14:40 PM
SultS
looking at their discogs page
2012-06-11 16301, 2012
14:41 PM
kepstin-work
in this case, I'd suggest removing the discogs link so you can split the artist.
2012-06-11 16322, 2012
14:42 PM
DWSR
kepstin-work: Bah, now I have to wait for the edits to get applied.
2012-06-11 16350, 2012
14:42 PM
kepstin-work
if you ask really nice, you could get some people here to vote on it so it passes quicker :)
2012-06-11 16309, 2012
14:43 PM
DWSR
I was about to say.
2012-06-11 16352, 2012
14:43 PM
DWSR
2012-06-11 16317, 2012
14:44 PM
kepstin-work
you don't need to remove the 'collaborated on' ars
2012-06-11 16325, 2012
14:44 PM
kepstin-work
the split will handle those automatically
2012-06-11 16328, 2012
14:44 PM
DWSR
kepstin-work: Ah, I just did it in case.
2012-06-11 16336, 2012
14:44 PM
DWSR
I'll cancel those then.
2012-06-11 16338, 2012
14:45 PM
DWSR
Anyone else? Just need 1 more vote apiece.
2012-06-11 16311, 2012
14:47 PM
SultS
changing release quality to normal on
http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17950031 , berhaps I can get some votes? definetly does not have any release level credits, some of which could be added now some later… and the remaining data is somewhat incorrect as well
2012-06-11 16355, 2012
14:47 PM
DWSR
SultS: I'll vote swap you. :P
2012-06-11 16358, 2012
14:47 PM
kepstin-work notes that the release quality setting doesn't even protect recordings, anyways.
2012-06-11 16316, 2012
14:48 PM
SultS
DWSR: I already voted on yours :P
2012-06-11 16324, 2012
14:48 PM
DWSR
I know, I voted on yours as well.
2012-06-11 16330, 2012
14:48 PM
DWSR
I'm just shamelessly plugging at the moment.
2012-06-11 16306, 2012
14:49 PM
SultS
thanks :) I guess I should check how many do I need for it to pass (at some point)
2012-06-11 16349, 2012
14:49 PM
kepstin-work
SultS: it says right on the edit page.
2012-06-11 16357, 2012
14:49 PM
kepstin-work
"5 unanimous votes"
2012-06-11 16312, 2012
14:50 PM
SultS
to pass right away
2012-06-11 16314, 2012
14:50 PM
SultS
I assume
2012-06-11 16326, 2012
14:50 PM
SultS
but in 14 days maybe less
2012-06-11 16350, 2012
14:50 PM
DWSR
no
2012-06-11 16353, 2012
14:50 PM
SultS
+4 seems to be the number
2012-06-11 16358, 2012
14:50 PM
DWSR
It needs 5 unanimous votes.
2012-06-11 16302, 2012
14:51 PM
DWSR
Otherwise it rejects.
2012-06-11 16329, 2012
14:51 PM
DWSR
2012-06-11 16339, 2012
14:51 PM
DWSR
I'm using the compilation special purpose VA at the moment.
2012-06-11 16359, 2012
14:52 PM
SultS
GetDarker is an artist?
2012-06-11 16302, 2012
14:53 PM
Leftmost joined the channel
2012-06-11 16326, 2012
14:53 PM
DWSR
Label.
2012-06-11 16347, 2012
14:53 PM
SultS
2012-06-11 16304, 2012
14:54 PM
DWSR
Cool, that's what I was looking for.
2012-06-11 16305, 2012
14:54 PM
DWSR
Thanks.
2012-06-11 16328, 2012
14:55 PM
DWSR
Edits get applied at ~xx:05, right?
2012-06-11 16301, 2012
14:56 PM
kepstin-work
DWSR: modbot runs every hour on the hour, and takes a while to run.
2012-06-11 16327, 2012
14:57 PM
DWSR
Yeah, figured.
2012-06-11 16355, 2012
14:57 PM
DWSR
Is there any way to save a partial release?
2012-06-11 16300, 2012
14:58 PM
DWSR
In like a user sandbox or something?
2012-06-11 16304, 2012
14:58 PM
kepstin-work
nope.
2012-06-11 16356, 2012
15:00 PM
reosarevok
huh
2012-06-11 16310, 2012
15:01 PM
reosarevok
Where did people get the idea it needs 5 (or 4) unanimous?
2012-06-11 16331, 2012
15:01 PM
kepstin-work
reosarevok: it says so on the official guidelines talking about data quality.
2012-06-11 16343, 2012
15:01 PM
reosarevok
For passing unanimously, yeah
2012-06-11 16354, 2012
15:01 PM
reosarevok
But for passing on expiration, it just needs to have votes
2012-06-11 16330, 2012
15:02 PM
kepstin-work
It'll pass on one yes vote on expiration?
2012-06-11 16340, 2012
15:02 PM
DWSR
No.
2012-06-11 16346, 2012
15:02 PM
DWSR
It'll pass on 5 yes.
2012-06-11 16355, 2012
15:02 PM
DWSR
But it doesn't need to be unianimous.
2012-06-11 16359, 2012
15:02 PM
DWSR
It can be 5 yes and 4 no.
2012-06-11 16307, 2012
15:03 PM
DWSR
(I think is what you're trying to say)
2012-06-11 16321, 2012
15:03 PM
hawke_1 joined the channel
2012-06-11 16335, 2012
15:03 PM
SultS
2012-06-11 16339, 2012
15:03 PM
kepstin-work
reosarevok: perhaps the guideline pages should be updated to actually have this information on it.
2012-06-11 16357, 2012
15:03 PM
kepstin-work
once we figure out *what* information is correct :)
2012-06-11 16321, 2012
15:04 PM
SultS
“LowerDataQualityEdit Is hard to pass. It takes more unanimous votes than other edits in the old DQ (~ 1.5 to 2 times more).”
2012-06-11 16337, 2012
15:04 PM
SultS
I can’t see info about pass on expiration
2012-06-11 16342, 2012
15:05 PM
reosarevok
How can that page suck so terribly?
2012-06-11 16328, 2012
15:06 PM
DWSR
reosarevok: Do you really have to ask?
2012-06-11 16340, 2012
15:06 PM
reosarevok
"User lowers DQ legitimately. We suppose they enter legitimate edits right afterwards (or even just before)."
2012-06-11 16342, 2012
15:06 PM
SultS
dunno, but it mentions reject on expiration twice without any additional info
2012-06-11 16352, 2012
15:06 PM
reosarevok
Who the hell supposed that?
2012-06-11 16305, 2012
15:07 PM
reosarevok
If I had all that information, I wouldn't need to lower the quality :p
2012-06-11 16320, 2012
15:08 PM
SultS
oh, and thanks for all the voters :) I have 5 :)
2012-06-11 16348, 2012
15:08 PM
DWSR
I'm all for downvoting quality.
2012-06-11 16358, 2012
15:08 PM
DWSR
1) Because the system sucks and 2) because it's misleading anyway.
2012-06-11 16353, 2012
15:09 PM
hawke_1
Can we just delete the current data quality system?
2012-06-11 16306, 2012
15:10 PM
kepstin-work
hawke_1: that was my hope :)
2012-06-11 16308, 2012
15:10 PM
DWSR
Seems to be a pretty common sentiment around here.
2012-06-11 16326, 2012
15:10 PM
kepstin-work
maybe we can get the deletion of the current data quality system into the next schema change :)
2012-06-11 16327, 2012
15:10 PM
SultS
I would have no objections :)
2012-06-11 16340, 2012
15:10 PM
DWSR
I think this is an instance where no system at all is better than the current system.
2012-06-11 16342, 2012
15:10 PM
hawke_1
A one-way data quality system might be interesting
2012-06-11 16358, 2012
15:10 PM
hawke_1
but I doubt anyone has much interest in a new locking-style DQ system in general
2012-06-11 16302, 2012
15:11 PM
DWSR
You could make the edits very long expiries.
2012-06-11 16303, 2012
15:11 PM
SultS
but I’m off for now
2012-06-11 16311, 2012
15:11 PM
DWSR
expiration*
2012-06-11 16316, 2012
15:11 PM
kepstin-work wonders what the process to delete the data quality system would be
2012-06-11 16321, 2012
15:11 PM
kepstin-work
does it need an RFC?
2012-06-11 16330, 2012
15:11 PM
DWSR
And make the required votes be like 10 unanimous or something
2012-06-11 16356, 2012
15:11 PM
kepstin-work
It would obviously need a server ticket; would that be added after the rfc or immediately?
2012-06-11 16316, 2012
15:12 PM
hawke_1
I think asking someone would be a good idea
2012-06-11 16323, 2012
15:12 PM
hawke_1
whether that be an official RFC or not
2012-06-11 16338, 2012
15:12 PM
hawke_1
(by someone, I mean some list/something representative of users in general
2012-06-11 16346, 2012
15:12 PM
DWSR
2012-06-11 16347, 2012
15:12 PM
hawke_1
maybe there’s someone out there who’s found it beneficial
2012-06-11 16325, 2012
15:13 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: ah good to know it doesn’t protect recs. tracklist is the most important anyway
2012-06-11 16326, 2012
15:13 PM
kepstin-work
well, it has one almost-legitimate use right now: locking releases to make capitalization changes not autoedits.
2012-06-11 16335, 2012
15:13 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: ah good to know it doesn’t protect recs. tracklist is the most important anyway
2012-06-11 16350, 2012
15:14 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: I was refused this use of HQ
2012-06-11 16310, 2012
15:15 PM
kepstin-work
I said "almost-legitimate"
2012-06-11 16315, 2012
15:15 PM
reosarevok
kepstin-work: does that actually *work*?
2012-06-11 16318, 2012
15:15 PM
kepstin-work would have no-voted that edit as well.
2012-06-11 16330, 2012
15:15 PM
reosarevok
I never thought about it
2012-06-11 16330, 2012
15:16 PM
jesus2099
2012-06-11 16342, 2012
15:16 PM
jesus2099
is it duplicate of something ?
2012-06-11 16301, 2012
15:17 PM
kepstin-work
i dunno
2012-06-11 16311, 2012
15:17 PM
kepstin-work
I'm not sure if that's really the best solution.
2012-06-11 16336, 2012
15:17 PM
jesus2099
then vote B
2012-06-11 16304, 2012
15:18 PM
DWSR
Anyone have the Discogs to MB importer working?
2012-06-11 16306, 2012
15:18 PM
DWSR
Mine doesn't appear to be.
2012-06-11 16318, 2012
15:18 PM
jesus2099
I don’t use any shit importer ;p
2012-06-11 16359, 2012
15:18 PM
jesus2099
don’t misunderstand me, "shit" is discogs, not the importer itself
2012-06-11 16346, 2012
15:19 PM
jesus2099 should say random reliability info instead of "shit"
2012-06-11 16307, 2012
15:20 PM
jesus2099
DWSR: there are 2 discogs importer, aren’t they ?
2012-06-11 16311, 2012
15:20 PM
jesus2099
try the other one
2012-06-11 16312, 2012
15:20 PM
DWSR
No idea.
2012-06-11 16316, 2012
15:20 PM
DWSR
2012-06-11 16318, 2012
15:20 PM
DWSR
Only the one.
2012-06-11 16323, 2012
15:20 PM
jesus2099
2012-06-11 16334, 2012
15:20 PM
reosarevok
DWSR: browser?
2012-06-11 16337, 2012
15:20 PM
DWSR
Chrome.
2012-06-11 16349, 2012
15:20 PM
reosarevok
then it won't work without changes
2012-06-11 16304, 2012
15:21 PM
jesus2099
ah yes this author writes for firefox only
2012-06-11 16310, 2012
15:21 PM
jesus2099
iirc
2012-06-11 16322, 2012
15:21 PM
reosarevok is searching for his version
2012-06-11 16335, 2012
15:21 PM
jesus2099
I thought there were two discogs importers, but it seems not
2012-06-11 16318, 2012
15:22 PM
DWSR
reosarevok: You can just pastebin me the .js
2012-06-11 16332, 2012
15:23 PM
jesus2099
the cool discogs importer would be an OCR (optical character recognition) on discogs pictures :)
2012-06-11 16348, 2012
15:23 PM
reosarevok
ffs, I had pastebin-ed it
2012-06-11 16348, 2012
15:23 PM
jesus2099
that would make it an almighty importer actually
2012-06-11 16354, 2012
15:23 PM
reosarevok
Wonder where
2012-06-11 16306, 2012
15:24 PM
DWSR
reosarevok: If you have it still active on your browser, you can just grab the .js :P
2012-06-11 16310, 2012
15:24 PM
reosarevok
jesus2099: doesn't OCR usually give crap results anyway?
2012-06-11 16318, 2012
15:24 PM
jesus2099
better than discogs
2012-06-11 16335, 2012
15:24 PM
kepstin-work usually uses gist for pastebin, which has a handy feature that it associates them with your account and gives you a list.
2012-06-11 16347, 2012
15:24 PM
reosarevok
DWSR: that's the plan b, but it means going into the Chrome folders
2012-06-11 16351, 2012
15:24 PM
jesus2099
reosarevok: it’s easier to fix language typoes than wrong data
2012-06-11 16357, 2012
15:24 PM
reosarevok
And checking folders with silly names
2012-06-11 16310, 2012
15:25 PM
reosarevok
Because they refuse to just let you get the code easily
2012-06-11 16331, 2012
15:25 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: where is gits ?
2012-06-11 16356, 2012
15:25 PM
kepstin-work
2012-06-11 16320, 2012
15:26 PM
kepstin-work
huh, the public view only shows the most recent 5 pastes.
2012-06-11 16327, 2012
15:26 PM
kepstin-work has more than that :)
2012-06-11 16335, 2012
15:26 PM
jesus2099
seems cool
2012-06-11 16356, 2012
15:26 PM
kepstin-work
they have support for anonymous posting as well
2012-06-11 16327, 2012
15:27 PM
kepstin-work
2012-06-11 16344, 2012
15:28 PM
reosarevok
2012-06-11 16346, 2012
15:28 PM
DWSR
How do I do no cat #?
2012-06-11 16347, 2012
15:28 PM
reosarevok
That should work
2012-06-11 16349, 2012
15:28 PM
DWSR
[none]?
2012-06-11 16351, 2012
15:28 PM
reosarevok
Yes
2012-06-11 16325, 2012
15:29 PM
reosarevok
2012-06-11 16325, 2012
15:29 PM
kepstin-work
lol, you can fork someone's gist if you want to update it.
2012-06-11 16329, 2012
15:29 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: can you delete your stuff ?
2012-06-11 16331, 2012
15:29 PM
reosarevok never remembers
2012-06-11 16335, 2012
15:29 PM
kepstin-work wonders if you can send gist pull requests.
2012-06-11 16303, 2012
15:30 PM
kepstin-work
jesus2099: yes, if it's associated with your account.
2012-06-11 16316, 2012
15:30 PM
kepstin-work
(I don't think you can delete anonymous ones)
