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      • hawke_
        Work types are BS because they’re derived from classical stuff. :-p
      • 2012-02-08 03945, 2012

      • hawke_
        “This one is a work type because it’s classical…that type is just a genre because it’s pop music”
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      • hawke_
        derp!
      • 2012-02-08 03938, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2012-02-08 03953, 2012

      • hawke_
        Sorry, but “waltz” or “polka” are totally not genres.
      • 2012-02-08 03918, 2012

      • hawke_
        And “aria” and “cantata” are both songs
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      • reosarevok
        hawke_: the original list is compiled from western classical
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      • reosarevok
        Nothing blocks people from RFCing for other stuff
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      • reosarevok
        (and while "Metal Ballad" might be a tough sale, "Waltz" or "Polka" should be simpler)
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      • hawke_
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      • reosarevok would suggest getting opinions from people who might actually edit one :p
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      • reosarevok
        Which is most likely not me nor navap
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      • hawke_
        heh
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      • derwin
        polka is not a genre?
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      • hawke_
        derwin: No.
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      • derwin
        what defines the border of a genre?
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      • hawke_
        It’s a type of dance, and a corresponding music structure
      • 2012-02-08 03915, 2012

      • hawke_
        Though there’s *also* a corresponding genre, I suppose.
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      • hawke_
        fox-trot, jig, march are probably all clearer examples
      • 2012-02-08 03905, 2012

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: I’ll probably RFC them as soon as the new RFC process is done. ;-)
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      • derwin
        hawke_: that was more or less my point. when it was invented it was a type of dance and a corresponding musical structure. immediately afterwards, there was likely an associated genre
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      • VxJasonxV
        I suspect I don't have the right label type for http://musicbrainz.org/label/2dc57703-4604-486c-b…
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      • derwin
        nikki: I have no "save note" button when clicking "add note" from an edit list, in osx chrome
      • 2012-02-08 03914, 2012

      • derwin
        or am I missing it somewhere?
      • 2012-02-08 03935, 2012

      • derwin
        (I just opened the edit in another window and c/p but I can file a ticket if this is in fact a bug..)
      • 2012-02-08 03924, 2012

      • derwin
        new style bot relation, neat : http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16510825
      • 2012-02-08 03955, 2012

      • kepstin
        that's pretty sweet.
      • 2012-02-08 03922, 2012

      • derwin
        yeah, I'm saying
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      • kepstin
        welcome back, kepstin-laptop
      • 2012-02-08 03955, 2012

      • kepstin-laptop
        thanks, it's nice to be here.
      • 2012-02-08 03945, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        Oh crap
      • 2012-02-08 03952, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        I think I just TOTALLY screwed up recording edits.
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      • kepstin
        well, that's too bad. I guess you'll have to go and fix them, then.
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      • VxJasonxV
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      • VxJasonxV
        I think that's a yes...
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      • nikki
        derwin: you have to scroll to the bottom of the page and click the submit button there
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      • nikki
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      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: I have discogs cleanup ready, I’m just waiting for jesus’ proposal to be accepted
      • 2012-02-08 03915, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        because then I don’t have to care about correctly escapong the query string :-)
      • 2012-02-08 03956, 2012

      • nikki
        I see :)
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      • nikki
        and wikipedia?
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      • reosarevok
        What's wiki cleanup going to do?
      • 2012-02-08 03941, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Remove all anchors? :p
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      • nikki
        standardise the way some characters are entered
      • 2012-02-08 03920, 2012

      • reosarevok
        aww
      • 2012-02-08 03929, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, still better than nothing
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      • nikki
        most of them get done automatically, but there are some which are ambiguous and can still end up two ways in the db
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      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: wiki is not done yet
      • 2012-02-08 03947, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf, make it remove "Wikipedia page" from descriptions while you are at it
      • 2012-02-08 03952, 2012

      • reosarevok goes to bed
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      • hrglgrmpf
        are we allowing query strings / anchors for wikipedia?
      • 2012-02-08 03903, 2012

      • nikki
        we don't use query strings at all for wikipedia
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      • reosarevok
        People like those :(
      • 2012-02-08 03906, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (anchors)
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      • hrglgrmpf
        reosarevok: will do :_)
      • 2012-02-08 03922, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        and anchors? are they allowed?
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      • nikki
        we don't have anything forbidding them
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      • nikki
        but some of us hate them
      • 2012-02-08 03942, 2012

      • reosarevok
        A lot of editors like them though
      • 2012-02-08 03944, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So...
      • 2012-02-08 03947, 2012

      • nikki wonders if hrglgrmpf has a messed up sleeping pattern too
      • 2012-02-08 03958, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Maybe he's also a robot
      • 2012-02-08 03900, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: yes, pretty much :-)
      • 2012-02-08 03906, 2012

      • nikki
        I'm not used to seeing europeans (other than reosarevok :P) online at this time of night
      • 2012-02-08 03914, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hey!
      • 2012-02-08 03918, 2012

      • nikki
        :P
      • 2012-02-08 03926, 2012

      • reosarevok looks at v6lur and SultS who tend to be online at 6 AM
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      • nikki
        I'm not used to seeing them online then :P
      • 2012-02-08 03953, 2012

      • nikki
        maybe you talk to them once I've gone to bed
      • 2012-02-08 03905, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        will all change once I end my studying time in a month or two :-(
      • 2012-02-08 03910, 2012

      • nikki
        aww
      • 2012-02-08 03916, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        :-)
      • 2012-02-08 03912, 2012

      • nikki should really be in bed because she's yet again waiting for something to be delivered
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      • hrglgrmpf
        ha, I know that
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      • nikki
        although it won't come tomorrow, I still have to get up early in a couple of days
      • 2012-02-08 03957, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        today the guy for the gas heating couldn't wake me up :-(
      • 2012-02-08 03911, 2012

      • nikki
        ah :/
      • 2012-02-08 03911, 2012

      • kepstin
        can everyone go and add the tag 'touhou' to http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b8155f6d-7852-4486-… ?
      • 2012-02-08 03917, 2012

      • kepstin
        I want him to be the touhouest artist.
      • 2012-02-08 03932, 2012

      • reosarevok disappears instead
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      • nikki
        I have that problem. reosarevok can confirm it, since he put my phone on the bed while it was going off and I still continued sleeping :P
      • 2012-02-08 03924, 2012

      • kepstin
        my alarm did wake me up this morning, but not enough to keep me up :/
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      • nikki
        yeah, that too
      • 2012-02-08 03953, 2012

      • nikki
        I love my phone because it lets me set a whole range of alarms all for the same morning
      • 2012-02-08 03953, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        yes, I have a very firm sleep after being awake for 30+ hours :-)
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      • nikki
        so I can be like 9:00, 9:15, 9:30, 10:00 and then eventually it works
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      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: is http://pastebin.com/xe4Efthr codified somewhere in the server (preferably reachable in the JS)?
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      • nikki
        no
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      • kepstin
        this is annoying, because I have classes on some days, and if I'm not out the door by 8:30, I miss my bus.
      • 2012-02-08 03910, 2012

      • nikki
        set more alarms!
      • 2012-02-08 03941, 2012

      • kepstin
        but then I just get more annoyed on days I don't have classes :)
      • 2012-02-08 03949, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        nikki: is it some perl function? do you know the location?
      • 2012-02-08 03907, 2012

      • nikki
        uhh
      • 2012-02-08 03940, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        I get it, you did find it out by trial-and-error ;-)?
      • 2012-02-08 03901, 2012

      • nikki
        >_> <_<
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      • nikki
        the ones which are automatically encoded/decoded I figured out by pasting a url into mb and seeing what changed
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      • nikki
        the rest were just done by checking what the sites actually use
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      • nikki
        although actually I don't think wikipedia use [ and ] at all (would make sense since they use those characters to create links in the first place)
      • 2012-02-08 03926, 2012

      • nikki
        I could have sworn I saw them though, maybe I was hallucinating by that point :P
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      • hrglgrmpf
        hehe
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      • hrglgrmpf
        for discogs this gives good results:
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      • hrglgrmpf
        encodeURIComponent(decodeURIComponent(m[2].replace(/\+/g, "%20"))).replace(/%20/g, "+")
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      • hrglgrmpf
        m[2] being the name of the artist or label
      • 2012-02-08 03936, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        for wiki its more complicated, and needs more testing…
      • 2012-02-08 03907, 2012

      • nikki nods
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      • nikki
        gah, this new picard stuff will take some getting used to
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      • nikki
        I mean, it looks way better
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      • nikki
        but it's surprisingly bright where it wasn't before :P
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      • kepstin
        huh, something changed in picard? I don't notice any different in the latest git...
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      • nikki
        maybe it's still in a branch
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      • nikki
        there's some stuff for showing a more diff-like view of the tags
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      • hrglgrmpf
        thats bitmaps tagdiff branch
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      • hrglgrmpf
        it is genious
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      • hrglgrmpf
        especially for developing
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      • hrglgrmpf
        but also very interesting to see what has changed (if you don't watch every edit in your music collection for a while)
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      • kepstin
        aw, man... I made it to page 7 of ZUN's works... which means I have to go through http://musicbrainz.org/work/8e59a59c-c4fa-30fa-8a… and clean it up now :(
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      • derwin
        kepstin: do you romanize ZUN?
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      • kepstin
        hmm? what do you mean?
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      • derwin
        isn't his canonical name "上海アリス幻樂団" ?
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      • derwin
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      • kepstin
        derwin: that's the name of his circle.