(you'd have a more... button to show the hidden relationships, which would take you to the relationships tab)
reosarevok
heh
kepstin-work
maybe use AR dates to only show current members
reosarevok
That's starting to sound more like classic MB with each step
kepstin-work
or for ended artists, members at time of end
reosarevok
But it does sound reasonable
kepstin-work
I mean, we might as well use AR dates for /something/ ;)
reosarevok
Especially if not displayed like that
But on a line
"Members: A, B, C, D, E"
(now it sounds like discogs)
(but I think they do have a decent design for that)
kepstin-work
"Current Members: A (1987-), B (1991-), C (founder), D
"
(missing closing quotes are almost as bad as missing closing parens)
reosarevok feels that kepstin-work feels like mockuping :p
no, I /am/ doing actual work at work.
reosarevok
I said "feel" :p
kepstin-work
maybe this weekend, except that I wanted to work on musicbrainz library for riker.
reosarevok
Not "will rush to do it"
Substitute sleep with caffeine and you can do both! 8)
(mostly kidding)
kepstin-work still kind of misses his awesome design on http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mbmockups/release.html
dubwai
reosarevok: so i found situation that 2 performs of one person, both no his legal name
reosarevok
Why do you miss it? It's there:p
dubwai: do you know what the legal name is?
dubwai
yes
reosarevok
Then add that, and relate both to it
(a bit like works and recordings, come to think of it :) )
kepstin-work
that was an interesting hack, because it was actually made by adding an additional stylesheet on top of the musicbrainz stylesheet.
brianfreud
kepstin-work, problem I'm finding with even the current version, but even more with that mockup, is that on my new 24", the durations are WAY too far separated from the titles
dubwai: in a lot of cases, legal names are the ways stuff like "lyricist" is credited
brianfreud
ie, send them an image in any format via a ws API, get back an image in the format you specify?
kepstin-work
reosarevok: I purposefully cut it off at half a line to give a visual clue that there is more below that you can expand to see.
reosarevok
But sometimes yeah, they're empty
kepstin-work: oh, I see
But there's not :p
That's kinda my point
kepstin-work
reosarevok: but yeah, in the case where there's not, I should show the whole thing
(I need to be clever about it, to keep the vertical rhythm stable)
reosarevok
Vertical rhythm
heh
designers
kepstin-work isn't a designer! he just dabbles ;)
reosarevok is still a fan of the old-school "just put all the info there in a crap-ass list"
But for casual browsing, that looks nice
kepstin-work actually designed a website for something in exchange for a gmail invite back when it was in early beta.
brianfreud
kepstin-work, maybe this sounds too google-plus, but I like the amount of whitespace on the sides; it gives someone like me room to add stuff :P
reosarevok
Like a cat!
dubwai
reosarevok: look if artist "Herman" and he had alias tupe legal name "Herman Chin-Loy" may be connect another entier "The Teacher" to just "Herman" ?
kepstin-work
brianfreud: that's using an old version of bootstrap - newer ones would actually stretch it out /slightly/ wider for you.
reosarevok
I guess you could
kepstin-work
but hey, you could always use the extra space for userscripts ;)
reosarevok
As you can see, our implementation of the whole performance+legal name thing is a bit amateurish :)
kepstin-work also has http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mbmockups/ac-editor.html whish is kind of fun.
kepstin-work
drag+drop artist credit editor :)
dubwai
this blue color is not good for me ))
reosarevok
It'd be more impressive if one could actually change the credits
(and see them change up there)
kepstin-work
well, it was a /very/ quick javascript hack. I put no effort into that
reosarevok
:)
kepstin-work
but yes, a live-updating preview is certainly possible.
reosarevok
Anyway, I want a better MB page, but I have an MB page
I want an MB player and I have none, so concentrate on that first! ;)
kepstin-work
heh
dubwai
reosarevok: adding this "fake" legal name entires work not good work, when someone add to them releases instead of main entires
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reosarevok
Agreed. We clearly need artist groups!
(only half-kidding)
dubwai
also bad thing that you don't get email notifacaion if don't subscribe
kepstin-work
I'm still not sure of where exactly I'm going for the design of riker. Does a standalone music player still make sense nowadays?
reosarevok
What's the other option?
kepstin-work
reosarevok: I dunno, something like that tomahawk music player, where it has distributed library support and the ability to play web media and playdar stuff?
(but no musicbraizn support, arg!)
reosarevok
"playdar" sounds like "gaydar"
(go Bender!)
What is it?
I haven't looked into this Tomahawk thing... but I mean, what's "standalone" nowadays?
Is it like Diablo III single-player?
kepstin-work
reosarevok: no, like DIablo II single-player.
reosarevok
Oh, so it's still the reasonable thing I can use without the net
Good
That's sensible
That being said, I'm happy to have other things on top
kepstin-work
well, dynamic musicbrainz metadata updates wouldn't work offline, but it caches metadata locally so you could still use it.
reosarevok
Say, "if MB has a soundcloud page, add a soundcloud tab where you can play its contents"
kepstin-work
reosarevok: the thing is, I have multiple computers with copies of my music library. I should have them synchronized somehow - what does that mean?
(my desktop has all my music as flac, my laptop has the same music, re-encoded to vorbis)
reosarevok
Easy!
That you're a music nerd
:)
kepstin-work
the ideal would mean syncing as much stuff as possible /through/ the musicbrainz api
reosarevok
So you would want it to keep track of it and map it?
kepstin-work
so stuff like rating on one would save the rating to mbz, and it would then update in the other
reosarevok
Well, if it has the same MBID that should be simple...
"simple"
kepstin-work
keeping track of playcounts could be done initially through an audioscrobbler service, but that doesn't support syncing in reverse due to no mbids.
reosarevok
Not that I know how to do it
noobie
when exactly does changing artist info become auto-edit?
hawke_1
noobie: When you’re only adding information
reosarevok
noobie: when you only add stuff and don't change anything that's there, I think
kepstin-work
noobie: adding information to a currently blank field.
reosarevok
hah
noobie
i just renamed an artist
reosarevok
Only capitalisation changes?
noobie
yep
hawke_1
Anyone know how I should put a begin date of “the 1950s”?
1950, and annotation?
kepstin-work
hawke_: 1952-04-12
reosarevok
Capitalisation changes are autoedits
(for basically everything)
dubwai
reosarevok: so artist groups are planned?
reosarevok
dubwai: not really
hawke_1
kepstin-work: I like it. :-)
kepstin-work dislikes capitalization changes being auto-edits, but then again he edits weird japanese stuff that people keep breaking the purposefully 'wrong' capitalization on.
reosarevok
There are no big big changes planned for now
But I can see something like that existing at some point
kepstin-work
once we store scripts for stuff, we could do something clever like only allowing capitalization autoedits for scripts with capitalization :)
reosarevok
hawke_1: asking for "circa" dates for the next schema change?
8)
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hawke_1
Maybe I should just…yeah, that. :-)
kepstin-work
but yeah - anyone guess what the issue with playdar is?
