19:57 PM
roosoft
musicbrainz states that it's been released october 23rd in GB
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19:57 PM
roosoft
i see
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19:57 PM
noobie
wiki is probably refering to the us release date
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19:58 PM
SultS
yeah
2012-06-06 15828, 2012
19:59 PM
roosoft
ok... i am trying to figure out programatically which one is the most popular release
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19:59 PM
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19:59 PM
hawke_1
By what measure?
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19:59 PM
roosoft
well, it's quite subjective
2012-06-06 15808, 2012
20:00 PM
reosarevok
Well, you could choose the one from the artist country, but for majors, countries barely matter...
2012-06-06 15813, 2012
20:00 PM
roosoft
2 criterions are release date and country
2012-06-06 15859, 2012
20:00 PM
roosoft
i think that an album released in the artist's country has a good chance of being the most popular if it's release day is the oldest of all releases
2012-06-06 15826, 2012
20:01 PM
SultS
roosoft: quite often Japanese versions are released even earlier and contain bonus tracks… but it doesn’t seem to be the case with this Smashing Pumpkins album
2012-06-06 15835, 2012
20:01 PM
roosoft
in this case, no albums fits so my algo ouputs nothing
2012-06-06 15835, 2012
20:01 PM
hawke_1
How are you defining "most popular"?
2012-06-06 15809, 2012
20:02 PM
hawke_1
most likely to be the one someone wants for a search result? the one which someone is most likely to possess?
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20:02 PM
roosoft
i want to display artists tracks without regards about releases... but still link them to release groups
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20:03 PM
roosoft
to figure out which tracks comes from which release group, i have to go through releases
2012-06-06 15830, 2012
20:03 PM
roosoft
in fact, i rely on last.fm scrobbling
2012-06-06 15832, 2012
20:03 PM
hawke_1
I would say “whichever release group has the most releases where that track appears” if that makes sense.
2012-06-06 15814, 2012
20:04 PM
roosoft
it may be another way to sort it out...
2012-06-06 15838, 2012
20:04 PM
roosoft
i've seen albums re-released with hundreds of tracks
2012-06-06 15825, 2012
20:05 PM
roosoft
congratulations for your database by the way... it's awesome :D
2012-06-06 15821, 2012
20:06 PM
roosoft
the main reason why i am doing this is because i do not think physical media have much future
2012-06-06 15809, 2012
20:07 PM
kepstin-work
physical media might not, but the concept of an album will, imo.
2012-06-06 15810, 2012
20:07 PM
roosoft
i expect in the future that albums may have only one initial release regardless media or country
2012-06-06 15815, 2012
20:07 PM
roosoft
yup
2012-06-06 15836, 2012
20:07 PM
kepstin-work
nah, I still expect occasional remastered releases or versions with different bonus tracks
2012-06-06 15812, 2012
20:08 PM
roosoft
i'm trying to apply that principle to albums released in the past as well.. that's my challenge
2012-06-06 15820, 2012
20:08 PM
roosoft
i don't care about remasters
2012-06-06 15828, 2012
20:08 PM
roosoft
well, my website don't
2012-06-06 15825, 2012
20:09 PM
roosoft
i want to list the number of times a song has been played by one of my users, regardless which edition
2012-06-06 15829, 2012
20:09 PM
hawke_1
Musicbrainz does, ostensibly. :-)
2012-06-06 15839, 2012
20:09 PM
roosoft
of course
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Anoia
wth?
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20:54 PM
Anoia
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20:55 PM
Anoia
I'm not entirely sure that my file system is going to like that name...
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20:55 PM
ianmcorvidae
hah
2012-06-06 15817, 2012
20:56 PM
Anoia tells it to tag but not move
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20:56 PM
ianmcorvidae
I guess you could trim it in a taggerscript or something :P
2012-06-06 15812, 2012
20:59 PM
hawke_1
Anoia: Picard limits the filename to 255 characters
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21:00 PM
Anoia
ahh, lucky
2012-06-06 15832, 2012
21:01 PM
ianmcorvidae
on *nix it should really limit it to 255 per path-part instead
2012-06-06 15833, 2012
21:01 PM
ianmcorvidae
but eh
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21:07 PM
derwin
is it a TEXT in the database?
2012-06-06 15807, 2012
21:08 PM
ianmcorvidae
basically, it's written VARCHAR in createtables, but
2012-06-06 15818, 2012
21:08 PM
ianmcorvidae
unbounded, though, so
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21:20 PM
jacobbrett
Good news, everyone: I just discovered
http://www.myxer.com/ embeds the UPC and ISRCs of digital releases into the meta section of their web pages.
2012-06-06 15848, 2012
21:20 PM
ianmcorvidae
huh
2012-06-06 15805, 2012
21:21 PM
ianmcorvidae
I wonder if we have a wiki page for "data sources" or such
2012-06-06 15854, 2012
21:21 PM
jacobbrett
hmm, maybe I should keep one..
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21:22 PM
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derwin
jacobbret what about in the tags?
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21:33 PM
jacobbrett
derwin: No idea, I just stumbled onto their website via Google
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21:42 PM
Anoia
is there any practical/sensible way to link/import discogs and musicbrainz?
2012-06-06 15806, 2012
21:43 PM
Anoia
for example an album on discogs that isn;t on MB
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21:43 PM
reosarevok
Yes
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21:43 PM
ianmcorvidae
there's a userscript
2012-06-06 15822, 2012
21:43 PM
reosarevok
What's your browser?
2012-06-06 15824, 2012
21:43 PM
ianmcorvidae
there's also an AR link
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21:43 PM
Anoia
i'm using IE10
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21:44 PM
reosarevok
huh
2012-06-06 15821, 2012
21:44 PM
reosarevok
Dunno if IE works with userscripts at all
2012-06-06 15827, 2012
21:44 PM
reosarevok
Does it have a greasemonkey addon?
2012-06-06 15835, 2012
21:44 PM
reosarevok thinks it has addons now, right?
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21:44 PM
Anoia
has done for a while
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21:45 PM
reosarevok
Well, yeah
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21:45 PM
reosarevok
Haven't used it for a longer while than that
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21:45 PM
Anoia
either way i'm a developer nd can hack something to get it to work :)
2012-06-06 15835, 2012
21:46 PM
reosarevok
2012-06-06 15844, 2012
21:46 PM
reosarevok
That works in Firefox and Opera at least, and in Chrome with some changes
2012-06-06 15851, 2012
21:46 PM
reosarevok
No idea what it would need to work on IE
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21:46 PM
Anoia
are the licences compatable?
2012-06-06 15820, 2012
21:47 PM
reosarevok
Well, factual data is not copyrighted in the US where discogs is based, so it must be
2012-06-06 15824, 2012
21:47 PM
reosarevok
But I think it is anyway
2012-06-06 15838, 2012
21:47 PM
reosarevok
(like, "officially")
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21:48 PM
reosarevok
2012-06-06 15839, 2012
21:48 PM
reosarevok
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21:48 PM
reosarevok
So yeah, data is PD
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21:50 PM
hawke_1
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21:51 PM
hawke_1
Looks OK at first glance, doesn’t it?
2012-06-06 15830, 2012
21:51 PM
reosarevok
"ok"
2012-06-06 15836, 2012
21:52 PM
hawke_1
But guess what: Several tracks have completely wrong titles because someone guessed the specific selection incorrectly.
2012-06-06 15854, 2012
21:52 PM
hawke_1
Of course, the cover has it right…
2012-06-06 15822, 2012
21:53 PM
hawke_1
or at least, less wrong
2012-06-06 15845, 2012
21:54 PM
hawke_1
Specifically, disc 1 - tracks 15, 19, and 23 (at least; that’s as far as I’ve gotten)
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21:56 PM
noobie
seems to be wrong in discogs too
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21:56 PM
noobie
ah no
2012-06-06 15809, 2012
22:11 PM
derwin
yeah, I sometimes correct discogs
2012-06-06 15815, 2012
22:11 PM
derwin
so it will be correct when I import to mb
2012-06-06 15842, 2012
22:13 PM
hawke_1
I blame brianfreud since he added it. But that’s not really fair since it’s pre-NGS and who knows how good those references were 5 years ago.
2012-06-06 15839, 2012
22:15 PM
hawke_1
bit of a “ ;-) ” on that if that wasn’t clear.
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22:17 PM
ruaok
ok, need water.
2012-06-06 15805, 2012
22:18 PM
ruaok
I might return in a few. or not. :)
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23:15 PM
jacobbrett
2012-06-06 15815, 2012
23:16 PM
jacobbrett
Also, you can find PDF press releases
2012-06-06 15857, 2012
23:19 PM
jacobbrett
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23:19 PM
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23:20 PM
rubin110
Is there anyway to stamp in album art I've found on my own through Picard?
2012-06-06 15852, 2012
23:20 PM
jacobbrett
rubin110: Currently, I don't think so, though it's being worked on.
2012-06-06 15813, 2012
23:21 PM
reosarevok
Actually, there is
2012-06-06 15828, 2012
23:21 PM
reosarevok
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23:21 PM
ianmcorvidae
upload it to the CAA? :P
2012-06-06 15827, 2012
23:22 PM
reosarevok
Yeah, but that still needs that plugin to work
2012-06-06 15833, 2012
23:22 PM
jacobbrett
Oh, reosarevok, does it let you drag artwork??
2012-06-06 15844, 2012
23:22 PM
reosarevok
jacobbrett: no, it lets you use CAA artwork
2012-06-06 15851, 2012
23:22 PM
reosarevok
If you have it, why wouldn't you upload it? :)
2012-06-06 15801, 2012
23:23 PM
jacobbrett
Ah, I wasn't even sure that was working...
2012-06-06 15802, 2012
23:23 PM
reosarevok
(well, because the CAA is down like HALF THE TIME)
2012-06-06 15810, 2012
23:23 PM
rubin110
reosarevok: That's a good point, except I don't know if this is actually the cover art or not.
2012-06-06 15812, 2012
23:23 PM
reosarevok
(but apart from that :p)
2012-06-06 15817, 2012
23:23 PM
reosarevok
rubin110: oh :)
2012-06-06 15819, 2012
23:23 PM
jacobbrett
Hmm, maybe that was why lol
2012-06-06 15832, 2012
23:23 PM
reosarevok
I'm afraid that's all we have at the moment...
2012-06-06 15845, 2012
23:23 PM
rubin110
It's accurate for about 75% of my library.
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23:24 PM
rubin110
I mean, how imporper would it be to add a comment simply saying "Found through a Google Search" or "Found on Amazon"?
2012-06-06 15850, 2012
23:25 PM
reosarevok
Well, if you have a barcode you can search for it on Amazon and it will often give a release, usually with a cover
2012-06-06 15809, 2012
23:26 PM
reosarevok
(which might need some cropping or something because they put white edge crap around some of them)
2012-06-06 15824, 2012
23:26 PM
rubin110
Oh wow, that worked rather well.
2012-06-06 15843, 2012
23:26 PM
reosarevok
(or well, you could just link the ASIN :) )
2012-06-06 15814, 2012
23:28 PM
rubin110
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23:28 PM
rubin110
Picard doesn't seem to grab the art for that one.
2012-06-06 15831, 2012
23:28 PM
CatBuss
:D
2012-06-06 15851, 2012
23:28 PM
ianmcorvidae
hm, it should get it via the ASIN
2012-06-06 15854, 2012
23:28 PM
ianmcorvidae
with the coverart plugin installed
2012-06-06 15801, 2012
23:29 PM
CatBuss
CatCat: lol
2012-06-06 15803, 2012
23:29 PM
ianmcorvidae
dunno why though
2012-06-06 15804, 2012
23:29 PM
jacobbrett
iTunes has 600x600 artwork, less compression, too
2012-06-06 15845, 2012
23:31 PM
reosarevok
rubin110: oh, digital media
2012-06-06 15854, 2012
23:31 PM
reosarevok
Yeah, some legal issue or some issue with Amazon API or both
2012-06-06 15859, 2012
23:31 PM
reosarevok can never remember
2012-06-06 15810, 2012
23:32 PM
reosarevok
Just get the cover from there or iTunes and upload it then
2012-06-06 15833, 2012
23:32 PM
reosarevok
(iTunes covers tend to be good, just right-click, open in new tab, change 170x170 in the url for 600x600)
2012-06-06 15810, 2012
23:33 PM
rubin110
Ah ok.
2012-06-06 15811, 2012
23:33 PM
rubin110
Rad.
