14:40 PM
SultS
looking at their discogs page
14:41 PM
kepstin-work
in this case, I'd suggest removing the discogs link so you can split the artist.
14:42 PM
DWSR
kepstin-work: Bah, now I have to wait for the edits to get applied.
14:42 PM
kepstin-work
if you ask really nice, you could get some people here to vote on it so it passes quicker :)
14:43 PM
DWSR
I was about to say.
14:43 PM
14:44 PM
kepstin-work
you don't need to remove the 'collaborated on' ars
14:44 PM
the split will handle those automatically
14:44 PM
DWSR
kepstin-work: Ah, I just did it in case.
14:44 PM
I'll cancel those then.
14:45 PM
Anyone else? Just need 1 more vote apiece.
14:47 PM
SultS
changing release quality to normal on
http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17950031 , berhaps I can get some votes? definetly does not have any release level credits, some of which could be added now some later… and the remaining data is somewhat incorrect as well
14:47 PM
DWSR
SultS: I'll vote swap you. :P
14:47 PM
kepstin-work notes that the release quality setting doesn't even protect recordings, anyways.
14:48 PM
SultS
DWSR: I already voted on yours :P
14:48 PM
DWSR
I know, I voted on yours as well.
14:48 PM
I'm just shamelessly plugging at the moment.
14:49 PM
SultS
thanks :) I guess I should check how many do I need for it to pass (at some point)
14:49 PM
kepstin-work
SultS: it says right on the edit page.
14:49 PM
"5 unanimous votes"
14:50 PM
SultS
to pass right away
14:50 PM
I assume
14:50 PM
but in 14 days maybe less
14:50 PM
DWSR
no
14:50 PM
SultS
+4 seems to be the number
14:50 PM
DWSR
It needs 5 unanimous votes.
14:51 PM
Otherwise it rejects.
14:51 PM
14:51 PM
I'm using the compilation special purpose VA at the moment.
14:52 PM
SultS
GetDarker is an artist?
14:53 PM
Leftmost joined the channel
14:53 PM
DWSR
Label.
14:53 PM
SultS
14:54 PM
DWSR
Cool, that's what I was looking for.
14:54 PM
Thanks.
14:55 PM
Edits get applied at ~xx:05, right?
14:56 PM
kepstin-work
DWSR: modbot runs every hour on the hour, and takes a while to run.
14:57 PM
DWSR
Yeah, figured.
14:57 PM
Is there any way to save a partial release?
14:58 PM
In like a user sandbox or something?
14:58 PM
kepstin-work
nope.
15:00 PM
reosarevok
huh
15:01 PM
Where did people get the idea it needs 5 (or 4) unanimous?
15:01 PM
kepstin-work
reosarevok: it says so on the official guidelines talking about data quality.
15:01 PM
reosarevok
For passing unanimously, yeah
15:01 PM
But for passing on expiration, it just needs to have votes
15:02 PM
kepstin-work
It'll pass on one yes vote on expiration?
15:02 PM
DWSR
No.
15:02 PM
It'll pass on 5 yes.
15:02 PM
But it doesn't need to be unianimous.
15:02 PM
It can be 5 yes and 4 no.
15:03 PM
(I think is what you're trying to say)
15:03 PM
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15:03 PM
SultS
15:03 PM
kepstin-work
reosarevok: perhaps the guideline pages should be updated to actually have this information on it.
15:03 PM
once we figure out *what* information is correct :)
15:04 PM
SultS
“LowerDataQualityEdit Is hard to pass. It takes more unanimous votes than other edits in the old DQ (~ 1.5 to 2 times more).”
15:04 PM
I can’t see info about pass on expiration
15:05 PM
reosarevok
How can that page suck so terribly?
15:06 PM
DWSR
reosarevok: Do you really have to ask?
15:06 PM
reosarevok
"User lowers DQ legitimately. We suppose they enter legitimate edits right afterwards (or even just before)."
15:06 PM
SultS
dunno, but it mentions reject on expiration twice without any additional info
15:06 PM
reosarevok
Who the hell supposed that?
15:07 PM
If I had all that information, I wouldn't need to lower the quality :p
15:08 PM
SultS
oh, and thanks for all the voters :) I have 5 :)
15:08 PM
DWSR
I'm all for downvoting quality.
15:08 PM
1) Because the system sucks and 2) because it's misleading anyway.
15:09 PM
hawke_1
Can we just delete the current data quality system?
15:10 PM
kepstin-work
hawke_1: that was my hope :)
15:10 PM
DWSR
Seems to be a pretty common sentiment around here.
15:10 PM
kepstin-work
maybe we can get the deletion of the current data quality system into the next schema change :)
15:10 PM
SultS
I would have no objections :)
15:10 PM
DWSR
I think this is an instance where no system at all is better than the current system.
15:10 PM
hawke_1
A one-way data quality system might be interesting
15:10 PM
but I doubt anyone has much interest in a new locking-style DQ system in general
15:11 PM
DWSR
You could make the edits very long expiries.
15:11 PM
SultS
but I’m off for now
15:11 PM
DWSR
expiration*
15:11 PM
kepstin-work wonders what the process to delete the data quality system would be
15:11 PM
kepstin-work
does it need an RFC?
15:11 PM
DWSR
And make the required votes be like 10 unanimous or something
15:11 PM
kepstin-work
It would obviously need a server ticket; would that be added after the rfc or immediately?
15:12 PM
hawke_1
I think asking someone would be a good idea
15:12 PM
whether that be an official RFC or not
15:12 PM
(by someone, I mean some list/something representative of users in general
15:12 PM
DWSR
15:12 PM
hawke_1
maybe there’s someone out there who’s found it beneficial
15:13 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: ah good to know it doesn’t protect recs. tracklist is the most important anyway
15:13 PM
kepstin-work
well, it has one almost-legitimate use right now: locking releases to make capitalization changes not autoedits.
15:13 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: ah good to know it doesn’t protect recs. tracklist is the most important anyway
15:14 PM
kepstin-work: I was refused this use of HQ
15:15 PM
kepstin-work
I said "almost-legitimate"
15:15 PM
reosarevok
kepstin-work: does that actually *work*?
15:15 PM
kepstin-work would have no-voted that edit as well.
15:15 PM
I never thought about it
15:16 PM
jesus2099
15:16 PM
is it duplicate of something ?
15:17 PM
kepstin-work
i dunno
15:17 PM
I'm not sure if that's really the best solution.
15:17 PM
jesus2099
then vote B
15:18 PM
DWSR
Anyone have the Discogs to MB importer working?
15:18 PM
Mine doesn't appear to be.
15:18 PM
jesus2099
I don’t use any shit importer ;p
15:18 PM
don’t misunderstand me, "shit" is discogs, not the importer itself
15:19 PM
jesus2099 should say random reliability info instead of "shit"
15:20 PM
DWSR: there are 2 discogs importer, aren’t they ?
15:20 PM
try the other one
15:20 PM
DWSR
No idea.
15:20 PM
15:20 PM
Only the one.
15:20 PM
jesus2099
15:20 PM
reosarevok
DWSR: browser?
15:20 PM
DWSR
Chrome.
15:20 PM
reosarevok
then it won't work without changes
15:21 PM
jesus2099
ah yes this author writes for firefox only
15:21 PM
iirc
15:21 PM
reosarevok is searching for his version
15:21 PM
I thought there were two discogs importers, but it seems not
15:22 PM
DWSR
reosarevok: You can just pastebin me the .js
15:23 PM
jesus2099
the cool discogs importer would be an OCR (optical character recognition) on discogs pictures :)
15:23 PM
reosarevok
ffs, I had pastebin-ed it
15:23 PM
jesus2099
that would make it an almighty importer actually
15:23 PM
reosarevok
Wonder where
15:24 PM
DWSR
reosarevok: If you have it still active on your browser, you can just grab the .js :P
15:24 PM
reosarevok
jesus2099: doesn't OCR usually give crap results anyway?
15:24 PM
jesus2099
better than discogs
15:24 PM
kepstin-work usually uses gist for pastebin, which has a handy feature that it associates them with your account and gives you a list.
15:24 PM
reosarevok
DWSR: that's the plan b, but it means going into the Chrome folders
15:24 PM
jesus2099
reosarevok: it’s easier to fix language typoes than wrong data
15:24 PM
reosarevok
And checking folders with silly names
15:25 PM
Because they refuse to just let you get the code easily
15:25 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: where is gits ?
15:25 PM
kepstin-work
15:26 PM
huh, the public view only shows the most recent 5 pastes.
15:26 PM
kepstin-work has more than that :)
15:26 PM
jesus2099
seems cool
15:26 PM
kepstin-work
they have support for anonymous posting as well
15:27 PM
15:28 PM
reosarevok
15:28 PM
DWSR
How do I do no cat #?
15:28 PM
reosarevok
That should work
15:28 PM
DWSR
[none]?
15:28 PM
reosarevok
Yes
15:29 PM
15:29 PM
kepstin-work
lol, you can fork someone's gist if you want to update it.
15:29 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: can you delete your stuff ?
15:29 PM
reosarevok never remembers
15:29 PM
kepstin-work wonders if you can send gist pull requests.
15:30 PM
kepstin-work
jesus2099: yes, if it's associated with your account.
15:30 PM
(I don't think you can delete anonymous ones)