#musicbrainz

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      • reosarevok
        drsaunde: should we ask?
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      • CallerNo6
        ... or is this a case of, "if you can remember that night, you probably weren't there"?
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      • Munger
        I already have the MB database running on my linux box and it updates via a cron job. I'm now installing a slave MB server. Should I remove the cron job? i.e. does the server handle replication itself?
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      • drsaunde
        ...more like i spent a year there one night. Luckyily the hospital was kind enough to remove the bb pellets from my posterior
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      • nikki
        Munger: updates are still done via cron
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      • Munger
        OK. Thanks
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      • Munger
        Server is running but the site formatting is garbage.
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      • nikki
        if you mean there's no css, you need to edit DBDefs.pm and set DEVELOPMENT_SERVER to 0
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      • nikki
        err, to 1
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      • kepstin
        right, I need to make a userscript to embed videos on recording pages if the recording has a video link :)
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      • nikki
        heh, that's one I won't be using :P
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      • kepstin
        I mean, it's not like embedding videos is hard... http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/test…
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      • kepstin
        (dailymotion has a /lot/ of official music videos, oddly enough)
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      • kepstin
        nicely, all of the sites that I've checked make it pretty easy to build the embed code if you know the video url.
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      • Munger
        nikki: DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: relation "country" does not exist --- is this because I'm trying to connect to a database that I previously setup using these instructions? https://github.com/lalinsky/mbslave
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      • nikki
        hmm, maybe...
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      • nikki
        I'd ping luks but I imagine he's asleep
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      • Munger
        I guess I can just trash the databse and re-import it using the server instructions
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      • reosarevok
        kepstin: sounds like a plan
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      • reosarevok
        I'd much rather show it in MB, but for now it will certainly do
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      • Snartal
        Anybody here have any experience with the new echoprints?
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      • hawke_
        Snartal: I don't think echoprints are really used much with Musicbrainz
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      • Snartal
        yea, in my digging around seems acousticid is in wider use
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      • Snartal
        Curious why though there is a echoprint test server out there
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      • Snartal
        Just trying to wrap my head around the whole thing
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      • ianmcorvidae
        both were being tried for a period; I think acoustid largely "won" (as much as there was a winner), but some of the echoprint stuff is around from when they were being tested
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      • kepstin
        last I recall, the echoprint server didn't support submission of new fingerprints from user scans - dunno if they've fixed that now.
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      • nikki
        Snartal: btw, "acoustid", not "acousticid" ;)
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      • kepstin
        huh. a lot more artists on musicbrainz are indexed on google than the robots.txt would suggest...
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      • kepstin
        http://www.google.ca/search?q=site:musicbrainz.or… - none of the artist pages returned with this query are allowed by the robots.txt file
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      • kepstin
        which means that the robots.txt file isn't actually doing anything...
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      • kepstin
        similarly, recording and work pages are indexed.
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      • nikki
        there were some problems with the robots.txt file, so I wonder if it's from that
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      • kepstin filed a bug where it would report a 404 error some of the time
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      • kepstin
        so, it could be...
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      • kepstin
        if google got a 404 it would assume there's no robots.txt file and everything is fair game.
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      • kepstin
        as it is now, it looks like they have a good portion of the site index and it's probably gonna stay there for a while
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      • nikki
        maybe we should just give in and let it index the whole site :P
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      • kepstin
        imo, we should :)
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      • nikki
        if it causes a problem, we can just block it again in robots.txt
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      • kepstin
        hmm. their index didn't get LMFAO, but did get Nicki Minaj.
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      • kepstin is just trying random popular artists
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      • nikki
        (although I imagine for bigger artists the results won't appear anywhere on the first page, for the smaller artists we'll only be stealing hello.dj's visitors :P)
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      • kepstin
        they do of course also index pages that are blocked in robots.txt - they just don't show any content from them.
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      • kepstin
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      • kepstin
        (since they'll know about the page if anyone else on the internet has linked to it)
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      • kepstin now has a userscript that pops up an alert message on any recording page with a streaming video link
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      • kepstin
        and now I go to bed, the script will remind me to finish it later ;)
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        Any rubyists around?
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      • kuenx
        Hello. I am writing a tagging application in node.js. Since a NGS, a release or recording can have multiple artist credits. How would you add a MUSICBRAINZ_ARTISTID vorbis comment for a track that has 2 credited artists? How does Picard do it? Thanks
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      • Munger
        I *think* it must use 'TIPL' or 'TMCL' tags, which seam to be unrepresentable in any of my command line tag readers
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      • Munger
        or....
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      • Munger
        I just found some where the TXXX - MusicBrainz Artist ID tag data contains some thing like fad7b220-d668-4e97-9397-75af93307aa5 / c58798a9-1cdf-4285-8cdf-51d13bfa1e9d / 782b3ef7-858c-4e46-9d2b-ee001252f2d8
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      • kuenx
        Munger: Oh, so it stores multiple IDs in the same tag?
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      • Munger
        That's what I found. It camas a a surprise to me
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      • Munger
        *came as
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      • kuenx
        I couldn't find any documentation about how Picards handles those kind of things? I use Picrd's behavious as a reference for my ofn tagging app
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      • kuenx
        Munger: Thanks for the hint
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      • Munger
        kuenx, Do you want a flle that shows this?
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      • kuenx
        Munger: Oh that would be very great
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      • kuenx
        If you're interested, I'm developing a tagging / conversion application in node.js called automusic https://github.com/maxkueng/automusic
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      • kuenx
        It's still at a very early stage and mainly a concept experiment
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      • Munger
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      • kuenx
        Munger: Thanks!
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      • Munger
        I'll have a look at your project. I'm kinda hacking aroud with my own MB slave server with a mind to doing something similar
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      • kuenx
        Munger: For automusic, I also wrote a metaflac wrapper and a musicbrainz API client https://github.com/maxkueng/node-metaflac https://github.com/maxkueng/node-musicbrainz
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      • kuenx
        Munger: Oh, nice track BTW :)
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      • Munger
        I didn't think it would be polite (or fast) to bombard the main server with 100K + songs
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      • kuenx
        node-musicbrainz limits API calls to 1 request per second and allows caching. So it's not that fast but polite :)
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      • Munger
        I'm actually one of those idiots who ripped all his music to flac then promptly converted the whole lot to mp3 so it would play anywhere
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      • kuenx
        Munger: same here. I ripped my 300+ CDs to flac. Created OGG for my portable player and MP3 for at the office
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      • Munger
        I do a bit of DJ work. My collection is now over 500G in mp3 format. Somethinghad to give so I opted for lower quality over space. If a rip is really bad, I just do it again from the CD
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      • Munger
        But to be honest, over a PA with 50+ drunk revellers I have never had anyone complain about audio qualiy :-)
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      • kuenx
        Yeah, some of my friends DJ too and they just mix MP3s
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      • kuenx
        But still, FLAC is a good source for any kind of target format
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      • kuenx
        I got to go. Thanks for the input
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      • CatCat
        really don't think that's good
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      • CatCat
        i agree with nikki
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      • Munger
        Tried to replicate the DB --- "Can't locate aliased.pm in @INC ...." Is there some other dependency I'm missing?
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      • Munger
        I can't find libaliased-perl on Gentoo
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      • Munger
        I do have ./musicbrainz-server/local/lib/perl5/aliased.pm
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      • Munger
        luks, ping
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      • luks
        Munger: pong, if it's still relevant :)
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