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      • marianaaf
        sorry
      • 2012-05-16 13745, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-05-16 13729, 2012

      • reosarevok was checking to see if they never used EP on cover and saw they do, in a way which seems to differentiatie EPs from singles, too
      • 2012-05-16 13730, 2012

      • marianaaf
        oh ok ;)
      • 2012-05-16 13738, 2012

      • marianaaf
        sorry
      • 2012-05-16 13750, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (since the ones with EP on the cover are different songs, not single + remix)
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      • marianaaf
        yes in that case they include two different songs
      • 2012-05-16 13718, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, btw
      • 2012-05-16 13723, 2012

      • marianaaf
        exactly
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      • marianaaf
        thanks ;)
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      • reosarevok
        I imagine you've noticed the changes by now
      • 2012-05-16 13730, 2012

      • marianaaf
        yeees ;)
      • 2012-05-16 13739, 2012

      • marianaaf
        thanks thanks many thanks!
      • 2012-05-16 13740, 2012

      • marianaaf
        ;)
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      • reosarevok
        But I don't know if you've seen you can select several secondary types by control-clicking
      • 2012-05-16 13743, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-05-16 13702, 2012

      • marianaaf
        oh that one didn't know but that's awesome!
      • 2012-05-16 13715, 2012

      • marianaaf
        ehehe now I'll add single+remix which is amazing
      • 2012-05-16 13740, 2012

      • _5moufl
        is it just me or MB is superslow?
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      • ocharles
        _5moufl: basic browsing seems ok for me
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I haven't noticed anything too bad
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      • roosoft
        \q
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      • _5moufl
        nvm ocharles, it's just my wifi :x
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      • _5moufl
        sometimes it slows down until I reinstall the (same) driver :s
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      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2012-05-16 13701, 2012

      • reosarevok
        "Abusing wireless to download new MusicBrainz dump (@ The Phoenix Cinema)"
      • 2012-05-16 13732, 2012

      • mat_
        hum, I can't seem to find one, but is there some kind of plugin for picard that would add lyrics to tracks ?
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      • noobie
        $if($eq(%album%,'[non-album]')
      • 2012-05-16 13736, 2012

      • noobie
        is this valid?
      • 2012-05-16 13745, 2012

      • noobie
        ah without ' '
      • 2012-05-16 13736, 2012

      • Mineo
        you're missing at least one parenthesis
      • 2012-05-16 13757, 2012

      • noobie
        yes it's if(arg1,arg2,..)...
      • 2012-05-16 13751, 2012

      • mat_
        hum, more than one iswc for a work ?
      • 2012-05-16 13747, 2012

      • mat_
        many userscripts broke, damn, better call it a day and decide it's the week end
      • 2012-05-16 13724, 2012

      • reosarevok
        mat_: sadly, it happens
      • 2012-05-16 13738, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (having two or even three ISWCs for the same thing)
      • 2012-05-16 13721, 2012

      • mat_
        it happened to me but they were slightly different versions of the same work :-)
      • 2012-05-16 13733, 2012

      • mat_
        anyway, I said week end :-)
      • 2012-05-16 13751, 2012

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2012-05-16 13735, 2012

      • kepstin-work gets somewhat amused by the tags on http://allisonweiss.bandcamp.com/album/the-teenage-years - "rock" "antifolk" "folk" "folk rock"
      • 2012-05-16 13751, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        how can it be both 'antifolk' and 'folk'? wouldn't the world explode?
      • 2012-05-16 13723, 2012

      • noobie
        soooooooooooooooooooo weird
      • 2012-05-16 13725, 2012

      • warp
        all the anti- genres seem like slight variations of the non-anti genre, so to me it always seems like a bullshit prefix.
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      • SultS
        is single also considered a remix, if it has original + remixes on it?
      • 2012-05-16 13704, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        SultS: i'd say usually not - a lot of singles (maxi-singles?) come with various extra tracks, such as remixes.
      • 2012-05-16 13714, 2012

      • SultS
        so only if there is no original version on it?
      • 2012-05-16 13701, 2012

      • SultS
        oh, but it’s for a release group… and it can contain both variants
      • 2012-05-16 13741, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • reosarevok
        I don't know if there's a clear agreement on whether "X: The Remixes" is the same RG as X
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      • kepstin-work
        if they release a single that's marketed distinctly from the original single, and is primarily remixes, then it would go into a new release group
      • 2012-05-16 13702, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        imo
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      • SultS
        most singles I come across contain mostly mixes and/or remixes that are different from the original mix, but mostly also include the original… I would like have them all in the same group
      • 2012-05-16 13714, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        SultS: yeah, most of those are just considered different variations of the same single, with the remixes being extra/bonus tracks.
      • 2012-05-16 13704, 2012

      • SultS
        sure, but some of these don’t have the original, yet released at the same time as the rest
      • 2012-05-16 13712, 2012

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      • dubwai
        hey why it's not possible to upload simple avatar
      • 2012-05-16 13728, 2012

      • hawke_
        dubwai: “simple avatar”?
      • 2012-05-16 13730, 2012

      • reosarevok
        dubwai: because that would mean we have to store the avatars ourselves
      • 2012-05-16 13749, 2012

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: cover art archive? ;-)
      • 2012-05-16 13754, 2012

      • dubwai
        i don't like web2.0 collecting personal information service, but i like to show my "face"
      • 2012-05-16 13729, 2012

      • dubwai
        lol musicbrainz forum save avatar, but main site not possible?
      • 2012-05-16 13739, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's pre-built in the forum
      • 2012-05-16 13741, 2012

      • dubwai
        10kb is so much :-D
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      • reosarevok
        Maybe it will be done later, I don't know - the point was more avoiding coding all that, I think
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      • dubwai
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      • reosarevok
        Well, that's why it's optional :)
      • 2012-05-16 13705, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Another way of having an avatar would be nice, but it's admittedly not a very big priority
      • 2012-05-16 13759, 2012

      • dubwai
        yes priority is not bit :-)
      • 2012-05-16 13727, 2012

      • dubwai
        also why blog header don't follow to blog home page
      • 2012-05-16 13754, 2012

      • dubwai
        i foung "Blog Home" at right side ~1 minute
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      • dubwai
        *found
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      • hawke_
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      • hawke_
        Can anyone think of any possible examples of an '(radio drama|audiobook) (album|single|ep)' before I propose those as additional primary types?
      • 2012-05-16 13742, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        machigaeta_mofumofushitaio's english isn't great, but you could ask him to confirm that the albums were performed live for an audience.
      • 2012-05-16 13742, 2012

      • hawke_
        kepstin-work: It wasn’t that I don’t trust it, I just think it’s good to see combinations. :-)
      • 2012-05-16 13729, 2012

      • hawke_
        http://www.discogs.com/release/293350 : misspelling, or artist intent? :-)
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      • hawke_
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      • reosarevok
        huh
      • 2012-05-16 13716, 2012

      • reosarevok
        "creating new imaginary words for stylistic purposes"
      • 2012-05-16 13723, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Does this suggest those should be "fixed"?
      • 2012-05-16 13758, 2012

      • hawke_
        I would say it does.
      • 2012-05-16 13702, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I mean, the examples seem to imply "no", but then the writing of the rationale is confusing
      • 2012-05-16 13707, 2012

      • CatCat
        wtf is a anti-x genre?
      • 2012-05-16 13721, 2012

      • CatCat
        I'm listening to any-crap?
      • 2012-05-16 13724, 2012

      • reosarevok
        CatCat: the same as a genre, but done by pedantic hipsters
      • 2012-05-16 13725, 2012

      • CatCat
        :P
      • 2012-05-16 13727, 2012

      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Queen ~ One Vision (5:50) (from Live at Wembley '86 (disc 1)) (1986)
      • 2012-05-16 13741, 2012

      • dubwai
        in picard will be add changes to show primary and secondary types?
      • 2012-05-16 13746, 2012

      • dubwai
        in tags
      • 2012-05-16 13750, 2012

      • hawke_
        Isn’t it basically “alternative x”?
      • 2012-05-16 13751, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        to be precise, anti-folk is simply folk done be people who don't like being labelled as folk.
      • 2012-05-16 13757, 2012

      • hawke_
        or “neo x”?
      • 2012-05-16 13703, 2012

      • hawke_
        or “neo-neo x”
      • 2012-05-16 13707, 2012

      • reosarevok
        dubwai: probably - ask bitmap or luks, but probably
      • 2012-05-16 13714, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        the amusing thing is just that the release I linked is tagged both 'folk' and 'antifolk' :)
      • 2012-05-16 13756, 2012

      • kepstin-work wants a way to mark which alias is the artist's "native"-language name.
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      • hawke_
        reosarevok: the examples are actually counter-examples or exceptions
      • 2012-05-16 13707, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        (so I can grab the native-language sortname)
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      • dubwai
        d
      • 2012-05-16 13748, 2012

      • CatCat
        re [17:49] reosarevok "creating new imaginary words for stylistic purposes"
      • 2012-05-16 13753, 2012

      • CatCat
        se ENGRISH
      • 2012-05-16 13758, 2012

      • hawke_
        how long is you long your hair to be grow to be?
      • 2012-05-16 13711, 2012

      • CatCat
        I ams to not knows this
      • 2012-05-16 13731, 2012

      • CatCat
        but every non-n<tive does this at soem pint
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      • CallerNo6
        bizarro!
      • 2012-05-16 13735, 2012

      • CatCat
        we do it ven i nnorway
      • 2012-05-16 13747, 2012

      • CatCat
        it's called "engorsk"
      • 2012-05-16 13710, 2012

      • CatCat
        swedish/norwegian mangeled is caleld "svorsk"
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      • reosarevok
        hawke_: my point is that "creating new imaginary words for stylistic purposes" sounds like pretty much the definition of artist intent
      • 2012-05-16 13727, 2012

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: Yep.
      • 2012-05-16 13746, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That's like correcting Motörhead because "Motor doesn't have that weird thing!!!!"
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      • CatCat
        even if not non-native english, peopel are bound to see this and make up shit becasue they think it's "cool"
      • 2012-05-16 13701, 2012

      • CatCat
        thoghu I don't mind whne peopelpaly with language
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      • CatCat
        reosarevok: dude totally
      • 2012-05-16 13733, 2012

      • CatCat
        hn fail typing why today?
      • 2012-05-16 13758, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • reosarevok wants to think voters would be like wtfdudeno
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      • CallerNo6
        You Are Nothing If Not a Hound-dog
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      • reosarevok
        :(
      • 2012-05-16 13755, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Why aren't there more rap listeners on style
      • 2012-05-16 13708, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I'm never going to get opinions about the mixtape/street thing
      • 2012-05-16 13732, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        Forums? (when they work)
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      • reosarevok
        That adds... maybe one or two
      • 2012-05-16 13727, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (I mean, the only one I know for sure is voice and he suggested the wording)
      • 2012-05-16 13737, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        um, ping known active hip-hop-minded editors and ask them to weigh in?
      • 2012-05-16 13721, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Maybe
      • 2012-05-16 13726, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Guess it won't hurt
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      • CallerNo6
        It's worked for me (although I got no sense of whether it annoyed the editors I pinged, because I'm too self-absorbed to know that sort of thing)
      • 2012-05-16 13705, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess if they mind they can not answer :p
      • 2012-05-16 13759, 2012

      • CallerNo6 is trying to think of an example of a "classical" work w/ two composers. can't figure out how to craft a search string.
      • 2012-05-16 13714, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        of course there's http://musicbrainz.org/work/45ec51ab-2614-33fd-89… but that's pretty sketchy
      • 2012-05-16 13756, 2012

      • hawke_
        Wow, this looks like a clusterfuck: http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/2e515ed9-3a2…