I think und would be better than zxx here (or alternatively, the language of the rest of the album/work)
2012-10-15 28902, 2012
kovacsur
we don't have und, though
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v6lur
how to credit stuff that (according to liner notes) is "A traditional hymn after [Some Person from There and There]"?
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v6lur
[traditional], yes, but Some Person is...?
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v6lur
s/is/as/
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v6lur
arranger?
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v6lur
that might be kinda far-fetched for folk tunes
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CallerNo6
I generally interpret that as "I learned it from [Some Person]'s version" or "I play it in the style of [Some Person]" . I would put it in the annotation if anything.
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dubwai
"we release the latest and greatest schema" what mean greatest&
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dubwai
*?
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_5moufl
best
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ehrgeiz
is there anywhere info what this schema change is about?
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ehrgeiz
also i remember some talk about a classical summit, any news on that one?
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derwin
10:43 < v6lur> um, what's the consensus work language if it only has "la la la ..." thoughout the song?
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derwin
non-lexical vocables in music.
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_5moufl
no language ?
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_5moufl
or the language of the song title maybe
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Freso
v6lur: Yeah, put it in annotation or, for a work, possibly disambig.
2012-10-15 28910, 2012
Freso
_5moufl: As I said earlier, my vote is for not setting a language for such cases.
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kepstin-laptop
not setting a language doesn't make sense tho; that means that it's unknown. but we know that it's not a proper language.
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Freso
kepstin-laptop: However, it does have linguistic content but it is not a language. Not setting it means it's unset, not unknown. If we want to mark it as unknown, that should be a specific entry in the list.
ehrgeiz: Like I said, it has linguistic content but no language. ("Lalala" differs between linguistic domains.)
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Freso
linguistic content != language
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ehrgeiz
imho lalala is no linguistic content
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Freso
ehrgeiz: Too bad it isn't a matter of opinion then. :)
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ehrgeiz
Freso: wow massive scans. personally i don't see the practical use in having the printig grid visible. i'd run a descreen filter, resample it 50% size and sharpen it up a bit.
2012-10-15 28932, 2012
Freso
ehrgeiz: Apart from the "resample", the rest I'm pretty clueless about! :D
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reosarevok
Freso: "lalala" as in a vocalise is usually chosen so that it isn't linguistic content. Which I guess you could argue makes it linguistic somehow, but still :p
2012-10-15 28943, 2012
Freso goes to look in man convert if there's anything useful
"la la la" defintely connotes something different than "blah blah blah". Do we accept connotation as "linguistic"?
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CallerNo6
different "from"? whatever.
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ehrgeiz
it connotes nothing.. it's a substitute for an absent linguistic content.. therefor i wouldn't ascribe it any linguistic properties. at least thats my opinion as a layman.
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Freso
ehrgeiz: It connotes singing.
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Freso
ehrgeiz: Also, thanks for that link! I'll read up on it and see what I can do. :)
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ehrgeiz
Freso: i think i have quite another understanding of what connotation means than you.
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derwin
CallerNo6: I have one word for you
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derwin
CallerNo6: trolololololololololol
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CatCat
psh
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hawke_
wait, how does “singing” relate to “language”?
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CallerNo6
derwin, as I've said before, better the troll you know
hawke_: language is made up by "linguistic content". "Linguistic content" constitutes a lot of things which aren't tied to a language per se, but are still used in the personal language to express oneself. (Note how "language" there was two different things.)
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warp
CatCat: yes, that needs a sentence guess case.
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reosarevok
Will fix
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reosarevok
oh
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reosarevok
ffs
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reosarevok
juanjava
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reosarevok
how the fuck is he still able to edit without a mail set
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Freso misses his talks with his computational linguistics studying ex-gf - linguistics are <3
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CatCat
reosarevok: was he the guy adding that?
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reosarevok
Yep
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reosarevok
He's like the worst editor I've ever seen
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reosarevok
And isn't even able to enter stuff in Spanish correctly even though he seems to be Spanish
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reosarevok
Well, I hope this one does actually exist and is not taken from some crappy blog
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kepstin-laptop wouldn't upload scans in anything higher than 300dpi; the actual detail present in the offset-printed images isn't very high.
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kepstin-laptop
at least for photographic colour images. Stuff with only text on solid backgrounds might be nice to have higher-res, but only slightly.
CallerNo6: So? The issue is whether to use "no linguistic content" or not. Whether something is "linguistic" must necessarily be determined by linguists, who would say that it does indeed contain linguistic content. Thus, I'm saying that a "no language" would be a better option.
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CallerNo6 agrees
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CallerNo6
... with "no language"
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CallerNo6 is hesitant to put the linguists in charge of the asylum.
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CallerNo6
:-P
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Freso
Does anyone know if it's possible to store macros or something similar in The GIMP?
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CatCat
don't store stuff inside gimps freso, it's such a mess
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mb-chat-logger
New post: blog: Schema change postponed by 24 hours <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=1649>
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kepstin-laptop
Freso: gimp has a sort of scripting interface that can access most operations, filters, plugins, etc.
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CallerNo6 was finding that filters needed to be applied to selected areas. Otherwise fixing moire in one area blurred text in another.
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kepstin-laptop
I use some of the smart smoothing filters in the G'Mic plugin to avoid that problem
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kepstin-laptop
but I need to handle manual steps for image rotation and cropping etc. before doing any other filters
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Freso
Ugh.
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Freso
I just wanted to add some nice cover art. :(
2012-10-15 28957, 2012
Freso
Anyone want to have my scans and fix them up for prettyness?
Freso: imediatly i say "danish" I've never hreard of her and all the links and tag and shit say "da"
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CatCat
Freso: after reading the wikipage.. however I am not sure
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CallerNo6
CatCat: did that make sense to you? That there's a difference between "no language" and "no linguistic content"? So for instance, if Robert Plant had sung "blah blah blah-blah-blah-blah" in The Ocean it would have meant something different. And been more fun.
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CatCat
CallerNo6: I'm sorry I haven't really been paying attentino to that conversation. but I agree there's a differnce between "not a language" and "not langauge"
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CatCat
but to me, no linguistic content woudl be something liek guttural screams, or animal noices
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CatCat
in text
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CatCat
no linguistic context is ++-} as a song name
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CatCat
s/context/content
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CatCat
er actually I don't really know what Im talking about
