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      • CallerNo6
        You can add the release without track times, then add the discid with picard to set the track times. Or maybe somebody else will jump in with a better system.
      • reosarevok
        There
      • 's no better system AFAIK
      • If this is a multi-disc release
      • Well, adding each disc separately and merging allows to add them with track times from the get go, but it's an even dirtier hack
      • CallerNo6
        Keep in mind, track titles usually need some manual tweaking anyway to get them style-compliant. Sometimes there's no quick way.
      • "usually"? well, at least "often".
      • najevi
        CallerNo6: to add the discid with Picard do I need to wait for the new release data entry to be approved/indexed at MB? I can't seeme to get around the problem thta Picard doe snot appear to read these audio CD's due to it not finding a match at MB.
      • Yes I understand the tweaking requiurements - same with a few titles that have multiple artists requiring artist credit tweaking.
      • THe GUI at MB is good for that. Tedious but good.
      • CallerNo6
        You don't need to wait for the edit to be approved, no.
      • najevi
        OK well I will give that a shot. Many thanks. Incidentally in the interrim I found some of these releases a FreeDB and so uing that import method has solved the list merge problem I had for at least one of these box sets.
      • CallerNo6
        I can't remember what happens if the newly-entered release isn't indexed yet.
      • ianmcorvidae
        it won't appear in searches except direct searches
      • CallerNo6
        ianmcorvidae: for the purposes of "submit discid" from picard I mean. About to try it.
      • ianmcorvidae
        ah, that shouldn't matter -- you always need to attach things via the site
      • CallerNo6
        So, "scan disc" in Picard sends you to a manual search page on MB, but no "direct search" option is given.
      • Oh, wait, I'm being dumb.
      • (again)
      • ianmcorvidae
        I think direct searh is the only thing on MB for attaching CDTOCs
      • search*
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      • derwin
        najevi: use a greasemonkey script.
      • najevi: easiest is probably the discogs importer, because your stuff will probably be in discogs.
      • and a list of track duratons with a list f track titles
      • "man paste
      • najevi
        Well my fiorst edit was just completed. This release was found in FreeDB so that import went very smoothly. Just the tedious tweeking of artist credits and one or two typos to correct. Since I am a limited user the MB database may not show it for a while though.
      • Picard CD Lookup stil ldoes not read the disc. So maybe I try again in a few days to see if the edit has been approved.
      • thank you to derwin and CallerNo6
      • Oh very cool. Now i understand what you meant by adding the disc ID. Went off without a hitch, following a manual search.
      • CallerNo6
        ah, I was just about to reply. Good. Glad that worked out.
      • najevi
        Used Picard for this and now Picard does succesfully do a CD Lookup
      • An SoundJuicer now pulls in the CD TOC as desired
      • I feel empowered!
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      • So tell me this. There is MB and there is FreeDB and I don;t yet know about discoggs, however, is the mutual importing of data from say FreeDb to MB solely reliant on individual users "getting around to it" so to speak?
      • CallerNo6
        Yes. There /was/ a bot years ago that imported freedb releases into MB, but the quality was too low. It was decided that human eyeballs were needed. Generally, discogs data is quite good, but there's no formal sharing relationship.
      • najevi
        Oh dear. Even though I was careful to enter separate a release for each CD in the set the CDTOC pulled in by SoundJuicer is for all 5 CDs from the set.
      • OK that's fair enough.
      • CallerNo6
        link to the release you're working on? i'm about to run out, but I'll take a look later tonight.
      • najevi
        So it looks like there are 101 tracks instead of just 20 tracks on CD 1
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      • Freso
        CallerNo6: I'd like to be involved with a "browsing site" too. Hit me up if you actually take it somewhere.
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      • CallerNo6
        najevi: what version of sound juicer?
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      • v6lur
        hah
      • i just foind out that "ISRC ran out of "US" codes"
      • so "QM" is the new "US" :P
      • luks
        clearly we need ISRCv6 :)
      • warp
        let's make recording mbids ISRCv6
      • ianmcorvidae
        or we could just call them ISRCv2, since we don't have the Internet Stream Protocol or the first four revisions of the internet protocol to muck with things :P
      • Freso
        Or ISRC-NG
      • warp
        in todays world of version inflation a version 2 sounds like prototype stage and not production ready. ;)
      • RootWyrm_
        ISRC Release 203 it is.
      • v6lur
        503 would theme with MB better ^^
      • Leftmost
        It's not production ready until at least 23.
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      • _5moufl
        If someone wrote a tale and someone added some musique to it to make a play for children, who should be the artist for a) the release b) tracks
      • I could use the classical rule and do something like Author; Other, Artists, Seperated, Comma
      • CatCat
        RA>GE
      • bud piece foisemaster tounge
      • those were NOT ther last night
      • some joker made thme todat while i was sleeping
      • ok so. not rage exactly
      • i can't fix this until it's been indexed in the search
      • Freso
        CatCat: Hence my note last night about have several VA AC edits not hurting, as ACs can easily be added between one edit going through and the next...
      • CatCat
        yea. you're brill
      • Freso
        _5moufl: Whoever's credited, I'd say.
      • CatCat gets peopel complainign that i am doing a VA AC edits when *they* are already doing this (by editing the release it's on)
      • _5moufl: Most likely the author though, like with audiobooks.
      • _5moufl
        they're all credit somewhere
      • Freso
        CatCat: Oh?
      • CatCat
        yes
      • Freso
        CatCat: That's silly.
      • _5moufl
        I'll do like I suggested for the release, and author only for the tracks
      • CatCat
        i know, and it's irritating. it's like "we ll your work is not wrong, but pointles
      • Freso
        _5moufl: Well, everyone's also credited on a CD release somewhere (or should be....).
      • _5moufl
        and maybe ARs if I'm not too lazy
      • Freso
        CatCat: Yeah. Just ignore silly people.
      • CatCat
        i'm going to move these new artists to holding artist. so i can see wtf is going on, can i count on atleast 3 votes so i can get it fixed soon?
      • cheers freso
      • _5moufl
        sure
      • CatCat
        please vote for these ugly things http://musicbrainz.org/user/CatCat/edits/open
      • they're all on the first page so no need ot go more pages
      • that's all of these, please vote on them so i can fix and find out and maybe explain to theperson addign that it's not how yo udo it
      • (i promis ot be gentel if it's a newbie)
      • (i promise ot be gentle if it's a newbie)
      • not genteel
      • but hey, if it 's a jewish person i cant be anything else :P
      • nut i'll still be gentle
      • s/n/b/
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      • Freso
        One person go and vote on CatCat's top open edits?
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      • luks
        hm, very interesting
      • all seems to be linked to mbids
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, it is, IIRC they contacted us a while ago to tell us
      • reosarevok checks
      • heh, yeah
      • There was a post to style, but it wasn
      • 't an RFC or anything so it seems it got completely ignored
      • luks
        I hope some stupid lawyers won't shut they down
      • *them
      • reosarevok
        warp: you might want to actually send an RFC for it if you want us to link to them somehow
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