(you'd have a more... button to show the hidden relationships, which would take you to the relationships tab)
2012-05-18 13924, 2012
reosarevok
heh
2012-05-18 13929, 2012
kepstin-work
maybe use AR dates to only show current members
2012-05-18 13934, 2012
reosarevok
That's starting to sound more like classic MB with each step
2012-05-18 13935, 2012
kepstin-work
or for ended artists, members at time of end
2012-05-18 13958, 2012
reosarevok
But it does sound reasonable
2012-05-18 13959, 2012
kepstin-work
I mean, we might as well use AR dates for /something/ ;)
2012-05-18 13904, 2012
reosarevok
Especially if not displayed like that
2012-05-18 13907, 2012
reosarevok
But on a line
2012-05-18 13920, 2012
reosarevok
"Members: A, B, C, D, E"
2012-05-18 13931, 2012
reosarevok
(now it sounds like discogs)
2012-05-18 13944, 2012
reosarevok
(but I think they do have a decent design for that)
2012-05-18 13946, 2012
kepstin-work
"Current Members: A (1987-), B (1991-), C (founder), D
2012-05-18 13929, 2012
kepstin-work
"
2012-05-18 13940, 2012
kepstin-work
(missing closing quotes are almost as bad as missing closing parens)
2012-05-18 13904, 2012
reosarevok feels that kepstin-work feels like mockuping :p
2012-05-18 13926, 2012
kepstin-work
no, I /am/ doing actual work at work.
2012-05-18 13940, 2012
reosarevok
I said "feel" :p
2012-05-18 13942, 2012
kepstin-work
maybe this weekend, except that I wanted to work on musicbrainz library for riker.
2012-05-18 13946, 2012
reosarevok
Not "will rush to do it"
2012-05-18 13901, 2012
reosarevok
Substitute sleep with caffeine and you can do both! 8)
2012-05-18 13924, 2012
reosarevok
(mostly kidding)
2012-05-18 13930, 2012
kepstin-work still kind of misses his awesome design on http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mbmockups/release.html
2012-05-18 13949, 2012
dubwai
reosarevok: so i found situation that 2 performs of one person, both no his legal name
2012-05-18 13955, 2012
reosarevok
Why do you miss it? It's there:p
2012-05-18 13914, 2012
reosarevok
dubwai: do you know what the legal name is?
2012-05-18 13924, 2012
dubwai
yes
2012-05-18 13930, 2012
reosarevok
Then add that, and relate both to it
2012-05-18 13939, 2012
reosarevok
(a bit like works and recordings, come to think of it :) )
2012-05-18 13942, 2012
kepstin-work
that was an interesting hack, because it was actually made by adding an additional stylesheet on top of the musicbrainz stylesheet.
2012-05-18 13945, 2012
brianfreud
kepstin-work, problem I'm finding with even the current version, but even more with that mockup, is that on my new 24", the durations are WAY too far separated from the titles
dubwai: in a lot of cases, legal names are the ways stuff like "lyricist" is credited
2012-05-18 13930, 2012
brianfreud
ie, send them an image in any format via a ws API, get back an image in the format you specify?
2012-05-18 13932, 2012
kepstin-work
reosarevok: I purposefully cut it off at half a line to give a visual clue that there is more below that you can expand to see.
2012-05-18 13933, 2012
reosarevok
But sometimes yeah, they're empty
2012-05-18 13939, 2012
reosarevok
kepstin-work: oh, I see
2012-05-18 13945, 2012
reosarevok
But there's not :p
2012-05-18 13949, 2012
reosarevok
That's kinda my point
2012-05-18 13955, 2012
kepstin-work
reosarevok: but yeah, in the case where there's not, I should show the whole thing
2012-05-18 13919, 2012
kepstin-work
(I need to be clever about it, to keep the vertical rhythm stable)
2012-05-18 13931, 2012
reosarevok
Vertical rhythm
2012-05-18 13932, 2012
reosarevok
heh
2012-05-18 13934, 2012
reosarevok
designers
2012-05-18 13943, 2012
kepstin-work isn't a designer! he just dabbles ;)
2012-05-18 13909, 2012
reosarevok is still a fan of the old-school "just put all the info there in a crap-ass list"
2012-05-18 13918, 2012
reosarevok
But for casual browsing, that looks nice
2012-05-18 13923, 2012
kepstin-work actually designed a website for something in exchange for a gmail invite back when it was in early beta.
2012-05-18 13932, 2012
brianfreud
kepstin-work, maybe this sounds too google-plus, but I like the amount of whitespace on the sides; it gives someone like me room to add stuff :P
2012-05-18 13945, 2012
reosarevok
Like a cat!
2012-05-18 13959, 2012
dubwai
reosarevok: look if artist "Herman" and he had alias tupe legal name "Herman Chin-Loy" may be connect another entier "The Teacher" to just "Herman" ?
2012-05-18 13912, 2012
kepstin-work
brianfreud: that's using an old version of bootstrap - newer ones would actually stretch it out /slightly/ wider for you.
2012-05-18 13915, 2012
reosarevok
I guess you could
2012-05-18 13924, 2012
kepstin-work
but hey, you could always use the extra space for userscripts ;)
2012-05-18 13941, 2012
reosarevok
As you can see, our implementation of the whole performance+legal name thing is a bit amateurish :)
2012-05-18 13906, 2012
kepstin-work also has http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mbmockups/ac-editor.html whish is kind of fun.
2012-05-18 13917, 2012
kepstin-work
drag+drop artist credit editor :)
2012-05-18 13907, 2012
dubwai
this blue color is not good for me ))
2012-05-18 13908, 2012
reosarevok
It'd be more impressive if one could actually change the credits
2012-05-18 13924, 2012
reosarevok
(and see them change up there)
2012-05-18 13915, 2012
kepstin-work
well, it was a /very/ quick javascript hack. I put no effort into that
2012-05-18 13920, 2012
reosarevok
:)
2012-05-18 13936, 2012
kepstin-work
but yes, a live-updating preview is certainly possible.
2012-05-18 13921, 2012
reosarevok
Anyway, I want a better MB page, but I have an MB page
2012-05-18 13937, 2012
reosarevok
I want an MB player and I have none, so concentrate on that first! ;)
2012-05-18 13943, 2012
kepstin-work
heh
2012-05-18 13952, 2012
dubwai
reosarevok: adding this "fake" legal name entires work not good work, when someone add to them releases instead of main entires
2012-05-18 13919, 2012
brianfreud joined the channel
2012-05-18 13931, 2012
reosarevok
Agreed. We clearly need artist groups!
2012-05-18 13945, 2012
reosarevok
(only half-kidding)
2012-05-18 13909, 2012
dubwai
also bad thing that you don't get email notifacaion if don't subscribe
2012-05-18 13911, 2012
kepstin-work
I'm still not sure of where exactly I'm going for the design of riker. Does a standalone music player still make sense nowadays?
2012-05-18 13930, 2012
reosarevok
What's the other option?
2012-05-18 13906, 2012
kepstin-work
reosarevok: I dunno, something like that tomahawk music player, where it has distributed library support and the ability to play web media and playdar stuff?
2012-05-18 13914, 2012
kepstin-work
(but no musicbraizn support, arg!)
2012-05-18 13943, 2012
reosarevok
"playdar" sounds like "gaydar"
2012-05-18 13946, 2012
reosarevok
(go Bender!)
2012-05-18 13951, 2012
reosarevok
What is it?
2012-05-18 13927, 2012
reosarevok
I haven't looked into this Tomahawk thing... but I mean, what's "standalone" nowadays?
2012-05-18 13936, 2012
reosarevok
Is it like Diablo III single-player?
2012-05-18 13948, 2012
kepstin-work
reosarevok: no, like DIablo II single-player.
2012-05-18 13905, 2012
reosarevok
Oh, so it's still the reasonable thing I can use without the net
2012-05-18 13906, 2012
reosarevok
Good
2012-05-18 13909, 2012
reosarevok
That's sensible
2012-05-18 13924, 2012
reosarevok
That being said, I'm happy to have other things on top
2012-05-18 13935, 2012
kepstin-work
well, dynamic musicbrainz metadata updates wouldn't work offline, but it caches metadata locally so you could still use it.
2012-05-18 13940, 2012
reosarevok
Say, "if MB has a soundcloud page, add a soundcloud tab where you can play its contents"
2012-05-18 13922, 2012
kepstin-work
reosarevok: the thing is, I have multiple computers with copies of my music library. I should have them synchronized somehow - what does that mean?
2012-05-18 13943, 2012
kepstin-work
(my desktop has all my music as flac, my laptop has the same music, re-encoded to vorbis)
2012-05-18 13959, 2012
reosarevok
Easy!
2012-05-18 13904, 2012
reosarevok
That you're a music nerd
2012-05-18 13909, 2012
reosarevok
:)
2012-05-18 13918, 2012
kepstin-work
the ideal would mean syncing as much stuff as possible /through/ the musicbrainz api
2012-05-18 13934, 2012
reosarevok
So you would want it to keep track of it and map it?
2012-05-18 13935, 2012
kepstin-work
so stuff like rating on one would save the rating to mbz, and it would then update in the other
2012-05-18 13956, 2012
reosarevok
Well, if it has the same MBID that should be simple...
2012-05-18 13904, 2012
reosarevok
"simple"
2012-05-18 13908, 2012
kepstin-work
keeping track of playcounts could be done initially through an audioscrobbler service, but that doesn't support syncing in reverse due to no mbids.
2012-05-18 13910, 2012
reosarevok
Not that I know how to do it
2012-05-18 13914, 2012
noobie
when exactly does changing artist info become auto-edit?
2012-05-18 13932, 2012
hawke_1
noobie: When you’re only adding information
2012-05-18 13933, 2012
reosarevok
noobie: when you only add stuff and don't change anything that's there, I think
2012-05-18 13935, 2012
kepstin-work
noobie: adding information to a currently blank field.
2012-05-18 13937, 2012
reosarevok
hah
2012-05-18 13946, 2012
noobie
i just renamed an artist
2012-05-18 13955, 2012
reosarevok
Only capitalisation changes?
2012-05-18 13957, 2012
noobie
yep
2012-05-18 13907, 2012
hawke_1
Anyone know how I should put a begin date of “the 1950s”?
2012-05-18 13916, 2012
hawke_1
1950, and annotation?
2012-05-18 13925, 2012
kepstin-work
hawke_: 1952-04-12
2012-05-18 13930, 2012
reosarevok
Capitalisation changes are autoedits
2012-05-18 13935, 2012
reosarevok
(for basically everything)
2012-05-18 13947, 2012
dubwai
reosarevok: so artist groups are planned?
2012-05-18 13952, 2012
reosarevok
dubwai: not really
2012-05-18 13900, 2012
hawke_1
kepstin-work: I like it. :-)
2012-05-18 13901, 2012
kepstin-work dislikes capitalization changes being auto-edits, but then again he edits weird japanese stuff that people keep breaking the purposefully 'wrong' capitalization on.
2012-05-18 13904, 2012
reosarevok
There are no big big changes planned for now
2012-05-18 13917, 2012
reosarevok
But I can see something like that existing at some point
2012-05-18 13953, 2012
kepstin-work
once we store scripts for stuff, we could do something clever like only allowing capitalization autoedits for scripts with capitalization :)
2012-05-18 13916, 2012
reosarevok
hawke_1: asking for "circa" dates for the next schema change?
2012-05-18 13917, 2012
reosarevok
8)
2012-05-18 13918, 2012
brianfreud joined the channel
2012-05-18 13921, 2012
hawke_1
Maybe I should just…yeah, that. :-)
2012-05-18 13931, 2012
kepstin-work
but yeah - anyone guess what the issue with playdar is?
