2012-06-21 17329, 2012
15:27 PM
MJ
2012-06-21 17330, 2012
15:27 PM
reosarevok
(the 4xtrack digital, I mean)
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
15:27 PM
tri_marianaaf
it seems that both of them are digital
2012-06-21 17346, 2012
15:27 PM
reosarevok
(reuse the medium)
2012-06-21 17312, 2012
15:28 PM
reosarevok
MJ: approved
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
15:28 PM
MJ
I'd argue for a 'grace period' even, where editors get to correct mistakes like these within a 15 minute window, say, without needing votes.
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
15:28 PM
reosarevok
tri_marianaaf: yeah, might be :/
2012-06-21 17322, 2012
15:28 PM
MJ
thanks reosarevok
2012-06-21 17344, 2012
15:28 PM
reosarevok
MJ: you're not the first. Problem, it seems, is that it's easier to propose than code :)
2012-06-21 17304, 2012
15:29 PM
MJ
Yeah, I am aware of it.
2012-06-21 17316, 2012
15:29 PM
tri_marianaaf
a bandacamp release is worldwide right?
2012-06-21 17319, 2012
15:29 PM
reosarevok
Yeah
