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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Wikipedia abstracts
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        At least nikki's script does display the image
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • reosarevok
        Does anyone know how to change a forum description in punbb?
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      • reosarevok
        Support for the MusicBrainz Classic and Picard taggers."
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      • reosarevok
        And I'm pretty sure we don't really offer support for Classic Tagger :p
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      • luks changed it
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      • kepstin
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayL4pzictu8 - huh, that's a new artist credit style, "livetune adding 中島 愛"
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      • kepstin
        where it appears that 'adding' just means the same thing as 'feat.'
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      • lantizia
        reosarevok, hey I'm for like 2 secs grabbing something - what mail?
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      • reosarevok
        lantizia: I sent you some google+ mail thing
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      • reosarevok
        Not sure how it works, maybe you need to log in to g+ to see it or something
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      • lantizia
        don't see anything on g+
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      • lantizia
        nothing in either of my email accounts either
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      • reosarevok
        weird
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      • reosarevok
        anyway, it's just a place where MB info contradicts your scan and I'd like you to check if the cover is wrong or if there are two different editions
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Tracks 7 and 8 are respectively 8 and 7 on the cover
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      • lantizia
        so mb has track 7 listed as 8 and track 8 listed as 7?
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      • reosarevok
        Yes
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      • reosarevok
        But we also have a discID that confirms such a version does exist
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      • reosarevok
        So the doubt is whether there are two versions
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      • reosarevok
        Or a cover mistake
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      • lantizia
        hmm - well I've got both files here - no idea which is supposed to sound like what though lol
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      • lantizia
        lemme youtube search espana opus or something
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      • reosarevok
        Well
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      • reosarevok
        Invitation is supposed to be long and orchestral
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      • reosarevok
        The other is shorter and piano-only
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      • lantizia
        yeah 7 is definitely 7 as listed, and 8 is definitely 8
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      • lantizia
        maybe the existing version on mb is a mistake?
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      • lantizia
        can you find a rear cover that shows the tracks the other way around?
      • 2012-12-01 33600, 2012

      • lantizia
        or perhaps the info that was used as source for the existing entry is bad
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      • reosarevok
        Nah, I'm fairly sure the one on MB is also correct
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      • reosarevok
        So I probably just need to add a second version :)
      • 2012-12-01 33638, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I imagine your discID doesn't match the existing MB one?
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      • reosarevok
        (if you do CD lookup on Picard, does it find something?)
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      • lantizia
        yeah I've already matched 14 in picard before you even begun work
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      • lantizia
        but it's matched my 7 as 7 and my 8 as 8
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      • reosarevok
        Huh
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      • lantizia
        according to picard there already seems to be 2 versions of this disc in mb
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      • reosarevok
        Can you get me the link to the other one? :)
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      • lantizia
        umm i dunno how to get picard to give me the links lol
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      • lantizia
        im looking on the 'other version' menu
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      • lantizia
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      • reosarevok
        select the disc on the right pane, "lookup in browser"
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      • lantizia
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      • lantizia
        those two?
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      • lantizia
        i have to go anyway, only popped in the office for a cable :D
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      • reosarevok
        uh, this is In Celebration, not An Invitation to Dance
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      • reosarevok
        (the first one :) )
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      • reosarevok waits for the second one to load
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      • lantizia
        those're the two picard matched to my files
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      • reosarevok
        For 014?
      • 2012-12-01 33630, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ... weeeird
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      • reosarevok
        Well, let's look into this at another moment :)
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      • lantizia
        oh crap - hang on!
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, fine
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      • lantizia
        my 14 isn't the old 14 in mb
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      • reosarevok
        I will
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      • reosarevok
        Indeed
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      • lantizia
        so I've given you total nonsense - one sec
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      • lantizia
        hmm ok - picard was going to retag my 8 as 7 and retag my 8 as 7
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      • lantizia
        sorry 7 as 7
      • 2012-12-01 33601, 2012

      • lantizia
        7 as 8
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      • lantizia
        jesus.... picard was going to retag my 8 as 7 and retag my 7 as 8 :D
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      • reosarevok
        So pretty likely they're two versions then, yes
      • 2012-12-01 33635, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ok!
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      • reosarevok
        I will add a second one then :)
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      • reosarevok
        Thanks!
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      • lantizia
        well if picard knows what 7 sounds like - surely that means it's wrong to retag my 7 as 8?
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      • lantizia
        i doubt there will be two versions
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      • reosarevok
        Well, this was also published in the US a few years later
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      • reosarevok
        And in Sweden, translated
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      • reosarevok
        So it can be that the later US version changed the order and that's what we have
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      • reosarevok
        (fairly sure the all UK ones will be the same)
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      • lantizia
        dunno :S
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      • lantizia
        any bbl
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, enjoy! :)
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      • Lomaxx
        mitted and saved again. But today I am having much bigger problems where several, complete CDs are not recognized on the second scan (after submitting).
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      • Lomaxx
        not sure but to me this seems like some network-submission or internal database-sync problem.
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      • reosarevok
        Lomaxx: acoustID is not automatic - info is sent and then processed on their servers
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      • reosarevok
        So I guess it's normal that it takes some more time if it's overloaded or something, dunno
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      • Lomaxx
        reosarevok, I thought about waiting, but wanted to use the time till then for some feedback on that topic. :) So thanks for that.
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: think I didn't see you yet since then, so - the echonest thing is on the customer page now in case you hadn't seen :)
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      • reosarevok goes for a walk with his couchsurfer, back later
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      • ruaok
        thank reoafk
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      • kepstin
        huh, that's interesting. nicovideo.jp has started to add 'Music download' links to selected videos which give you an aac file.
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      • kepstin
        isn't "speed trance" an oxymoron?
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      • drsaunde
        kepstin: do you mean really fast dance music or hypnosis?
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      • drsaunde
        not actually being facetious, i have a friend who calls himself a speed trance master
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      • drsaunde
        but that's because he can quickly hypnotize people
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      • warp
        kepstin: hm, trance isn't particularly fast is it?
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      • Freso
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music - "characterized by a tempo of between 110 and 150 beats per minute"
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      • Freso
        Could be faster, but isn't slow.
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      • rochusw
        is there a problem? i get a lot of "bad gateway" at the moment
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      • rochusw
        works again... good, I had a lot of relations in the editor
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      • intgr
        What's the difference between "provided graphic design" and "provided design/illustration" relationships?
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      • intgr
        This confuses me every time
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      • kepstin
        warp: drsaunde: http://anitra.jp/ an entire (now 16-volume) series of cover songs done in a "speed trance" style :/
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      • nikki
        I think the simplest answer is nobody knows :P
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      • intgr
        So why are there 2? :)
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      • nikki
        nobody knows :P
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      • nikki
        they've been there a long time
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      • intgr
        Hehe
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      • nikki
        they annoy the hell out of reoafk
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      • reoafk
        Yes, and there's no good way of fixing them
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      • reoafk is going out again though
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      • intgr
        Why not just merge them to a single relationship type?
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      • reoafk
        But the summary is "since nobody understands them, only option would seem to be merging them together
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      • intgr
        :)
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      • reoafk
        Yeah. I'd rather just merge the designs and make the other "illustration/artwork" or something
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      • reoafk
        But that wouldn't be feasible :(
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      • kepstin has used the 'illustration' one to mean someone who drew a picture, vs. 'provided graphic design' to be someone who decided layout, did artwork direction.
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      • intgr
        ah ok
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      • reoafk
        kepstin: sure, but if credited for "design", what do you pick? :p
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      • kepstin
        bleh.
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      • reoafk
        My opinion exactly
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      • reoafk goes out
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      • nikki
        kepstin: there's a separate relationship for art direction
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      • kepstin
        http://hatsunetsumikos.net/nbfs/ handily has credits explicitly for "illustrations" and "graphic design" listed :)
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      • kepstin
        (to the same person, but whatever)
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      • warp
        lol kepstin
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      • JoeLlama
        私はあなたの中国語が好きじゃない
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      • kepstin
        why don't you like my chinese?
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      • nikki was wondering too
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      • JoeLlama
        heh
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      • JoeLlama
        just something to say (:
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      • JoeLlama
        I liked that japanese group
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      • nikki
        which one?
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      • MissDee
        does anyone know of any simple, tag reader libraries for linux?