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      • CatCat
        what mean is "ther is a differnce between someting" and "not a language at all"
      • 2012-10-15 28945, 2012

      • CatCat
        so lalal dopidup is some kind of"language" while ++-- is no langiage whatso ever
      • 2012-10-15 28912, 2012

      • CatCat
        as far as lala vrs blah blah, it's very little differnce
      • 2012-10-15 28937, 2012

      • CatCat
        but blah blah has *meaning* as does "la la"
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      • CatCat
        and that "meaning" is slightly differnent
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      • CatCat
        sorry I am just talking i dunno.
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      • CatCat
        why are you asking me I'm just a cat
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      • CatCat away
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      • _5moufl
        Freso : scanning takes longer than ou expected uh?
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      • _5moufl
        :p
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      • derwin
        " A new candidate has been put forward for autoeditor status: "
      • 2012-10-15 28914, 2012

      • derwin blushes
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      • derwin
        you like my.. data.. you.. really like it!
      • 2012-10-15 28932, 2012

      • CallerNo6 didn't mean to put CatCat on the spot.
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      • CatCat
        it's ok caller,
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      • CatCat
        I actually feel all cool for being asked like I was a person of knowledge or authority in anything.
      • 2012-10-15 28930, 2012

      • CatCat
        but then I just mess it up :(
      • 2012-10-15 28943, 2012

      • CatCat
        derwin: :)
      • 2012-10-15 28921, 2012

      • CatCat
        now meetign has started in #mb-dev
      • 2012-10-15 28918, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        CatCat brought up scat. I think it's an interesting question. Interesting question are better than knowledge.
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      • CallerNo6
        (at least I hope so)
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      • CatCat
        .. yea sure lets go with that :D
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      • Freso
        _5moufl: Well, not much. The post processing however... :(
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      • Freso
        CatCat: ;)
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      • CatCat
        Freso: thisis the problem with a "country field"
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      • Freso
        CatCat: Looks like she's done most of her music stuff in Denmark, and she's currently signed or otherwise associated with some Copenhagen thing.
      • 2012-10-15 28923, 2012

      • Freso
        CatCat: Yep.
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      • CatCat
        it shoudl be more "time liejn of artist"
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      • CatCat
        line*
      • 2012-10-15 28941, 2012

      • Freso
        CatCat: Or it should allow for more than one.
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      • Freso
        Or should be specific to e.g. nationality or country of birth instead of vague "associated with"
      • 2012-10-15 28908, 2012

      • CatCat
        yes
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      • CatCat
        YES
      • 2012-10-15 28924, 2012

      • CatCat
        both
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      • CatCat
        also groups should have several begin/end date brackets
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      • CatCat
        for wne they are on hiatus and get back together
      • 2012-10-15 28959, 2012

      • Freso
        Well, nationality would require enabling more than one, as it isn't uncommon to have dual citizenship. :)
      • 2012-10-15 28904, 2012

      • CatCat
        like idunno, deep purple
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      • CatCat
        Freso: yes
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, multiple countries would be really good
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      • ianmcorvidae
        or just real location support, but that is of course a lot more work
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      • CatCat
        what I am thinkign is that "multiple lcountires" == "multiple date ranges" for bands i nways of codign and thinking in databases
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      • Freso
        ianmcorvidae: Multiple fields would also be good. Or perhaps a country field associated with birth and death dates in addition to the general one.
      • 2012-10-15 28957, 2012

      • _5moufl
        that's what I was implying Freso :p
      • 2012-10-15 28903, 2012

      • Freso
        But then, I guess that's part of the places thing.
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      • Freso
        _5moufl: :(
      • 2012-10-15 28926, 2012

      • Freso
        _5moufl: I'm really tempted to just keep uploading the "raw" scans like I have now.
      • 2012-10-15 28943, 2012

      • Freso
        _5moufl: Anyone who cares enough can then freely download them and make them prettier.
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      • _5moufl
        it's not that hard to process, just takes a bit of time
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      • Freso
        Though of course they'd be working with the JPEGs and not the original PNGs... hm.
      • 2012-10-15 28911, 2012

      • _5moufl
        not a good idea
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      • CatCat has some scans
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      • _5moufl
        I have a routine for this but I already have some stuff that I have to process
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      • CatCat
        of vinyl
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      • Freso
        _5moufl: Yeah. Scanning these images is already taking enough time. I've never been much for messing with graphics, so unless there's a command (or chain of piped commands) I can run to do things, I'm not sure I want to bother.
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      • CatCat
        i posed her for osmeone to fix those but it didn't happen :/
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      • CatCat
        OT: atleast Ima happy with my new haircut!
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      • Freso
        Heh.
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      • _5moufl
        straightening + cropping can't be done automatically
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      • Freso
        I'm getting my hair fixed on Friday.
      • 2012-10-15 28945, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        If we had multiple begin/end dates, maybe Mr. Bungle would get back together!
      • 2012-10-15 28947, 2012

      • CatCat
        psh
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      • CatCat has done his own hair
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      • Freso
        _5moufl: I'm doing the cropping on the scan directly, no need to crop more once the scan has been saved.
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      • CatCat is gettins *somewhat* confused about "cropping" wtr hair or scans :P
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      • _5moufl
        hmm, cropping directly from the scanning software may not be the best idea
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      • _5moufl
        it's not very precise
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      • _5moufl
        and since it's probably needs to be straightened a bit first
      • 2012-10-15 28959, 2012

      • kepstin loves gimp's "backwards/corrective" rotation mode.
      • 2012-10-15 28913, 2012

      • _5moufl
        PS has something similar
      • 2012-10-15 28917, 2012

      • nano-
        Is it possible to access persons via the API?
      • 2012-10-15 28919, 2012

      • kepstin
        gives you a grid that you line up with the edges of the page, then you're done :)
      • 2012-10-15 28935, 2012

      • kepstin
        nano-: what is a "person"?
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      • nano-
        Oh ehm..
      • 2012-10-15 28950, 2012

      • nano- fail
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      • _5moufl
        a good graphics editor must have that
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      • kepstin
        we allow accessing artists via the api, which may be people or groups.
      • 2012-10-15 28959, 2012

      • nano-
        kepstin: Obviously an artist :)
      • 2012-10-15 28916, 2012

      • nano-
        At least if that person is found on musicbrainz that is :)
      • 2012-10-15 28918, 2012

      • CatCat
        not all artists are people
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      • CatCat
        soem are robots
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      • CatCat
        or cartoons
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      • CatCat
        i know of a cat
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      • nano-
        yeah.. but the other way around holds true. that persons are artists.
      • 2012-10-15 28944, 2012

      • CatCat
        tho cats can be considered people maybe
      • 2012-10-15 28948, 2012

      • kepstin
        admittedly, there are thoughts of adding a new 'person' level to the musicbrainz schema to link artists to the real live people that are the artist.
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      • nano-
        I'm not sure cats are to be considered people, demigods perhaps.
      • 2012-10-15 28904, 2012

      • CatCat
        :D
      • 2012-10-15 28907, 2012

      • kepstin
        to solve our current weird way of doing performance names
      • 2012-10-15 28919, 2012

      • CatCat hates that
      • 2012-10-15 28927, 2012

      • CallerNo6 puts on Patton's "Adult Themes for Voices" and is content, linguistically and otherwise.
      • 2012-10-15 28938, 2012

      • CatCat
        I really, really want only one artist id per "artist person thingy"
      • 2012-10-15 28949, 2012

      • nano-
        mb <3
      • 2012-10-15 28905, 2012

      • CatCat
        none of thos "is called another tign here so it's an artis name or a character or"
      • 2012-10-15 28919, 2012

      • CatCat
        *some* exeption
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      • CatCat
        but really I don't know where
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      • CatCat
        somethingl iek gorilaz or metacolyps maybe
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      • CatCat
        oh dear spelling is going down the drain also
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      • CatCat
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      • Freso
        _5moufl: What's the use of a good graphics editor having that, if the user doesn't know how to use it? :p
      • 2012-10-15 28912, 2012

      • _5moufl
        it foolproof
      • 2012-10-15 28917, 2012

      • _5moufl
        +is
      • 2012-10-15 28936, 2012

      • Freso
        Meh.
      • 2012-10-15 28910, 2012

      • Freso wants to scan -> upload, not scan -> edit, edit, edit -> upload -.-
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      • _5moufl
        life is complicated, i know. :x
      • 2012-10-15 28919, 2012

      • _5moufl
        You can scann everything and wait for .tiff or .png support at least
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      • warp
        Freso: I usually do scan -> crop -> upload. for common sizes the crop step is somewhat scripted.
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      • reosarevok
        CatCat: just fixed that artist up a bit :)
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      • CatCat
        reosarevok: ?
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      • reosarevok
        The one you linked
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      • reosarevok
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      • CatCat
        ahh
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      • CatCat
        thnx
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      • Freso
        warp: No straightening?
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      • Freso
        _5moufl: But, so, when scanning I should leave a little a "white space" around the edges when saving?
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      • Freso
        CallerNo6: We should think about a name for the new site.
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      • reosarevok
        What about musicbrainz.org :p
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      • _5moufl
        yes, I don't think you can do a perfect cropping before scanning
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: if you want to make a test site, though, feel free to build me the page for Baltic artists I want :p
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: Where will the editing site then be?
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      • _5moufl
        straightening might not be necessary but on a lot of scanners i don't think you can realy pute the cover straightened right away
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Dunno, I'd kinda like it to be just like you could switch between them
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      • reosarevok
        But yeah, for now it might make sense to build it somewhere else :p
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      • _5moufl
        and if you use the edge of the scanning area, edges of stuff don't get scanned
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      • _5moufl
        shitty scanners
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      • _5moufl
        like mine I guess
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      • warp
        Freso: no, just don't put it rotated on the scanner.
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      • warp
        Freso: I'm not uploading perfect scans the way I do it. But I just don't have time for that. I think it's better that I get my entire collection scanned and on the archive before having to get rid of it.
      • 2012-10-15 28938, 2012

      • warp
        Freso: compared to only getting a small percentage of it done ever.
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      • CallerNo6
        Freso, you mean a new domain? mbdb.org?
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      • derwin
        mb.orĞ
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      • CallerNo6
        if only it could be mb.borg
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      • Freso
        warp: Yeah. That's what I'm feeling like too.
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      • Freso
        CallerNo6: Well, a new domain should be derived from the name. :)
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      • Freso
        dB Db
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      • Freso
        da Brainz Database
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      • Freso
        :D
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      • reosarevok
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      • Freso
        VisualMB
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      • reosarevok
        Unless it navigates MB data in 3D environments, no
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      • reosarevok
        And if it does it, even more no - that can't be a good idea
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      • reosarevok
        :p