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      • Vorpal
        they need to hire an industrial designer

        • 2012-08-05 21816, 2012

      • reosarevok
        heh, wish MB had enough money for that

        • 2012-08-05 21821, 2012

      • Vorpal
        we did at the place I work in for the next generation of the embedded operator units. (My work consists of programming mining equipment.) The UI changed considerably.

        • 2012-08-05 21835, 2012

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        • 2012-08-05 21849, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (even if we did not hire one, just having that money would be great :p)

        • 2012-08-05 21850, 2012

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        • 2012-08-05 21853, 2012

      • Vorpal
        right

        • 2012-08-05 21823, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Sadly with our list of bugs and other stuff to code, we need more devs before we can consider designers

        • 2012-08-05 21800, 2012

      • reosarevok
        At least we *are* getting another dev this year, that's progress

        • 2012-08-05 21817, 2012

      • Vorpal
        and there we go, ids sent in

        • 2012-08-05 21820, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)

        • 2012-08-05 21827, 2012

      • Vorpal
        hm mb is open source right?

        • 2012-08-05 21845, 2012

      • Vorpal
        shouldn't be too hard to get the community to help

        • 2012-08-05 21805, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Most of the community is as bad in UI design as the devs are :)

        • 2012-08-05 21816, 2012

      • Vorpal
        well yes, but for the bugs I meant

        • 2012-08-05 21823, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, yeah

        • 2012-08-05 21825, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In some cases we do

        • 2012-08-05 21839, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In others though nobody would touch it without being paid for it

        • 2012-08-05 21852, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I've been told the release editor code makes kids hide under their beds

        • 2012-08-05 21803, 2012

      • Vorpal
        right

        • 2012-08-05 21808, 2012

      • Vorpal
        what language

        • 2012-08-05 21814, 2012

      • Vorpal
        if you say PHP I'm going to run

        • 2012-08-05 21816, 2012

      • xteejx
        English

        • 2012-08-05 21819, 2012

      • xteejx giggles

        • 2012-08-05 21824, 2012

      • Vorpal
        very funny

        • 2012-08-05 21843, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The site is a mix of Perl and JS / Template Toolkit

        • 2012-08-05 21846, 2012

      • Vorpal
        ouch

        • 2012-08-05 21850, 2012

      • Vorpal
        almost as bad

        • 2012-08-05 21859, 2012

      • xteejx
        was gonna say, page source shows Js

        • 2012-08-05 21859, 2012

      • reosarevok
        See? :)

        • 2012-08-05 21811, 2012

      • Vorpal
        obviously not js on the server site

        • 2012-08-05 21813, 2012

      • Vorpal
        side*

        • 2012-08-05 21817, 2012

      • Vorpal
        well okay it could be node.js...

        • 2012-08-05 21816, 2012

      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, finished the Grieg stuff yet? :D

        • 2012-08-05 21822, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I wish :p

        • 2012-08-05 21829, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So much stuff to fix in the actual releases

        • 2012-08-05 21837, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, not fix as much as update

        • 2012-08-05 21841, 2012

      • Vorpal
        fun

        • 2012-08-05 21806, 2012

      • Vorpal
        picard doesn't add in cover art at all does it?

        • 2012-08-05 21812, 2012

      • Vorpal
        not to .ogg at least

        • 2012-08-05 21838, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You need a plugin for it

        • 2012-08-05 21839, 2012

      • xteejx
        it can save the cover art in the directory iirc

        • 2012-08-05 21849, 2012

      • Vorpal
        xteejx, needs to be embedded for my usage

        • 2012-08-05 21853, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (it should also be in the Picard Plugins page)

        • 2012-08-05 21854, 2012

      • Vorpal
        which is to get my phone to see it

        • 2012-08-05 21857, 2012

      • xteejx
        ahh, ignore me then :)

        • 2012-08-05 21804, 2012

      • Vorpal
        and it needs to be embedded in the new way

        • 2012-08-05 21812, 2012

      • Vorpal
        there are two ways to do it for *.ogg

        • 2012-08-05 21821, 2012

      • Vorpal
        my phone only handles the modern way

        • 2012-08-05 21824, 2012

      • reosarevok doesn't know what it does with ogg

        • 2012-08-05 21859, 2012

      • Vorpal
        I have to use a windows program under wine to do that (mp3tag). Haven't found a Linux program that handles it

        • 2012-08-05 21850, 2012

      • Vorpal
        oh you fast tracked my edits I see

        • 2012-08-05 21854, 2012

      • Vorpal
        or wait

        • 2012-08-05 21806, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard/Plu…

        • 2012-08-05 21814, 2012

      • reosarevok
        try the cover art downloader and see what happens

        • 2012-08-05 21815, 2012

      • Vorpal
        I'm confused by the statistics on my user page

        • 2012-08-05 21818, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Maybe it will work? dunno

        • 2012-08-05 21836, 2012

      • Vorpal
        well first the records need to have cover art (and high res too)

        • 2012-08-05 21818, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)

        • 2012-08-05 21821, 2012

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      • Vorpal
        right

        • 2012-08-05 21856, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Most of our cover art still comes from Amazon at the moment

        • 2012-08-05 21824, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Dunno if that'd be high res enough for your needs anyway, but if it is, you can always add Amazon relationships to get it

        • 2012-08-05 21830, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (if the stuff is in Amazon, that is)

        • 2012-08-05 21813, 2012

      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, well I have a Galaxy S3, which is both large and have a 306 dpi screen

        • 2012-08-05 21828, 2012

      • Vorpal
        if it isn't high res it doesn't look good on it

        • 2012-08-05 21821, 2012

      • Vorpal
        it has a 720p screen, insane for a phone when you think about it

        • 2012-08-05 21854, 2012

      • xteejx
        S3? Can I swap my S2 with you? It's better, honest :D

        • 2012-08-05 21800, 2012

      • Vorpal
        :P

        • 2012-08-05 21810, 2012

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      • Vorpal
        xteejx, international GSM edition?

        • 2012-08-05 21817, 2012

      • Vorpal
        anyway the answer is no

        • 2012-08-05 21824, 2012

      • xteejx
        lmao

        • 2012-08-05 21841, 2012

      • Vorpal
        I'm going to copy my entire music library to my 64 GB class 10 sdcard

        • 2012-08-05 21852, 2012

      • Vorpal
        and you know what, that is not even going to be close to filling it up

        • 2012-08-05 21859, 2012

      • Vorpal
        my music library is about 7 GB atm

        • 2012-08-05 21838, 2012

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      • xteejx
        heheh

        • 2012-08-05 21822, 2012

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      • Vorpal
        sadly you can't move apps to the sdcard. Stupid samsung. Might get a custom rom when they matured a bit

        • 2012-08-05 21831, 2012

      • Vorpal
        for now I'm staying on rooted stock

        • 2012-08-05 21818, 2012

      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, any hints for BIS releases?

        • 2012-08-05 21839, 2012

      • Vorpal
        actually never mind, won't have time to do that today

        • 2012-08-05 21843, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Both Naxos and BIS have some info, sadly, none of them as good as for Naxos ones

        • 2012-08-05 21811, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But anyway, search for the cat# in the naxos site or on bis.se and that should give you at least something to copy and paste from

        • 2012-08-05 21813, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hopefully

        • 2012-08-05 21830, 2012

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      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, BIS is a Swedish brand?

        • 2012-08-05 21833, 2012

      • Vorpal
        heh

        • 2012-08-05 21836, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah

        • 2012-08-05 21847, 2012

      • xteejx
        Guys, http://musicbrainz.org/recording/2286e475-4d16-42… has two ISRCs and http://musicbrainz.org/isrc/USEM38800361 shows two tracks. Am I right in assuming 361 is the 4:54 one and the other is the 3:55 one?

        • 2012-08-05 21854, 2012

      • xteejx
        How do you clean these up?

        • 2012-08-05 21817, 2012

      • drsaunde
        the same recording having multiple ISRCs is actually a very very common thing

        • 2012-08-05 21838, 2012

      • Vorpal
        what is an ISRC?

        • 2012-08-05 21858, 2012

      • xteejx
        Oh... I (wrongly) assumed it was one ISRC per production/release of a track (or recording to MB)

        • 2012-08-05 21823, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ideally, it is

        • 2012-08-05 21823, 2012

      • xteejx
        First I've came across :)

        • 2012-08-05 21827, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In practice, it is not

        • 2012-08-05 21833, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (not always)

        • 2012-08-05 21859, 2012

      • xteejx
        Theory vs. music industry....yeah I'm sure that always works hehe ;)

        • 2012-08-05 21843, 2012

      • reosarevok
        xteejx: yes, you're right this time, though

        • 2012-08-05 21844, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It seems

        • 2012-08-05 21817, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://www.scpp.fr/SCPP/Accueil/REPERTOIRE/Catalo…

        • 2012-08-05 21827, 2012

      • reosarevok
        claims 361 is 4m 51s

        • 2012-08-05 21812, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Dunno if the link will work, if not just search for the ISRC

        • 2012-08-05 21831, 2012

      • Vorpal
        so what is an ISRC then?

        • 2012-08-05 21855, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ISRC

        • 2012-08-05 21856, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)

        • 2012-08-05 21843, 2012

      • drsaunde
        irsc's don't discriminate between reissue and remaster.. oh and anything licensed by multiple labels will get multiple isrcs

        • 2012-08-05 21802, 2012

      • drsaunde
        oh and anything with title variations will get different ones for different titles

        • 2012-08-05 21824, 2012

      • drsaunde
        biggest problem though is those ISRC submitters that are wrong so often

        • 2012-08-05 21854, 2012

      • drsaunde
        also some recordings will get licensed in multiple countries

        • 2012-08-05 21838, 2012

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      • drsaunde
        so please don't believe the wiki page about ISRCs... its mostly bullcrap

        • 2012-08-05 21845, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, the page does say "and even identical recordings released in different countries or continents" :p

        • 2012-08-05 21821, 2012

      • drsaunde
        just read again..the current version isn't as bad as it was

        • 2012-08-05 21833, 2012

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      • intgr
        luks: Ping?

        • 2012-08-05 21854, 2012

      • intgr
        luks: https://github.com/lalinsky/acoustid-fingerprinte… https://github.com/lalinsky/chromaprint/pull/23

        • 2012-08-05 21848, 2012

      • intgr
        The 1st is necessary to get acoustid-fingerprinter to build on Arch Linux

        • 2012-08-05 21828, 2012

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      • CallerNo6
        grrr. trying to install picard from wheezy (on an otherwise squeeze install) wants "183 upgraded, 158 newly installed". I musta dun sumthin wrong.

        • 2012-08-05 21812, 2012

      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, so where do you find those ISRCs? It is not like the ISBN on books that is always there on the back...

        • 2012-08-05 21837, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For Hyperion for example they actually have them on their site

        • 2012-08-05 21843, 2012

      • reosarevok
        A few other labels do the same

        • 2012-08-05 21843, 2012

      • Vorpal
        hm

        • 2012-08-05 21802, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In most cases, though, they come from either the CD-Text or other places like spotify

        • 2012-08-05 21810, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Or the SCPP database

        • 2012-08-05 21821, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Or the Japanese ISRC database

        • 2012-08-05 21830, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (the Japanese are the only ones who have a good open DB for it)

        • 2012-08-05 21828, 2012

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      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, done with Grieg yet? :D

        • 2012-08-05 21823, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I would, if I hadn't followed links and ended up fixing unrelated stuff :p

        • 2012-08-05 21833, 2012

      • reosarevok
        3 releases left

        • 2012-08-05 21844, 2012

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      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, still have that link for the other record left?

        • 2012-08-05 21855, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Which one?

        • 2012-08-05 21808, 2012

      • Vorpal
        reosarevok, the "baroque for meditation" one

        • 2012-08-05 21820, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, the images are open there in the browser

        • 2012-08-05 21823, 2012

      • Vorpal
        right

        • 2012-08-05 21826, 2012

      • reosarevok
        At some point I'll get to them

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