0:00 AM
hawke_
Work types are BS because they’re derived from classical stuff. :-p
2012-02-08 03945, 2012
0:02 AM
hawke_
“This one is a work type because it’s classical…that type is just a genre because it’s pop music”
2012-02-08 03947, 2012
0:02 AM
hawke_
derp!
2012-02-08 03938, 2012
0:07 AM
reosarevok
:p
2012-02-08 03953, 2012
0:11 AM
hawke_
Sorry, but “waltz” or “polka” are totally not genres.
2012-02-08 03918, 2012
0:12 AM
hawke_
And “aria” and “cantata” are both songs
2012-02-08 03940, 2012
0:12 AM
reosarevok
hawke_: the original list is compiled from western classical
2012-02-08 03948, 2012
0:12 AM
reosarevok
Nothing blocks people from RFCing for other stuff
2012-02-08 03929, 2012
0:13 AM
reosarevok
(and while "Metal Ballad" might be a tough sale, "Waltz" or "Polka" should be simpler)
2012-02-08 03938, 2012
0:14 AM
hawke_
2012-02-08 03939, 2012
0:15 AM
reosarevok would suggest getting opinions from people who might actually edit one :p
2012-02-08 03958, 2012
0:15 AM
reosarevok
Which is most likely not me nor navap
2012-02-08 03925, 2012
0:16 AM
hawke_
heh
2012-02-08 03953, 2012
0:19 AM
derwin
polka is not a genre?
2012-02-08 03929, 2012
0:20 AM
hawke_
derwin: No.
2012-02-08 03944, 2012
0:20 AM
derwin
what defines the border of a genre?
2012-02-08 03957, 2012
0:20 AM
hawke_
It’s a type of dance, and a corresponding music structure
2012-02-08 03915, 2012
0:23 AM
hawke_
Though there’s *also* a corresponding genre, I suppose.
2012-02-08 03941, 2012
0:24 AM
hawke_
fox-trot, jig, march are probably all clearer examples
2012-02-08 03905, 2012
0:27 AM
hawke_
reosarevok: I’ll probably RFC them as soon as the new RFC process is done. ;-)
2012-02-08 03924, 2012
0:27 AM
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2012-02-08 03920, 2012
0:34 AM
derwin
hawke_: that was more or less my point. when it was invented it was a type of dance and a corresponding musical structure. immediately afterwards, there was likely an associated genre
2012-02-08 03921, 2012
1:17 AM
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2012-02-08 03911, 2012
2:02 AM
derwin
nikki: I have no "save note" button when clicking "add note" from an edit list, in osx chrome
2012-02-08 03914, 2012
2:03 AM
derwin
or am I missing it somewhere?
2012-02-08 03935, 2012
2:03 AM
derwin
(I just opened the edit in another window and c/p but I can file a ticket if this is in fact a bug..)
2012-02-08 03924, 2012
2:04 AM
derwin
2012-02-08 03955, 2012
2:05 AM
kepstin
that's pretty sweet.
2012-02-08 03922, 2012
2:06 AM
derwin
yeah, I'm saying
2012-02-08 03926, 2012
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2:08 AM
kepstin
welcome back, kepstin-laptop
2012-02-08 03955, 2012
2:08 AM
kepstin-laptop
thanks, it's nice to be here.
2012-02-08 03945, 2012
2:09 AM
VxJasonxV
Oh crap
2012-02-08 03952, 2012
2:09 AM
VxJasonxV
I think I just TOTALLY screwed up recording edits.
2012-02-08 03937, 2012
2:10 AM
kepstin
well, that's too bad. I guess you'll have to go and fix them, then.
2012-02-08 03941, 2012
2:10 AM
VxJasonxV
2012-02-08 03943, 2012
2:10 AM
VxJasonxV
I think that's a yes...
2012-02-08 03945, 2012
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2:28 AM
nikki
derwin: you have to scroll to the bottom of the page and click the submit button there
2012-02-08 03907, 2012
2:29 AM
nikki
2012-02-08 03931, 2012
2:33 AM
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2012-02-08 03953, 2012
2:33 AM
hrglgrmpf
nikki: I have discogs cleanup ready, I’m just waiting for jesus’ proposal to be accepted
2012-02-08 03915, 2012
2:34 AM
hrglgrmpf
because then I don’t have to care about correctly escapong the query string :-)
2012-02-08 03956, 2012
2:36 AM
nikki
I see :)
2012-02-08 03905, 2012
2:37 AM
nikki
and wikipedia?
2012-02-08 03936, 2012
2:37 AM
reosarevok
What's wiki cleanup going to do?
2012-02-08 03941, 2012
2:37 AM
reosarevok
Remove all anchors? :p
2012-02-08 03903, 2012
2:38 AM
nikki
standardise the way some characters are entered
2012-02-08 03920, 2012
2:38 AM
reosarevok
aww
2012-02-08 03929, 2012
2:38 AM
reosarevok
Well, still better than nothing
2012-02-08 03930, 2012
2:38 AM
nikki
most of them get done automatically, but there are some which are ambiguous and can still end up two ways in the db
2012-02-08 03941, 2012
2:38 AM
hrglgrmpf
nikki: wiki is not done yet
2012-02-08 03947, 2012
2:38 AM
reosarevok
hrglgrmpf, make it remove "Wikipedia page" from descriptions while you are at it
2012-02-08 03952, 2012
2:38 AM
reosarevok goes to bed
2012-02-08 03954, 2012
2:38 AM
hrglgrmpf
are we allowing query strings / anchors for wikipedia?
2012-02-08 03903, 2012
2:39 AM
nikki
we don't use query strings at all for wikipedia
2012-02-08 03904, 2012
2:39 AM
reosarevok
People like those :(
2012-02-08 03906, 2012
2:39 AM
reosarevok
(anchors)
2012-02-08 03910, 2012
2:39 AM
hrglgrmpf
reosarevok: will do :_)
2012-02-08 03922, 2012
2:39 AM
hrglgrmpf
and anchors? are they allowed?
2012-02-08 03931, 2012
2:39 AM
nikki
we don't have anything forbidding them
2012-02-08 03937, 2012
2:39 AM
nikki
but some of us hate them
2012-02-08 03942, 2012
2:39 AM
reosarevok
A lot of editors like them though
2012-02-08 03944, 2012
2:39 AM
reosarevok
So...
2012-02-08 03947, 2012
2:39 AM
nikki wonders if hrglgrmpf has a messed up sleeping pattern too
2012-02-08 03958, 2012
2:39 AM
reosarevok
Maybe he's also a robot
2012-02-08 03900, 2012
2:40 AM
hrglgrmpf
nikki: yes, pretty much :-)
2012-02-08 03906, 2012
2:40 AM
nikki
I'm not used to seeing europeans (other than reosarevok :P) online at this time of night
2012-02-08 03914, 2012
2:40 AM
reosarevok
Hey!
2012-02-08 03918, 2012
2:40 AM
nikki
:P
2012-02-08 03926, 2012
2:40 AM
reosarevok looks at v6lur and SultS who tend to be online at 6 AM
2012-02-08 03948, 2012
2:40 AM
nikki
I'm not used to seeing them online then :P
2012-02-08 03953, 2012
2:40 AM
nikki
maybe you talk to them once I've gone to bed
2012-02-08 03905, 2012
2:41 AM
hrglgrmpf
will all change once I end my studying time in a month or two :-(
2012-02-08 03910, 2012
2:41 AM
nikki
aww
2012-02-08 03916, 2012
2:41 AM
hrglgrmpf
:-)
2012-02-08 03912, 2012
2:42 AM
nikki should really be in bed because she's yet again waiting for something to be delivered
2012-02-08 03940, 2012
2:42 AM
hrglgrmpf
ha, I know that
2012-02-08 03943, 2012
2:42 AM
nikki
although it won't come tomorrow, I still have to get up early in a couple of days
2012-02-08 03957, 2012
2:42 AM
hrglgrmpf
today the guy for the gas heating couldn't wake me up :-(
2012-02-08 03911, 2012
2:43 AM
nikki
ah :/
2012-02-08 03911, 2012
2:43 AM
kepstin
2012-02-08 03917, 2012
2:43 AM
kepstin
I want him to be the touhouest artist.
2012-02-08 03932, 2012
2:43 AM
reosarevok disappears instead
2012-02-08 03934, 2012
2:43 AM
nikki
I have that problem. reosarevok can confirm it, since he put my phone on the bed while it was going off and I still continued sleeping :P
2012-02-08 03924, 2012
2:44 AM
kepstin
my alarm did wake me up this morning, but not enough to keep me up :/
2012-02-08 03935, 2012
2:44 AM
nikki
yeah, that too
2012-02-08 03953, 2012
2:44 AM
nikki
I love my phone because it lets me set a whole range of alarms all for the same morning
2012-02-08 03953, 2012
2:44 AM
hrglgrmpf
yes, I have a very firm sleep after being awake for 30+ hours :-)
2012-02-08 03928, 2012
2:45 AM
nikki
so I can be like 9:00, 9:15, 9:30, 10:00 and then eventually it works
2012-02-08 03939, 2012
2:45 AM
hrglgrmpf
2012-02-08 03948, 2012
2:45 AM
nikki
no
2012-02-08 03959, 2012
2:45 AM
kepstin
this is annoying, because I have classes on some days, and if I'm not out the door by 8:30, I miss my bus.
2012-02-08 03910, 2012
2:46 AM
nikki
set more alarms!
2012-02-08 03941, 2012
2:46 AM
kepstin
but then I just get more annoyed on days I don't have classes :)
2012-02-08 03949, 2012
2:46 AM
hrglgrmpf
nikki: is it some perl function? do you know the location?
2012-02-08 03907, 2012
2:47 AM
nikki
uhh
2012-02-08 03940, 2012
2:47 AM
hrglgrmpf
I get it, you did find it out by trial-and-error ;-)?
2012-02-08 03901, 2012
2:48 AM
nikki
>_> <_<
2012-02-08 03931, 2012
2:48 AM
nikki
the ones which are automatically encoded/decoded I figured out by pasting a url into mb and seeing what changed
2012-02-08 03951, 2012
2:48 AM
nikki
the rest were just done by checking what the sites actually use
2012-02-08 03951, 2012
2:49 AM
nikki
although actually I don't think wikipedia use [ and ] at all (would make sense since they use those characters to create links in the first place)
2012-02-08 03926, 2012
2:50 AM
nikki
I could have sworn I saw them though, maybe I was hallucinating by that point :P
2012-02-08 03933, 2012
2:50 AM
hrglgrmpf
hehe
2012-02-08 03915, 2012
2:51 AM
hrglgrmpf
for discogs this gives good results:
2012-02-08 03922, 2012
2:51 AM
hrglgrmpf
encodeURIComponent(decodeURIComponent(m[2].replace(/\+/g, "%20"))).replace(/%20/g, "+")
2012-02-08 03929, 2012
2:51 AM
hrglgrmpf
m[2] being the name of the artist or label
2012-02-08 03936, 2012
2:52 AM
hrglgrmpf
for wiki its more complicated, and needs more testing…
2012-02-08 03907, 2012
2:55 AM
nikki nods
2012-02-08 03937, 2012
2:57 AM
nikki
gah, this new picard stuff will take some getting used to
2012-02-08 03944, 2012
2:57 AM
nikki
I mean, it looks way better
2012-02-08 03954, 2012
2:57 AM
nikki
but it's surprisingly bright where it wasn't before :P
2012-02-08 03931, 2012
2:59 AM
kepstin
huh, something changed in picard? I don't notice any different in the latest git...
2012-02-08 03942, 2012
2:59 AM
nikki
maybe it's still in a branch
2012-02-08 03902, 2012
3:00 AM
nikki
there's some stuff for showing a more diff-like view of the tags
2012-02-08 03912, 2012
3:15 AM
hrglgrmpf
thats bitmaps tagdiff branch
2012-02-08 03916, 2012
3:15 AM
hrglgrmpf
it is genious
2012-02-08 03938, 2012
3:15 AM
hrglgrmpf
especially for developing
2012-02-08 03916, 2012
3:16 AM
hrglgrmpf
but also very interesting to see what has changed (if you don't watch every edit in your music collection for a while)
2012-02-08 03928, 2012
3:19 AM
kepstin
2012-02-08 03910, 2012
3:29 AM
derwin
kepstin: do you romanize ZUN?
2012-02-08 03925, 2012
3:29 AM
kepstin
hmm? what do you mean?
2012-02-08 03929, 2012
3:30 AM
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3:30 AM
derwin
isn't his canonical name "上海アリス幻樂団" ?
2012-02-08 03949, 2012
3:30 AM
derwin
2012-02-08 03952, 2012
3:30 AM
kepstin
derwin: that's the name of his circle.