(and if you think blending music is not 'musical' that's a discussion for another time, lol)
2012-03-10 07048, 2012
derwin
if the album has an artist, and the tracks feature guests
2012-03-10 07001, 2012
derwin
I don't see why the guests are suddently credited as artists on the album
2012-03-10 07011, 2012
derwin
it's still a method man album even if raekwon is on some tracks
2012-03-10 07016, 2012
reosarevok
(does he do that? all I've read about it is more like "he joins some people to perform together")
2012-03-10 07019, 2012
derwin
the track is still "by" method man
2012-03-10 07031, 2012
reosarevok
It's a MM album, sure (which is why he's album artist)
2012-03-10 07049, 2012
reosarevok
But the track gives a special attribution to Rae, after all
2012-03-10 07005, 2012
reosarevok
(instead of listing it in the small print with "vocals, Raekwon")
2012-03-10 07013, 2012
derwin
hrm, I guess I see your point...
2012-03-10 07047, 2012
derwin
I guess it's actually righter to have it in the artist there
2012-03-10 07009, 2012
derwin
although if you create a new entity that doesn't exist
2012-03-10 07018, 2012
derwin
"Method Man featuring. Raekwon"
2012-03-10 07047, 2012
reosarevok
Also, when they play that kind of stuff in a music video channel for example, I would say it tends to be given as "Method Man feat. Raekwon" - "song" (but I haven't watched musical TV in aaaaages)
2012-03-10 07013, 2012
derwin
what I prefer about it being in the artist, I guess
2012-03-10 07023, 2012
derwin
is that the two entities smooshed together there
2012-03-10 07024, 2012
derwin
are the same
2012-03-10 07032, 2012
derwin
versus in the title
2012-03-10 07042, 2012
derwin
where a title and artist credit are being smooshed together
2012-03-10 07004, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah
2012-03-10 07015, 2012
derwin
so I'm all turned around on the subject
2012-03-10 07022, 2012
derwin
better to smoosh similar entities when overloading
2012-03-10 07037, 2012
reosarevok
Not that it's perfect, though (it might make sense to be able to actually credit -and link- a remixer in the title)
2012-03-10 07004, 2012
reosarevok
(although there I see a point to just not link it except in the credits, too)
2012-03-10 07011, 2012
reosarevok
But I do see it as better than before
2012-03-10 07013, 2012
reosarevok
Aaanyway
2012-03-10 07018, 2012
reosarevok goes back to catch pokémon
2012-03-10 07024, 2012
derwin
well, in those cases, "blahblahblah remix" is often the *name* of the remix
2012-03-10 07029, 2012
derwin
as well as the artist credit for the remix
2012-03-10 07004, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah, that's why I said keep it in the title - and why I'm not too sure whether using it as a credit-ish thing is actually good or not
2012-03-10 07030, 2012
reosarevok
Someone kill Twitter spammers
2012-03-10 07041, 2012
derwin
kill soundcloud spammers too.
2012-03-10 07054, 2012
reosarevok
Really?
2012-03-10 07058, 2012
reosarevok
In SoundCloud?
2012-03-10 07008, 2012
reosarevok
What's this, hipster spam?
2012-03-10 07029, 2012
reosarevok
Well, I guess if they attacked MB, they don't care too much how *huge* the mass being spammed is :p
yeah, but the scripts are not all that useful if the works are on different pages of the work list
2012-03-10 07059, 2012
thread
Mineo: thanks for looking, anyway
2012-03-10 07041, 2012
nikki notes http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-April/002079.html from 6 years ago for people who think dvds shouldn't be added :P
2012-03-10 07043, 2012
thread
is someone else perhaps better equipped to answer my (UTF-8 related) question ?
2012-03-10 07011, 2012
thread
or .. any further thoughts on exactly what the problem step could be ?
2012-03-10 07036, 2012
reosarevok wishes he could help but can't :(
2012-03-10 07041, 2012
reosarevok
nikki: any ideas?
2012-03-10 07017, 2012
nikki
thread: the only thing I can think of is that the locale is ascii and picard uses it to decide which encoding to write the filenames in
2012-03-10 07040, 2012
nikki
'cause I know picard can write unicode filenames, I do it all the time :/
2012-03-10 07023, 2012
thread
is that a systemwide setting ?
2012-03-10 07043, 2012
thread
sry for the lame question… & thanks for the direction to look
2012-03-10 07012, 2012
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2012-03-10 07025, 2012
nikki
hm. not entirely sure how it works, I've always just set everything I could to utf-8
2012-03-10 07028, 2012
nikki
(and it might not be the right answer, I don't know exactly how picard handles the filename stuff)
2012-03-10 07029, 2012
jonnyjd
@thread: you are on what OS?
2012-03-10 07012, 2012
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2012-03-10 07013, 2012
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2012-03-10 07022, 2012
thread
jonnyjd: arch linux
2012-03-10 07054, 2012
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2012-03-10 07058, 2012
jonnyjd
hm, same as me. I also use flac and german umlauts, but I didn't do much with 0.16
2012-03-10 07015, 2012
jonnyjd
Locale is normally set in /etc/rc.conf
2012-03-10 07019, 2012
thread
i was on 0.16.4… and i just tried installing the picard-git aur
2012-03-10 07040, 2012
jonnyjd
but can be set for every user different and even for every program. But normally it isn't
2012-03-10 07041, 2012
thread
yeah… it def could be a change. i did a big upgrade / change to rc.conf the other day
2012-03-10 07031, 2012
thread
ah.. good to know
2012-03-10 07038, 2012
jonnyjd
Possibly the mounted fs can't handle UTF (samba share without utf set?), but I don't think picard would give an error like that, then
2012-03-10 07055, 2012
thread
i'm vaguely familiar with it, but haven't played with it much
2012-03-10 07004, 2012
thread
yeah, that does not seem to be the problem
2012-03-10 07006, 2012
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2012-03-10 07058, 2012
nikki managed to reproduce it
2012-03-10 07002, 2012
Mineo
and now you're not telling us how?:P
2012-03-10 07049, 2012
nikki
no! >:P
2012-03-10 07053, 2012
nikki
LC_ALL=C picard
2012-03-10 07012, 2012
nikki
save anything with non-ascii, same error
2012-03-10 07020, 2012
thread
ooh
2012-03-10 07021, 2012
jonnyjd
in a terminal "echo $LANG" gives me de_DE.UTF-8" on arch
2012-03-10 07045, 2012
nikki
or just "locale" in a terminal
2012-03-10 07048, 2012
Mineo
but then thread would hopefully have seen the big warning that appears, right?
2012-03-10 07054, 2012
jonnyjd
what have you set LOCALE in /etc/rc.conf?
2012-03-10 07032, 2012
thread
yeah, i would totally check that right now, but i'm away from the system for a minute...
2012-03-10 07041, 2012
thread
it sounds like this must be the problem… what should it be set to ?
2012-03-10 07007, 2012
thread
en_US.UTF-8 ?
2012-03-10 07017, 2012
jonnyjd
something with UTF in it. there is a list of options in /etc/locale.conf, I think
2012-03-10 07020, 2012
thread
im a michigander :)
2012-03-10 07021, 2012
jonnyjd
yes, that would be valid
2012-03-10 07033, 2012
Mineo
/etc/locale.gen
2012-03-10 07053, 2012
Mineo
/etc/locale.conf is the one that overwrites the locale setting in /etc/rc.conf
