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      • reosarevok
        http://www.discogs.com/release/1675466 seems to be a Finnish release of it with Estonian titles though
      • 2012-01-21 02115, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Or... a re-recording, maybe
      • 2012-01-21 02156, 2012

      • reosarevok is tempted to just add that one instead and forget about the hard one :p
      • 2012-01-21 02127, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Speaking of which: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=557822 Discogs call this one Apelsin, the book uses "14 lugu"
      • 2012-01-21 02133, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Opinions? :)
      • 2012-01-21 02145, 2012

      • juhae
        prolly just a licensed release
      • 2012-01-21 02113, 2012

      • reosarevok
        juhae, that's what I thought
      • 2012-01-21 02119, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But it says "recorded in Finland"
      • 2012-01-21 02146, 2012

      • juhae
        kansankulttuuri oy was a publishing company formed by the finnish communists and finland-soviet union friendship association
      • 2012-01-21 02151, 2012

      • juhae
        hmm
      • 2012-01-21 02126, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (while the other says "Tallinn studio recording")
      • 2012-01-21 02143, 2012

      • juhae
        rather confusing
      • 2012-01-21 02100, 2012

      • v6lur
        reosarevok: i wouldn't call it "14 lugu"... it only means "14 tracks/songs" and i perceive it as a marketing-ish thing
      • 2012-01-21 02105, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, me too
      • 2012-01-21 02109, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So I guess Apelsin too
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      • v6lur
        looks like that, yes... http://apelsin.ee/plaadid.htm
      • 2012-01-21 02152, 2012

      • v6lur
        3 different releases named "apelsin" -.-
      • 2012-01-21 02111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah :p
      • 2012-01-21 02120, 2012

      • v6lur
        (could have named one of them mandarin, at least...)
      • 2012-01-21 02105, 2012

      • reosarevok quite lazily entered the FI version instead http://musicbrainz.org/release/14ca49b5-ce79-46ff-8c2f-214e24455e7f
      • 2012-01-21 02105, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I wonder if that site is reason enough to enter the SU version with EE titles too :p
      • 2012-01-21 02152, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Also, juhae http://musicbrainz.org/label/fc781372-6635-4c09-b… should it be written like that, or all together?
      • 2012-01-21 02101, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Discogs and WP disagree :/
      • 2012-01-21 02145, 2012

      • juhae
        together, i'd say
      • 2012-01-21 02156, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ok, will edit
      • 2012-01-21 02101, 2012

      • juhae
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      • reosarevok gives up with this band and goes to the next - v6lur, feel free to add the SU edition :)
      • 2012-01-21 02123, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I asked because that looks in two lines
      • 2012-01-21 02124, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-01-21 02157, 2012

      • juhae
        at least its grammatically correct to write it together
      • 2012-01-21 02120, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • 2012-01-21 02126, 2012

      • v6lur
        reosarevok: i wonder if the SU one shoud go into same RG...
      • 2012-01-21 02134, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Me too
      • 2012-01-21 02139, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I'd say maybe not
      • 2012-01-21 02143, 2012

      • v6lur
        with seemingly different recordings...
      • 2012-01-21 02143, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But... not sure
      • 2012-01-21 02147, 2012

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2012-01-21 02152, 2012

      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        RU + EN
      • 2012-01-21 02103, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (the book gives EE)
      • 2012-01-21 02119, 2012

      • reosarevok says fuck all and enters EE
      • 2012-01-21 02130, 2012

      • v6lur
        hm, i think i have a rip of that... and quite possibly even the vinyl at my parents' place...
      • 2012-01-21 02159, 2012

      • v6lur
        or at least i've seen it somewhere in vinyl form
      • 2012-01-21 02111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        it's kinda silly
      • 2012-01-21 02118, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The album title is in EE, but no EE titles? :/
      • 2012-01-21 02113, 2012

      • v6lur
        agreed...
      • 2012-01-21 02107, 2012

      • reosarevok
        EE titles it is
      • 2012-01-21 02117, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Someone can "correct" it later if it offends them
      • 2012-01-21 02111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm, Fix 15 was clearly named so in the cover
      • 2012-01-21 02117, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But where do they get Fix 20 from http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2792204 ? :/
      • 2012-01-21 02145, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Argh, the tricky Apelsin one is also on the book :p
      • 2012-01-21 02130, 2012

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      • kovacsur
        We interpret programs on 8-tracks as tracks, right?
      • 2012-01-21 02141, 2012

      • reosarevok has never entered one so no idea :/
      • 2012-01-21 02152, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess hawke would know for sure, but he's not around
      • 2012-01-21 02118, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Too late anyway, I just added the release :p
      • 2012-01-21 02145, 2012

      • kovacsur
        I'm 99% sure we do
      • 2012-01-21 02142, 2012

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      • _5moufl
        If I want to add the original artist to a cover for an album full of covers of different artists
      • 2012-01-21 02118, 2012

      • _5moufl
        DO I have to add a relation one by one to every track ?
      • 2012-01-21 02146, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You are supposed to relate each recording to a work :p
      • 2012-01-21 02151, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So, if the work exists, yes
      • 2012-01-21 02157, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If not, more than one
      • 2012-01-21 02125, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If you feel too lazy for it (or don't have the time), I guess you could leave the list in the annotation and hope someone does it, maybe
      • 2012-01-21 02116, 2012

      • _5moufl
        so yes one by one ? if i understood correctly
      • 2012-01-21 02110, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yep
      • 2012-01-21 02118, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But it's not a track-track relationship
      • 2012-01-21 02121, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But a recording-work one
      • 2012-01-21 02145, 2012

      • _5moufl
        yep
      • 2012-01-21 02109, 2012

      • _5moufl
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/20f1e791-34cd-4b47… can you check this out to see if I did this correctly ? I'm gonna add the recording-work relationships now if it's ok
      • 2012-01-21 02132, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In general, it looks good, yep. Although I'd argue if "U" is printed in CD 1, there's no reason to correct that one
      • 2012-01-21 02152, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And I think the agreement on Take On Me was that the On there was part of the verb "to take on" and should be capitalised
      • 2012-01-21 02103, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, I would go with russian titles myself, besides album title “Apelsin”, as this is the most featured language. We used to have this record I think, I could try to find it
      • 2012-01-21 02107, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But not enough reason to vote no, for sure - it can be easily fixed itself
      • 2012-01-21 02127, 2012

      • reosarevok
        itself? wtf? fixed, without itself :p
      • 2012-01-21 02155, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS: I think I entered in Estonian in the end, but I wouldn't vote no if someone changed it either
      • 2012-01-21 02129, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, there were also official estonian titles somewhere?
      • 2012-01-21 02150, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For the Apelsin one, there are Estonian titles in the Finnish release of it
      • 2012-01-21 02159, 2012

      • _5moufl
        U ?
      • 2012-01-21 02103, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and in the book I'm using)
      • 2012-01-21 02112, 2012

      • SultS
        oh, right, I see it now
      • 2012-01-21 02114, 2012

      • reosarevok
        _5moufl, you corrected "U" to "You" in one of the titles
      • 2012-01-21 02121, 2012

      • _5moufl
        shit
      • 2012-01-21 02124, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's OK
      • 2012-01-21 02128, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The rest looks fine
      • 2012-01-21 02138, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So I guess I can just approve and fix :)
      • 2012-01-21 02153, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, I probably won’t fix it unless I find the record myself and decide then
      • 2012-01-21 02106, 2012

      • _5moufl
        can I cancel all the edits at once reosarevok ?
      • 2012-01-21 02111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        _5moufl, why?
      • 2012-01-21 02116, 2012

      • SultS
        ESTER has it in russian = english thouigh
      • 2012-01-21 02119, 2012

      • _5moufl
        or do what you wanted to do
      • 2012-01-21 02120, 2012

      • reosarevok
        All the rest seems OK
      • 2012-01-21 02124, 2012

      • _5moufl
        approve and change my mistake
      • 2012-01-21 02140, 2012

      • _5moufl
        I'll be careful with the "guess case" next time
      • 2012-01-21 02148, 2012

      • _5moufl
        mistakes*
      • 2012-01-21 02126, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-01-21 02146, 2012

      • _5moufl
        hl me when it's done so I can start adding r/s
      • 2012-01-21 02123, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Done
      • 2012-01-21 02136, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I'll probably come and approve the recording changes too once you add the works
      • 2012-01-21 02141, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ping me when it's finished :)
      • 2012-01-21 02127, 2012

      • _5moufl
        ;) thx
      • 2012-01-21 02109, 2012

      • _5moufl
        no open edits but why is it still yellowed out ?
      • 2012-01-21 02113, 2012

      • _5moufl
        oranged
      • 2012-01-21 02114, 2012

      • _5moufl
        yellow
      • 2012-01-21 02118, 2012

      • _5moufl
        you know
      • 2012-01-21 02156, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The recording edits are open
      • 2012-01-21 02147, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Once you're done, let me know and I'll approve them too
      • 2012-01-21 02154, 2012

      • reosarevok
        They won't affect the work-linking
      • 2012-01-21 02116, 2012

      • _5moufl
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      • reosarevok
        Yep! :)
      • 2012-01-21 02110, 2012

      • _5moufl
        ok great
      • 2012-01-21 02120, 2012

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      • ocharles
        Anyone know a command line tool that can dump the musicbrainz MBIDs out of a flac/mp3?
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      • ocharles
        aha, mutagen-inspect to the rescue
      • 2012-01-21 02150, 2012

      • _5moufl
        that relationship shit is quite awesome
      • 2012-01-21 02150, 2012

      • SultS
        reosarevok, there are at least 2 versions of this “Apelsin” record. Cover I have seems to be the same as on discogs, but vinyl has sligtly differently styled catalog numbers and estonian titles
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      • reosarevok
        _5moufl, it is! :)
      • 2012-01-21 02156, 2012

      • reosarevok
        SultS, so we should remove the discogs relationship I guess? :/
      • 2012-01-21 02115, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and make it into your version, which we can verify too! :) )
      • 2012-01-21 02119, 2012

      • SultS
        If we leave it estonian, probably…
      • 2012-01-21 02142, 2012

      • SultS
        annotation could use vinyl catalog numbers then too
      • 2012-01-21 02155, 2012

      • SultS
        pretty much the long – is replaced with -
      • 2012-01-21 02125, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2012-01-21 02139, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess we could also make that into the Russian version, and add a new Estonian version reusing recordings
      • 2012-01-21 02150, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and leave recording titles in Estonian)
      • 2012-01-21 02130, 2012

      • SultS
        I think both ways of doing it require about the same amount of work
      • 2012-01-21 02101, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeag
      • 2012-01-21 02104, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • 2012-01-21 02109, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And one gives us two valid releases
      • 2012-01-21 02116, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So I guess b) is better
      • 2012-01-21 02126, 2012

      • SultS
        true
      • 2012-01-21 02139, 2012

      • SultS
        so you can change it russian then
      • 2012-01-21 02143, 2012

      • SultS
        I can reuse it
      • 2012-01-21 02149, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • 2012-01-21 02153, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Do you have the link at hand? :)
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      • SultS
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      • SultS
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        ehrgeiz: you have eggs :P
      • 2012-01-21 02157, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I meant into MB
      • 2012-01-21 02100, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But this works too :)
      • 2012-01-21 02104, 2012

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        hi
      • 2012-01-21 02105, 2012

      • SultS
        oh :P
      • 2012-01-21 02110, 2012

      • reosarevok was being lazy