kepstin-work wonders why he hadn't heard about it until last year
2012-05-14 13520, 2012
nikki
maybe you're thinking of [none] for catnos, that's new
2012-05-14 13527, 2012
nikki
as is no barcode
2012-05-14 13559, 2012
nikki
ocharles: yeah... now I need to figure out how to create pl/perl functions :P
2012-05-14 13502, 2012
kepstin-work
no, I'm pretty sure I haven't seen or used 'no label' until sometime last year :/
2012-05-14 13519, 2012
nikki
weird
2012-05-14 13522, 2012
kepstin-work
nikki: sub functionname { code }
2012-05-14 13527, 2012
kepstin-work
:)
2012-05-14 13536, 2012
ocharles
nikki: try CREATE FUNCTION canonical_url(url TEXT) RETURNS TEXT AS $$ use URI; return URI->new(shift)->canonical->to_string; $$ LANGUAGE 'plperl' IMMUTABLE RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT
2012-05-14 13546, 2012
kepstin-work
oh, in the database
2012-05-14 13546, 2012
ocharles
erm, language plperlu
2012-05-14 13500, 2012
nikki
kepstin-work: maybe you're too used to japanese stuff with relatively easy labels :)
2012-05-14 13510, 2012
nikki
yeah, I do know enough perl to be able to do sub foo { } :P
2012-05-14 13537, 2012
kepstin-work
nikki: well, I've done a lot of the independently released touhou music, which should all be under [no label].
2012-05-14 13555, 2012
nikki
oh right
2012-05-14 13500, 2012
kepstin-work
(most of it's not; and just has unset labels right now)
2012-05-14 13538, 2012
kepstin-work
occasionally it looks like people have added a new label for the circle; which I think isn't totally incorrect...
2012-05-14 13514, 2012
kepstin-work
(although that brings up all the artist as label/label as artist issues again)
2012-05-14 13503, 2012
nikki
I probably edited some to use labels, but eventually I just started ignoring it. I don't know or care enough about it all
2012-05-14 13550, 2012
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2012-05-14 13503, 2012
nikki
although maybe not the same things you're talking about... confusing stuff where it looked like a company
2012-05-14 13520, 2012
nikki
ocharles: hmm, I have the name and need to turn it into a url though, so would it be $foo = shift; $foo = "http://blahblah/$foo"; return URI->new($foo)... ?
2012-05-14 13543, 2012
ocharles
yea, that should work too
2012-05-14 13545, 2012
kepstin-work
IOSYS is one of the really strange ones - they've practically turned from an independent doujin circle to a music production company nowadays... http://www.iosysos.com/
2012-05-14 13558, 2012
ocharles
you'll probably have to play around, but that should give you the general idea
2012-05-14 13519, 2012
kepstin-work
if you just take a look at the current IOSYS front page, it would certainly be reasonable to assume they're a label...
2012-05-14 13543, 2012
nikki
feh. ERROR: language "plperl" does not exist
2012-05-14 13549, 2012
nikki looks for it
2012-05-14 13523, 2012
nikki
err... I apparently already have it installed
2012-05-14 13522, 2012
hawke_
reosarevok: Happy belated birthday.
2012-05-14 13527, 2012
reosarevok
heh
2012-05-14 13529, 2012
reosarevok
Thanks :)
2012-05-14 13537, 2012
nikki
it was your birthday? :o
2012-05-14 13549, 2012
reosarevok
On Sat, yea
2012-05-14 13527, 2012
nikki
now you're even older! >:P
2012-05-14 13549, 2012
nikki
meh... it doesn't want to work
2012-05-14 13555, 2012
nikki
"ERROR: creation of Perl function "canonical_url" failed: Unable to load URI.pm into plperl at line 1."
2012-05-14 13514, 2012
hawke_
http://musicbrainz.org/recording/f975d8b0-228e-4a… — it seems slightly wrong to have those as all the same recording, and yet going by the fingerprints they obviously are all the same recording (presumably terminated at different points)
2012-05-14 13539, 2012
hawke_
Anyone else have an opinion on the matter?
2012-05-14 13510, 2012
marianaaf
reosarevok: happy birthday! :)
2012-05-14 13534, 2012
nikki
hawke_: if those times are correct, then it seems odd to me to have them combined like that. 30 seconds between the shortest and longest is a pretty big difference
2012-05-14 13528, 2012
hawke_
Agreed.
2012-05-14 13546, 2012
hawke_
But I don’t think we have clear guidelines on where that cutoff is, either.
2012-05-14 13515, 2012
hawke_
Or maybe *any* guidelines
2012-05-14 13525, 2012
kepstin-work
given that this is a live track, I'd bet that the 30 seconds difference is mostly crowd noises and mc talk.
2012-05-14 13542, 2012
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marianaaf
when adding a cover to the CAA, and there are severall releases with the same cover, to which one do I add cover? the digital? the physical?
2012-05-14 13528, 2012
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marianaaf
both?
2012-05-14 13536, 2012
kepstin-work
marianaaf: all!
2012-05-14 13540, 2012
hawke_
marianaaf: both, unfortunately
2012-05-14 13557, 2012
marianaaf
humpf
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reosarevok
Ideally, you would upload the digital cover to digital and a scan to the physical
2012-05-14 13532, 2012
jacobbrett
Speaking of which, does anyone know whether CAA stores identical images on their end?...the file names come out differently, at least.
2012-05-14 13535, 2012
kepstin-work
the reason for this is that in many cases, we have release-specific cover art - i.e. scans from a particular physical release
2012-05-14 13552, 2012
kepstin-work
I think it would be nice if we could add a generic/default cover image for a release group, though...
2012-05-14 13509, 2012
reosarevok
But I doubt people are going to go with that ideal if they want their specific edition tagged though...
2012-05-14 13525, 2012
reosarevok
jacobbrett: I think they do, yes
2012-05-14 13529, 2012
jacobbrett
reosarevok: Why is a scan ideal if you happen to have a high-res copy?
2012-05-14 13531, 2012
reosarevok
Not that they're going to run out of space
2012-05-14 13534, 2012
jacobbrett
Oh, good to know, then.
2012-05-14 13542, 2012
marianaaf
yes I understand that it has to be possible to add different covers when necessary. but it would be so nice to say, when adding a cover, this is the same to that release and also to that one
2012-05-14 13546, 2012
reosarevok
They have like millions of terabytes
2012-05-14 13500, 2012
kepstin-work
I'll sometimes upload an artist-provided digital image as 'front' to a physical release if it looks better than the scan I have.
2012-05-14 13506, 2012
kepstin-work
(along with the real scan, as well)
2012-05-14 13506, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah, that too
2012-05-14 13523, 2012
reosarevok
jacobbrett: scans are ideal because they prove specific releases
2012-05-14 13540, 2012
reosarevok
(admittedly, they're less important for fronts since those are more likely to be the same)
2012-05-14 13547, 2012
jacobbrett
I add the digital version if all the details match what was printed exactly, otherwise to the rel/rel group annotation.
2012-05-14 13506, 2012
hawke_
kepstin-work: having listened to the two longer versions of the “Everything Counts” recording, you are almost certainly correct about what is on the end.
2012-05-14 13517, 2012
hawke_
(I don’t have the vinyl)
2012-05-14 13515, 2012
hawke_
The longest one (~6:38) also suffers from some Loudness Wars and a fair amount of clipping
2012-05-14 13527, 2012
hawke_
so I’ll make it a separate recording
2012-05-14 13516, 2012
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hawke_
And what do you know, it was me who merged them. :-/
2012-05-14 13501, 2012
Mineo
is there any vgmdb importer out there?
2012-05-14 13502, 2012
hawke_
With a comment describing the way in which they were different.
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kepstin-work
Mineo: you don't really need a vgmdb importer, you can just copy/paste the tracklists into the parser...
2012-05-14 13515, 2012
Mineo
sure, but that still leaves the artist and release title fields :P
Ideally, what the cover says. since the site has with and our tracklist too, I'd keep the with
2012-05-14 13524, 2012
reosarevok
Almost certainly correct
2012-05-14 13543, 2012
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marianaaf
ok, thanks
2012-05-14 13503, 2012
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2012-05-14 13534, 2012
reosarevok
We change "ft." and "f/" and "featuring" and other clearly " feat. " equivalents to " feat. "
2012-05-14 13545, 2012
reosarevok
But apart from that, I'd go with whatever is there
2012-05-14 13532, 2012
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grimeton
hi
2012-05-14 13543, 2012
grimeton
where does picard store it's settings?
2012-05-14 13548, 2012
grimeton
inside $home in a subfolder?
2012-05-14 13555, 2012
kepstin-work
grimeton: what operating system?
2012-05-14 13558, 2012
grimeton
os x
2012-05-14 13546, 2012
kepstin-work
hmm. on Linux, it's $HOME/.config/MusicBrainz/Picard - i'm not sure where it goes on os x :/
2012-05-14 13501, 2012
grimeton
same
2012-05-14 13506, 2012
grimeton
there is .config in my home
2012-05-14 13521, 2012
Mineo
grimeton: that depends on qsettings, you can find the documentation about that on http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/QSettings.html (there a section "location where application settings are stored")
2012-05-14 13527, 2012
grimeton
i was looking for a subfolder in ~/Library/Application\ Support/
2012-05-14 13556, 2012
grimeton
Mineo: yeah, i just downloaded the installer image from musicbrainz.org - so i guess it's the "default"
2012-05-14 13541, 2012
kepstin-work
hmm, according to those docs, it should be Library/Preferences/org.MusicBrainz.Picard.conf, I think.
2012-05-14 13524, 2012
grimeton
there is a plist file in ~/Library/Preferences
2012-05-14 13530, 2012
grimeton
it's called org.musicbrainz.picard.plist
2012-05-14 13540, 2012
kepstin-work
er, yeah, that would be it.
2012-05-14 13503, 2012
grimeton
hm, let me check
2012-05-14 13505, 2012
grimeton
just copying the plist file over didn't change the settings in picard
2012-05-14 13505, 2012
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kepstin-work
maybe nikki knows? She runs picard on OS X, I think.
2012-05-14 13555, 2012
grimeton
hm, there are multiple domains involved
2012-05-14 13531, 2012
grimeton
aaah
2012-05-14 13543, 2012
grimeton
i have to copy com.musicbrainz* and org.musicbrainz*
2012-05-14 13547, 2012
grimeton
now it's working :)
2012-05-14 13548, 2012
grimeton
thanks
2012-05-14 13519, 2012
kepstin-work
huh, why is there a com.musicbrainz.*
2012-05-14 13526, 2012
grimeton
no idea
2012-05-14 13531, 2012
kepstin-work
sounds like a bug :)
2012-05-14 13546, 2012
kepstin-work
whatever - if we change it now, people will lose their settings if they upgrade
2012-05-14 13514, 2012
nikki
it could learn to migrate the settings :P
2012-05-14 13508, 2012
grimeton
whatever, it's working now :)
2012-05-14 13510, 2012
grimeton
thanks again
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reosarevok likes hawke_'s latest wiki edit :)
2012-05-14 13544, 2012
reosarevok
(but it might need a wikilink ;) )
2012-05-14 13523, 2012
hawke_
true
2012-05-14 13509, 2012
hawke_
hmm, I wonder if it might be good to move that extra level of normalization into the release group title style for soundtracks?
2012-05-14 13547, 2012
hawke_
Are there cases where we want soundtracks for the same film/show to be in a different RG?
2012-05-14 13539, 2012
hawke_
reosarevok: wikilink added. still not sure about the 'alternate names/role' bit ('foo theme').
