ianweller_: in some cases, digital has a bonus track.
2012-06-07 15915, 2012
hawke_1
Plus, if I rip the CD I may end up with very very similar files
2012-06-07 15916, 2012
kepstin-work
you could think of the downloadable version as a pre-ripped copy of the cd.
2012-06-07 15916, 2012
derwin
err, hawke_1
2012-06-07 15916, 2012
ianweller_
derwin: you must like making my irc client beep
2012-06-07 15918, 2012
ianweller_
:)
2012-06-07 15935, 2012
ianweller_
hawke_1: anyway, how i've always done it is have two releases in the same release group with basically the same exact info, except one is a CD and the other is digital media.
2012-06-07 15939, 2012
ianweller_
it comes with these benefits:
2012-06-07 15955, 2012
ianweller_
- for the CD, you can do the physical scan of the cover art, and for the digital release you can just upload what came with it.
2012-06-07 15903, 2012
kepstin-work
ianweller_: only do that if the digital media version is available on its own, of course.
2012-06-07 15908, 2012
ianweller_
kepstin-work: yes.
2012-06-07 15911, 2012
hawke_1
Which it is.
2012-06-07 15913, 2012
ianweller_
- you can add the disc ID to the CD release and the digital media can be left aloe.
2012-06-07 15917, 2012
ianweller_
alone*
2012-06-07 15958, 2012
kepstin-work
hmm, I guess then you think of the online store as offering a two-for-one deal where you get both the cd and the digital release together in a bundle?
2012-06-07 15910, 2012
ianweller_
yeah
2012-06-07 15941, 2012
kepstin-work
i.e. the same thing as if a store shrinkwrapped a vinyl and a cd together and stuck a single pricetag on them?
2012-06-07 15947, 2012
hawke_1
The digital release even comes with art for what would be the disc itself (and presumably will be on the physical CD)
2012-06-07 15902, 2012
ianweller_
yeah, that happens a lot too.
2012-06-07 15906, 2012
hawke_1
Does that count as “medium”?
2012-06-07 15927, 2012
ianweller_
hard to say. i'd have to look at the page again
2012-06-07 15940, 2012
hawke_1
Well, in your opinion. :-)
2012-06-07 15948, 2012
kepstin-work
hawke_1: I wouldn't say that's a medium. I suppose the idea is that you could burn the digital release to cd and print out a label for it?
2012-06-07 15957, 2012
ianweller_
i'd call it "other"
2012-06-07 15900, 2012
kepstin-work
hawke_1: I'd just mark it other, yeah
2012-06-07 15914, 2012
ianweller_
the only time i would upload a "medium" art for a digital release is if i got it on a USB drive or something
2012-06-07 15926, 2012
ianweller_
and i (attempted to) scan the artwork on the side of it or whatnot
2012-06-07 15929, 2012
hawke_1
I have no idea what the idea is. if I had to guess I would say that it’s just for the sake of completeness.
2012-06-07 15945, 2012
kepstin-work
you could turn the bytes of the zip file download into a bitmap image and call that the medium picture.
2012-06-07 15949, 2012
hawke_1
i.e. the artist had the artwork handy, why deprive people who bought the digital release?
2012-06-07 15910, 2012
kepstin-work
jpg compression would corrupt it, tho ;)
2012-06-07 15959, 2012
ianweller_
kepstin-work: well, but if you converted the bits to an image, you would be distributing the music, not just the artwork
2012-06-07 15940, 2012
kepstin-work
if you take a high-enough resolution image of a vinyl, you'd be distributing the music :)
2012-06-07 15946, 2012
kepstin-work
so I guess downscale it.
2012-06-07 15903, 2012
ianweller_
i can't wait until artists distribute their music as input files for 3-D printers.
2012-06-07 15954, 2012
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2012-06-07 15957, 2012
hawke_1
ianweller_: You’d be waiting a long time.
2012-06-07 15958, 2012
kepstin-work
ianweller_: technically, you can convert pcm audio into instructions for carving a vinyl disc such that it could be played back in a record player to reproduce the music.
2012-06-07 15905, 2012
kepstin-work
so, yeah.
2012-06-07 15939, 2012
roosoft
what's the simplest way to get a release ASIN directly from the database?
they're designed to give you an overview, not a complete picture
2012-06-07 15945, 2012
kepstin-work
oh well
2012-06-07 15914, 2012
ianmcorvidae
if you want a complete picture, look at admin/sql/CreateTables.sql :)
2012-06-07 15918, 2012
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roosoft
:)
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derwin
< kepstin-work> hmm, I guess then you think of the online store as offering a two-for-one deal where you get both the cd and the digital release together in a bundle?
2012-06-07 15912, 2012
derwin
+1
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hawke_1
I wonder whether back+spine makes sense for a digital release, too.
2012-06-07 15941, 2012
hawke_1
I mean, it’s obviously artwork designed for a CD…but again, digital release → doesn’t have spine any more than it has a medium
2012-06-07 15929, 2012
kepstin-work
well, 'back' probably still makes sense
2012-06-07 15934, 2012
kepstin-work
dunno about spine :)
2012-06-07 15923, 2012
hawke_1
exactly.
2012-06-07 15949, 2012
hawke_1
I meant specifically the common “back+spine” that you get scanning the entire back sheet for a CD, or artwork intended for printing the same.
2012-06-07 15932, 2012
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Anoia
is it better to use acoustid or amplifind?
2012-06-07 15954, 2012
kepstin-work
Anoia: given that amplifind is slow, unreliable, and is difficult to add new fingerprints to, we generally recommend acoustid :)
