ok, it's nicer than the old release creation workflow
2012-02-01 03238, 2012
nikki
flamingspinach: I suppose it depends how you define independent existence. they do have their own database table and are used outside of tracklists (release artist, release group artist, recording artist...)
2012-02-01 03236, 2012
flamingspinach
nikki: so if I set two tracks to the same artist credit, and then I edit one, does the other one change too because they're "the same artist credit object"?
2012-02-01 03247, 2012
reosarevok
Ideally, yes
2012-02-01 03251, 2012
flamingspinach
or do I, by changing the tracklist, replace the artist credit object with a different artist credit object?
2012-02-01 03251, 2012
reosarevok
Right now... sometimes
2012-02-01 03254, 2012
flamingspinach
reosarevok: !?
2012-02-01 03257, 2012
flamingspinach
that sounds like a terrible idea to me
2012-02-01 03201, 2012
reosarevok
Oh, wait
2012-02-01 03205, 2012
reosarevok
From a tracklist?
2012-02-01 03206, 2012
reosarevok
No
2012-02-01 03207, 2012
reosarevok
:)
2012-02-01 03218, 2012
reosarevok
I thought you meant if you actually edit the *artist credit*
2012-02-01 03220, 2012
flamingspinach
where else could you change it from?
2012-02-01 03225, 2012
reosarevok
From the Aliases tab
2012-02-01 03228, 2012
flamingspinach
that's what I'm saying, I don't see an "artist credit page" anywhere
2012-02-01 03242, 2012
flamingspinach
huh, artist credits appear as aliases?
2012-02-01 03249, 2012
nikki
flamingspinach: no
2012-02-01 03250, 2012
reosarevok
An option to filter by them is in the works, I think luks was working on it
2012-02-01 03251, 2012
flamingspinach
if so, that explains how this works, I guess
2012-02-01 03255, 2012
reosarevok
No, they are in the same tab :)
2012-02-01 03258, 2012
flamingspinach
oh.
2012-02-01 03258, 2012
reosarevok
Go look!
2012-02-01 03202, 2012
flamingspinach
hehe
2012-02-01 03214, 2012
nikki
if you want to update an artist credit for everything using the same one, you have to go to the artist's aliases tab and do it there
2012-02-01 03232, 2012
flamingspinach
aha!!
2012-02-01 03233, 2012
flamingspinach
I see :D
2012-02-01 03234, 2012
nikki
editing an individual one only edits that individual one (rows in the table are added/removed as necessary)
2012-02-01 03236, 2012
flamingspinach
I didn't notice that before
2012-02-01 03244, 2012
flamingspinach
great, that's the behavior I would expect :)
2012-02-01 03257, 2012
flamingspinach
so I guess the guy who made the edit I linked must have edited the artist credit from the artist's aliases page
2012-02-01 03220, 2012
flamingspinach
but I guess I should vote against it since her romanized name appears on the official tracklist of the release, which is the whole point of having artist credits :)
2012-02-01 03243, 2012
reosarevok
flamingspinach: the artist credits can be changed while changing the actual artist name too
2012-02-01 03251, 2012
reosarevok
So it might also be because of that
2012-02-01 03257, 2012
reosarevok is not too happy with the way that's done now
2012-02-01 03228, 2012
flamingspinach
bbl
2012-02-01 03228, 2012
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reosarevok
VxJasonxV, added a few links to your Parsers page
2012-02-01 03214, 2012
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2012-02-01 03241, 2012
reosarevok
hrglgrmpf, are you also planning to try and manually relate the 100-ish NULL reviews?
2012-02-01 03258, 2012
reosarevok
In case you do, please compile a list for me to send to the BBC if you can :)
so they've reviewed stuff that they don't have an MBID for
2012-02-01 03231, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah
2012-02-01 03237, 2012
ocharles
I thought you meant there were reviews that pointed to an MBID that we don't have
2012-02-01 03241, 2012
ocharles
gotcha
2012-02-01 03246, 2012
reosarevok
enjayhch said finding the MBIDs for it is in their to-do list
2012-02-01 03249, 2012
reosarevok
But pretty low in it
2012-02-01 03259, 2012
reosarevok
So if hrglgrmpf plans to do it, giving the info to them would be sweet
2012-02-01 03257, 2012
ocharles
yea, they just need to be able to query /ws/2/url and it's practically a solved problem for them :)
2012-02-01 03206, 2012
ocharles
(and more motivation for us to add /ws/2/url)
2012-02-01 03258, 2012
reosarevok
Not completely, because we store them at RG level
2012-02-01 03214, 2012
reosarevok
But it's definitely a good help
2012-02-01 03222, 2012
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2012-02-01 03226, 2012
hrglgrmpf
reosarevok: sorry, my notification irssi-script seems to be non-functional :-)
2012-02-01 03206, 2012
hrglgrmpf
well, it would be good if the BBC had a better way for us to give feedback for incorrect/missing stuff
2012-02-01 03215, 2012
hrglgrmpf
a more "direct" way
2012-02-01 03257, 2012
reosarevok
A more mechanical way you mean?
2012-02-01 03202, 2012
reosarevok
As opposed to mailing and saying?
2012-02-01 03227, 2012
hrglgrmpf
if such a channel would exist, and if giving feedback over it would result in some timely change, I think I might manually contribute some review-MBID mapping (but not for all...)
2012-02-01 03236, 2012
hrglgrmpf
no, mailing and saying would be perfectly fine
2012-02-01 03206, 2012
hrglgrmpf
I just need an address where I don't have to write 2 paragraphs of stuff so that I get directed to the right person
2012-02-01 03210, 2012
reosarevok
I was told by enjayhch that for these reviews, if we give him the info he'll see to them being linked
2012-02-01 03225, 2012
reosarevok creates a wiki page for this
2012-02-01 03226, 2012
hrglgrmpf
so how do I reach him :-)?
2012-02-01 03232, 2012
hrglgrmpf
that would be perfect!
2012-02-01 03252, 2012
hrglgrmpf
in this case, he can look at the wiki page in case he feels like correcting the reviews
2012-02-01 03205, 2012
hrglgrmpf
I already found a wrong linked review anyway...
2012-02-01 03222, 2012
hrglgrmpf
and maybe the BBC wants to exclude its own reviews from the review external link section :-)
2012-02-01 03208, 2012
reosarevok
hrglgrmpf, can you quickly extract all the NULL for me while I write an intro?
2012-02-01 03201, 2012
hrglgrmpf
of course
2012-02-01 03224, 2012
hrglgrmpf
what format?
2012-02-01 03240, 2012
hrglgrmpf
"* URL" ?
2012-02-01 03217, 2012
reosarevok
Probably, either that or a three-column mediawiki table
2012-02-01 03239, 2012
reosarevok
(leaving the other two columns empty)
2012-02-01 03202, 2012
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2012-02-01 03205, 2012
hrglgrmpf
you can decide, I have the script ready...
2012-02-01 03210, 2012
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2012-02-01 03235, 2012
hrglgrmpf
you can also make a section "Wrong linked reviews"
2012-02-01 03241, 2012
reosarevok
Planning to
2012-02-01 03249, 2012
reosarevok
Use mediawiki table syntax
2012-02-01 03258, 2012
reosarevok
If it confuses people we can flat it out to text later
2012-02-01 03216, 2012
hrglgrmpf
what syntax is that (like, what column will be the URL)?
2012-02-01 03217, 2012
reosarevok
Make the headers "Review", "Release Group", "Release" :)
