but let's say you have a limited bandwith on your server and you'd like to provide a download of release abc you could use the ia
2012-06-07 15957, 2012
noobie
but only for mp3 files
2012-06-07 15928, 2012
warp
I don't see that as a problem.
2012-06-07 15942, 2012
noobie
if you want to provide lossless audio it is
2012-06-07 15952, 2012
warp
it would be nicer for clients to have an easy way to download lossless audio
2012-06-07 15927, 2012
warp
but the internet archive doesn't seem intended for your personal hosting needs. if you want to host lossless audio for others to download, do that yourself.
2012-06-07 15937, 2012
noobie
but it aims to provide easily accessible data and information for everyone
2012-06-07 15959, 2012
noobie
so i don't see why it should not serve the purpose of distributing and sharing information
2012-06-07 15920, 2012
warp
the main goal is to preserve that information, easily accessible should be viewed within that context.
2012-06-07 15929, 2012
noobie
prolly
2012-06-07 15941, 2012
noobie
but isn't mb doing that too
2012-06-07 15953, 2012
noobie
by using their server to store the cover art..
2012-06-07 15915, 2012
warp
and viewed like that, they more than meet that goal by having regular HTTP downloads, unrestricted by geographic IP bans or passwords or anything like that.
2012-06-07 15920, 2012
noobie
ts purposes include offering permanent access for researchers, historians, scholars, people with disabilities, and the general public to historical collections that exist in digital format.
2012-06-07 15933, 2012
warp
noobie: the coverartarchive is a collaboration between the internet archive and musicbrainz. again, I think the main focus for the archive here is to preserve that information, and the secondary goal is to make it easily accessible to all.
2012-06-07 15946, 2012
noobie
i see
2012-06-07 15923, 2012
warp
the goal is not to allow third parties to make stuff easily accessible through the archive.
2012-06-07 15927, 2012
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2012-06-07 15931, 2012
noobie
i guess i misunderstood their objective
2012-06-07 15911, 2012
warp
so I think it is not a problem that the archive makes stuff easily accessible in a way they think is suitable, but which is inflexible for third-parties to embed in their own websites.
2012-06-07 15957, 2012
warp
noobie: obviously I don't speak for the archive, I'm just giving you my opinion on this :)
2012-06-07 15903, 2012
noobie
well,i do not consider it that easily imo,but ok,i accept that
2012-06-07 15907, 2012
warp
I could be totally wrong.
2012-06-07 15924, 2012
noobie
well,i just read at their page
2012-06-07 15942, 2012
noobie
i guess you are right,
2012-06-07 15901, 2012
ianmcorvidae
honestly, the IA is horribly understaffed
2012-06-07 15902, 2012
warp
perhaps not offering .flac as a .zip is just something they forgot or they didn't have time yet to implement.
2012-06-07 15911, 2012
ianmcorvidae
if you want their stuff to be more accessible, you should probably volunteer to write it :P
2012-06-07 15928, 2012
noobie
well,that feature is really easy..
2012-06-07 15958, 2012
ianmcorvidae
only if you have the time to turn it on/implement it/whatever
2012-06-07 15902, 2012
ianmcorvidae
which they almost certainly do not
2012-06-07 15929, 2012
noobie
hm alright,i do not know anything about their staff
2012-06-07 15901, 2012
noobie
but since they already provide the option to compress a directory,it should be fairly easy to just compress certain files in that directory..
2012-06-07 15921, 2012
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reosarevok
noobie: "<ianmcorvidae> if you want their stuff to be more accessible, you should probably volunteer to write it :P" ;)
2012-06-07 15923, 2012
noobie
i don't think they will let some unknown stranger modify their scripts
2012-06-07 15946, 2012
noobie
+ i don't know anything about their server(-structure and concepts) ^^
2012-06-07 15931, 2012
reosarevok
b) seems reasonable. a), not so sure. as ian said, they really need people
2012-06-07 15942, 2012
reosarevok
So they would probably be OK with giving you access
2012-06-07 15948, 2012
reosarevok
... and then forget to actually give it
2012-06-07 15925, 2012
noobie
:d
2012-06-07 15950, 2012
DocPlatypus
I've just downloaded all the FLAC files one by one
2012-06-07 15907, 2012
DocPlatypus
my OS/DE lets me just drag links to a file manager window and download that way
DocPlatypus: I don’t see why the date is greener, the gender and country were empty, so was the date actually. Empty → Data should give same green level imo :) Madcatz Street Fighter IV PS3
Now grooving to: プッチモニ ~ ちょこっとLOVE (Instrumental) (4:00) (from ちょこっとLOVE) (1999)
2012-06-07 15907, 2012
CatCat
oh you mean to that the dater is "higlhighted" ?
2012-06-07 15912, 2012
CatCat
yea.. why is that?
2012-06-07 15940, 2012
reosarevok
Probably because it's designed to highlight only the part that changes
2012-06-07 15945, 2012
reosarevok
But in this case, everything did
2012-06-07 15947, 2012
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2012-06-07 15934, 2012
jacobbrett
I'm actually considering buying the "radio mix" of a song, just to compare the waveform to the album version (and work out which one the music video belongs to).
2012-06-07 15934, 2012
reosarevok
:p
2012-06-07 15907, 2012
jacobbrett
reosarevok: Then I must again ask you: Are we a video encyclopedia, too?
2012-06-07 15915, 2012
reosarevok
Since it has, well, a video, and it's likely that it has some changed audio to fit the video, and videos are supposed to get ISRCs too
2012-06-07 15928, 2012
jacobbrett
Are they? interesting.
2012-06-07 15955, 2012
reosarevok
(also because it's not too strange, especially in Japan, that 10 videos are put out for the same song with the same -or barely modified- music)
2012-06-07 15905, 2012
jacobbrett
I'd guess 50% of videos I've added have different audio (non-music intro, etc.)...unless they're recognised by real people as different recordings, is it useful to add them as new recordings in MB (the ISRC aspect makes this more muddled)?
2012-06-07 15922, 2012
reosarevok
And well, it depends what you call a video encyclopedia
2012-06-07 15955, 2012
reosarevok
I'd say it's very useful to have better video support, and I'd definitely say people wouldn't say they bought the same thing if they bought a song on iTunes or a video on iTunes
2012-06-07 15954, 2012
jacobbrett
Good point. You know, I think the real solution is to support masters/mixes (so one can easily lookup the relevant video, while it still being technically correct as its own entity).
2012-06-07 15901, 2012
reosarevok
heh
2012-06-07 15919, 2012
reosarevok
I don't know if "masters/mixes" is the right word for that in this case
2012-06-07 15943, 2012
reosarevok
But I still agree it would make sense for videos to be able to be linked to their music-only recordings in any case
2012-06-07 15945, 2012
jacobbrett
Whatever you want to call them...I'm sure you understand what I mean
2012-06-07 15907, 2012
reosarevok
Whether like that, or with a relationship, I don't know
2012-06-07 15929, 2012
reosarevok
Anyway, I can't debate now, let's talk videos after I've finished my exams and I'm back in EE
2012-06-07 15930, 2012
reosarevok
)
2012-06-07 15931, 2012
reosarevok
*:)
2012-06-07 15938, 2012
reosarevok goes back to studying
2012-06-07 15942, 2012
jacobbrett
Haha, good luck
2012-06-07 15950, 2012
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2012-06-07 15959, 2012
Wizzcat
what the what, adding discogs to an add release edit note auto-links it?
2012-06-07 15927, 2012
reosarevok
¿?
2012-06-07 15957, 2012
Digweed
Damn, edits stay open for so long, I want to tag my files properly lol.
2012-06-07 15955, 2012
Wizzcat
reosarevok: or it just my muscle memory doing things without my noticing?
2012-06-07 15910, 2012
reosarevok
Wizzcat: I don't think that has changed it
2012-06-07 15918, 2012
reosarevok
So, either it was you
2012-06-07 15928, 2012
reosarevok
Or you're seeing an RG link and thinking it's release
2012-06-07 15952, 2012
Wizzcat
must've been myself doing it, weirdest thing...
2012-06-07 15909, 2012
ijabz wish sit did do that
2012-06-07 15932, 2012
Wizzcat
would probably make more sense to just add a url field to the add release edit page so you could bulk paste all the windows you have open anyway instead of waiting for the edit to go through
