'Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu' is on the cover of the album 'Gurrumul'. On the album 'Rrakala' he appears as simply 'Gurrumul'
2012-12-28 36330, 2012
ELWisty
So taken individually, both are correct, but it makes for some untidy tagging
2012-12-28 36355, 2012
hawke_1
IMO merge them, but that’s just IMO.
2012-12-28 36317, 2012
Jozo
I would merge Gurrumul to the legal name...
2012-12-28 36323, 2012
hawke_1
I would go the other way.
2012-12-28 36330, 2012
ELWisty
Reminds me of the old 'T-Rex' vs 'Tyrannosaurus Rex' conundrum
2012-12-28 36300, 2012
ELWisty
I kinda agree with Jozo on this one. But that's just my opinion
2012-12-28 36332, 2012
hawke_1
I wouldn’t vote no on it. :-)
2012-12-28 36359, 2012
hawke_1
(Unless it also changed the artist credits, of course)
2012-12-28 36321, 2012
Freso
What do they use most/now?
2012-12-28 36325, 2012
Freso
Oh.
2012-12-28 36337, 2012
Freso
Yes.
2012-12-28 36341, 2012
ELWisty
Of course, this also extends to artists (using the term loosely) such as Cheryl Cole. Now she' just 'Cheryl'. Is there a convention for dealing with this?
2012-12-28 36352, 2012
Freso
I'd merge into the answer to that question.
2012-12-28 36316, 2012
hawke_1
ELWisty: There is precedent, but not really convention.
2012-12-28 36332, 2012
Freso
Each case is different.
2012-12-28 36311, 2012
Freso
ELWisty: I'd say Cheryl Cole should still be Cheryl Cole. If she's presented in a talkshow, they want just say "And with us tonight, we have Cheryl!", they'd use Cole too.
2012-12-28 36325, 2012
Freso
*won't
2012-12-28 36343, 2012
ELWisty
Hmmm+++
2012-12-28 36350, 2012
hawke_1
Björk G…r was merged, Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam is not…June Carter [Cash] is…
2012-12-28 36306, 2012
ELWisty
So should I merge and *not* update artist credits?
2012-12-28 36335, 2012
hawke_1
If you do merge, and if there are releases credited both ways, correct.
Freso, I'll have to take your word for that. If I heard a presenter say "And with us tonight, we have Cheryl!", I'd switch channels immediately :-)
2012-12-28 36330, 2012
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2012-12-28 36300, 2012
ELWisty
That's odd. I just attempted another merge and as soon as I clicked the 'Enter edit' button, I go bounced up to the top level of the site and the edit didn't get entered
Bach's death brought on the Classical Era. My theory is that Bach new what was coming, and was using his wizardry to stave it off
2012-12-28 36351, 2012
hawke_1
ELWisty: :-D
2012-12-28 36319, 2012
Freso
Heh.
2012-12-28 36327, 2012
Freso
"Ludwig van Beethoven is also sometimes regarded either as a Romantic composer or a composer who was part of the transition to the Romantic."
2012-12-28 36336, 2012
Phryq
and then he was reincarnated as Frank Zappa, and did the same thing all over
2012-12-28 36338, 2012
Freso
Like I said, Mozart's more classical-classical than Beethoven. :D
2012-12-28 36346, 2012
warp
Freso: indeed!
2012-12-28 36305, 2012
Phryq
but I'd say Haydn is more classical-classical that Mozart
2012-12-28 36356, 2012
Phryq
Mozart had a hint of Baroque, and a hint of Romantic, and that's why I can tolerate him. Hayn is just meh.
2012-12-28 36341, 2012
Phryq
oh, I'm gonna add to the theory that I am not Bach incarnatefor the 3rd time
2012-12-28 36308, 2012
Phryq
somehow Frank Zappa re-incarnated himself before dying. Just like him. . .
2012-12-28 36325, 2012
Phryq
this gives me mucho credibility as a musician
2012-12-28 36303, 2012
Phryq
do you ever have a craving to listen to HQ recordings of really big pianos?
2012-12-28 36332, 2012
ELWisty
Oddly enough, no.
2012-12-28 36303, 2012
Phryq
I can only find one, and it's not HQ
2012-12-28 36339, 2012
Phryq
why are there not many recordings using good mics of the best pianos in the world?
2012-12-28 36359, 2012
ELWisty
Anyhow, I have just tagged this and all the track names are preceded by the artist name. I am using the 'featured artists' plugin to move the featured artists to the track names, but it still has 'High Contrast' in front of every track name. No other albums appear to be doing this
2012-12-28 36331, 2012
ELWisty
Phryq, It's not my forte
2012-12-28 36346, 2012
Phryq
ah, it's your piano
2012-12-28 36348, 2012
Phryq
. . .
2012-12-28 36359, 2012
reosarevok
lol
2012-12-28 36308, 2012
Phryq
anyhow, I only have a minor interest
2012-12-28 36311, 2012
reosarevok
ELWisty: maybe it's set as disc title or something?
2012-12-28 36355, 2012
Phryq
sorry, but this convo is starting to get flat
2012-12-28 36331, 2012
reosarevok
Not sharp enough?
2012-12-28 36304, 2012
Phryq
reosarevok, you're so in tune with my humour
2012-12-28 36325, 2012
Phryq
that's the key to getting on my good side
2012-12-28 36347, 2012
Phryq
which is neccesary if you want to make any progression in the biz
2012-12-28 36317, 2012
Phryq is trying to stop, but has too late realized he is on a dark path which he finds himself unable to abandon
2012-12-28 36330, 2012
ELWisty
All this is failing to strike any chord with me
2012-12-28 36351, 2012
Phryq
ELWisty, don't use that tone with me.
2012-12-28 36359, 2012
hawke_1
I’m bassically just amused by this.
2012-12-28 36332, 2012
hawke_1
But you guys really should treble your efforts
2012-12-28 36350, 2012
ELWisty
I suppose I I can't beat them...
2012-12-28 36321, 2012
ELWisty
...I may as well pitch in with them
2012-12-28 36342, 2012
Freso
ELWisty: What did you use to tag with? Which release is it?
2012-12-28 36356, 2012
hawke_1
Freso: Where’s the music pun in that one?
2012-12-28 36359, 2012
ELWisty
Picard 1.1
2012-12-28 36352, 2012
ELWisty
We'll reprise the puns later
2012-12-28 36328, 2012
Freso
hawke_1: I hadn't reached further than that note in the backscroll.
2012-12-28 36343, 2012
ELWisty
This makes no sense at all. Why the hell is it putting the main artist name in the file name/
2012-12-28 36334, 2012
reosarevok
maybe it's detecting it as an VA release or somethinh?
2012-12-28 36346, 2012
ELWisty
Seems it's treating it like a VA release
2012-12-28 36319, 2012
ELWisty
Wish I'd thought of that :-)
2012-12-28 36346, 2012
ELWisty
The new version seems to have inserted $if($eq(%compilation%,1) into my file naming script. Does that eqaute to VA?
2012-12-28 36355, 2012
ELWisty
*equate
2012-12-28 36312, 2012
Phryq
sorry about that break; I had to rest.
2012-12-28 36333, 2012
Phryq
crap; how can I get massive views of my music online?
2012-12-28 36357, 2012
ELWisty
Use a bigger font
2012-12-28 36303, 2012
hawke_1
ELWisty: compilation is 'release type: compilation' I believe.
2012-12-28 36321, 2012
ELWisty
hawke_1, That's what I thought. I never put that test in. It happened when i upgraded Picard - merged my two scripts into one automagically
2012-12-28 36323, 2012
hawke_1
(or is that RG-type)
2012-12-28 36325, 2012
hawke_1
anyway, that.
2012-12-28 36335, 2012
reosarevok
Nope, it's VA
2012-12-28 36343, 2012
hawke_1
Is it?
2012-12-28 36349, 2012
reosarevok
(iTunes-style compilation)
2012-12-28 36350, 2012
hawke_1
I never quite understood that tag anyway.
2012-12-28 36353, 2012
reosarevok
Pretty sure it is
2012-12-28 36355, 2012
ELWisty
reosarevok, What? On MB? That is incorrect if it is
2012-12-28 36315, 2012
reosarevok
No, the meaning of that picard "compilation" thing
2012-12-28 36342, 2012
ELWisty
reosarevok, So how does Picard decide if the release is VA?
2012-12-28 36355, 2012
Phryq
anyone know a good program for making visuals to go with music, which can then be uploaded to youtube as a video?
2012-12-28 36326, 2012
reosarevok
ELWisty: if not all tracks have the same artist, AFAIK
2012-12-28 36356, 2012
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2012-12-28 36303, 2012
ELWisty
reosarevok, That sucks then. This album just happens to have many different featured artists
2012-12-28 36358, 2012
ELWisty
IMO VA should mean "If the album artist is 'Various Artists'" or something like that
2012-12-28 36300, 2012
reosarevok
I'm sure the behaviour can be changed, but I don't know how :) Others here do Picard scripting stuff though, they should know
2012-12-28 36337, 2012
reosarevok
Well, for example for a djmix, the mixer can be the artist with all track artists being different
2012-12-28 36347, 2012
ELWisty
It never used to behave this way. It's about to break many of my albums. I just found a few more that it's hosed
2012-12-28 36325, 2012
reosarevok
It always behaved this way IIRC - it's just that before featured artists weren't in the artist field for it to detect them
2012-12-28 36349, 2012
reosarevok
I would have expected that the plugin moving them to titles would affect it *before* it did the check though :/
2012-12-28 36324, 2012
ELWisty
There appears to be no easy way to alter the execution order of plugins
2012-12-28 36317, 2012
Freso
ELWisty: You still haven't linked to the release, have you?
2012-12-28 36337, 2012
ELWisty
Freso, What do you mean?
2012-12-28 36355, 2012
nikki
do you need the compilation tag?
2012-12-28 36317, 2012
Freso
ELWisty: We can't really see the details about the release in question if you don't tell us which release it is you're working with. :)
2012-12-28 36321, 2012
nikki
if not, you could unset it and just compare the album artist mbid with the mbid for various artists
reosarevok: Perhaps Picard does the compilation tag based on multiple Artist MBIDs?
2012-12-28 36334, 2012
ELWisty
nikki, No. That release is being treted as a VA release by Picard even though i'm moving the featured artists to the track titles. The files are all getting 'High Contrast' prepended to the file names
2012-12-28 36357, 2012
Freso
ELWisty: And she told you how to work around that.
2012-12-28 36317, 2012
nikki
in fact, you can probably just change the file naming string to compare the mbids, shouldn't matter what the compilation tag is set to then
2012-12-28 36338, 2012
ELWisty
Not sure how to do that
2012-12-28 36345, 2012
Freso
nikki: I usually set the naming to compare track artist name against release artist name.
2012-12-28 36337, 2012
Freso
nikki: Sometimes you have e.g., a DJ releasing a mixtape with a lot of artists, so it's essentially a VA release, but it is attributed to someone, and not the VA artist entity.
