#musicbrainz

You can add the release without track times, then add the discid with picard to set the track times. Or maybe somebody else will jump in with a better system.

There

's no better system AFAIK

If this is a multi-disc release

Well, adding each disc separately and merging allows to add them with track times from the get go, but it's an even dirtier hack

Keep in mind, track titles usually need some manual tweaking anyway to get them style-compliant. Sometimes there's no quick way.

"usually"? well, at least "often".

CallerNo6: to add the discid with Picard do I need to wait for the new release data entry to be approved/indexed at MB? I can't seeme to get around the problem thta Picard doe snot appear to read these audio CD's due to it not finding a match at MB.

Yes I understand the tweaking requiurements - same with a few titles that have multiple artists requiring artist credit tweaking.

THe GUI at MB is good for that. Tedious but good.

You don't need to wait for the edit to be approved, no.

OK well I will give that a shot. Many thanks. Incidentally in the interrim I found some of these releases a FreeDB and so uing that import method has solved the list merge problem I had for at least one of these box sets.

I can't remember what happens if the newly-entered release isn't indexed yet.

it won't appear in searches except direct searches

ianmcorvidae: for the purposes of "submit discid" from picard I mean. About to try it.

ah, that shouldn't matter -- you always need to attach things via the site

So, "scan disc" in Picard sends you to a manual search page on MB, but no "direct search" option is given.

Oh, wait, I'm being dumb.

(again)

I think direct searh is the only thing on MB for attaching CDTOCs

search*

najevi: use a greasemonkey script.

najevi: easiest is probably the discogs importer, because your stuff will probably be in discogs.

and a list of track duratons with a list f track titles

"man paste

Well my fiorst edit was just completed. This release was found in FreeDB so that import went very smoothly. Just the tedious tweeking of artist credits and one or two typos to correct. Since I am a limited user the MB database may not show it for a while though.

Picard CD Lookup stil ldoes not read the disc. So maybe I try again in a few days to see if the edit has been approved.

thank you to derwin and CallerNo6

Oh very cool. Now i understand what you meant by adding the disc ID. Went off without a hitch, following a manual search.

ah, I was just about to reply. Good. Glad that worked out.

Used Picard for this and now Picard does succesfully do a CD Lookup

An SoundJuicer now pulls in the CD TOC as desired

I feel empowered!

So tell me this. There is MB and there is FreeDB and I don;t yet know about discoggs, however, is the mutual importing of data from say FreeDb to MB solely reliant on individual users "getting around to it" so to speak?

Yes. There /was/ a bot years ago that imported freedb releases into MB, but the quality was too low. It was decided that human eyeballs were needed. Generally, discogs data is quite good, but there's no formal sharing relationship.

Oh dear. Even though I was careful to enter separate a release for each CD in the set the CDTOC pulled in by SoundJuicer is for all 5 CDs from the set.

OK that's fair enough.

link to the release you're working on? i'm about to run out, but I'll take a look later tonight.

So it looks like there are 101 tracks instead of just 20 tracks on CD 1

Sure> http://musicbrainz.org/release/c4df31e9-7b60-4c...

CallerNo6: I'd like to be involved with a "browsing site" too. Hit me up if you actually take it somewhere.

najevi: what version of sound juicer?

hah

i just foind out that "ISRC ran out of "US" codes"

so "QM" is the new "US" :P

clearly we need ISRCv6 :)

let's make recording mbids ISRCv6

or we could just call them ISRCv2, since we don't have the Internet Stream Protocol or the first four revisions of the internet protocol to muck with things :P

Or ISRC-NG

in todays world of version inflation a version 2 sounds like prototype stage and not production ready. ;)

ISRC Release 203 it is.

503 would theme with MB better ^^

It's not production ready until at least 23.

If someone wrote a tale and someone added some musique to it to make a play for children, who should be the artist for a) the release b) tracks

I could use the classical rule and do something like Author; Other, Artists, Seperated, Comma

RA>GE

http://musicbrainz.org/artist/89ad4ac3-39f7-470... can't we just stop people

bud piece foisemaster tounge

those were NOT ther last night

some joker made thme todat while i was sleeping

ok so. not rage exactly

i can't fix this until it's been indexed in the search

CatCat: Hence my note last night about have several VA AC edits not hurting, as ACs can easily be added between one edit going through and the next...

yea. you're brill

_5moufl: Whoever's credited, I'd say.

_5moufl: Most likely the author though, like with audiobooks.

they're all credit somewhere

CatCat: Oh?

yes

CatCat: That's silly.

I'll do like I suggested for the release, and author only for the tracks

i know, and it's irritating. it's like "we ll your work is not wrong, but pointles

_5moufl: Well, everyone's also credited on a CD release somewhere (or should be....).

and maybe ARs if I'm not too lazy

CatCat: Yeah. Just ignore silly people.

i'm going to move these new artists to holding artist. so i can see wtf is going on, can i count on atleast 3 votes so i can get it fixed soon?

cheers freso

sure

please vote for these ugly things http://musicbrainz.org/user/CatCat/edits/open

they're all on the first page so no need ot go more pages

http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304866 http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304864 http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304862 http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304860 http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304852 http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304815 http://musicbrainz.org/edit/19304780

that's all of these, please vote on them so i can fix and find out and maybe explain to theperson addign that it's not how yo udo it

(i promis ot be gentel if it's a newbie)

(i promise ot be gentle if it's a newbie)

not genteel

but hey, if it 's a jewish person i cant be anything else :P

nut i'll still be gentle

s/n/b/

One person go and vote on CatCat's top open edits?

hm, very interesting

all seems to be linked to mbids

Yeah, it is, IIRC they contacted us a while ago to tell us

heh, yeah

There was a post to style, but it wasn

't an RFC or anything so it seems it got completely ignored

I hope some stupid lawyers won't shut they down

*them

warp: you might want to actually send an RFC for it if you want us to link to them somehow