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      • derwin
        yeah
      • 2012-01-23 02304, 2012

      • derwin
        axis 9
      • 2012-01-23 02309, 2012

      • derwin
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      • VxJasonxV
        oh hey, I've played with that think at best buy
      • 2012-01-23 02316, 2012

      • derwin
        I bought it because it does +/- 50%
      • 2012-01-23 02323, 2012

      • derwin
        it's a really pretty awesome cdj
      • 2012-01-23 02331, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        stop calling it a CDJ :<
      • 2012-01-23 02335, 2012

      • derwin
        I just could only really get into the cdj thing on a limited basis
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      • VxJasonxV
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      • derwin
        yeah yeah pioneer brand mark
      • 2012-01-23 02357, 2012

      • derwin
        meh
      • 2012-01-23 02300, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        ;)
      • 2012-01-23 02302, 2012

      • derwin
        xerox copies
      • 2012-01-23 02311, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        some buddies that play near me use a pair of CDJ-400's
      • 2012-01-23 02316, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        the display on them is sooooo bad :X
      • 2012-01-23 02329, 2012

      • derwin
        but yeah literally the thing is sitting upstairs in the studio
      • 2012-01-23 02331, 2012

      • derwin
        not being used
      • 2012-01-23 02336, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        but maybe I'm just spoiled because I've seen tons of videos of the current generation CDJs. 2000s, 1000s, and 900s.
      • 2012-01-23 02336, 2012

      • derwin
        for years
      • 2012-01-23 02341, 2012

      • derwin
        I should sell it on craigslist or whatever
      • 2012-01-23 02349, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        that sounds like a good plan.
      • 2012-01-23 02331, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, btw, in case this interests any of you people: http://kldr.bandcamp.com/album/keldrist-k-lab-bas… / http://kldr.bandcamp.com/album/keldrist-k-lab-tru… Estonian bass/dnb comps (can't say if they're OK yet)
      • 2012-01-23 02356, 2012

      • derwin
        neat
      • 2012-01-23 02322, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        looks like the Tylenol PM might be kicking in. Wheee
      • 2012-01-23 02335, 2012

      • derwin
        sleep ninjas
      • 2012-01-23 02345, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        kicking in not kicking ass
      • 2012-01-23 02348, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        though what's the difference!
      • 2012-01-23 02333, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        yeah, totally time to sleep. yay for sleep at a reasonable hour!
      • 2012-01-23 02355, 2012

      • vinci
        nikki, YES I'm interesting in seeing the translations
      • 2012-01-23 02345, 2012

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      • derwin
        lol, I just saw the first time
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      • nikki
        vinci: see the conversation after I asked about it :) - http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2012/…
      • 2012-01-23 02350, 2012

      • derwin
        that a "musicbrainz" link showed up on a last.fm page because of data I entered :)
      • 2012-01-23 02300, 2012

      • derwin
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      • reosarevok
        Yay linked data!
      • 2012-01-23 02341, 2012

      • enjayhch
        What is the policy on adding last.fm links to MusicBrainz?
      • 2012-01-23 02317, 2012

      • enjayhch
        last.fm have/had a policy to use MusicBrainz as the official source of artist naming
      • 2012-01-23 02336, 2012

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      • reosarevok
        enjayhch: policy tends to be "don't, unless the artist specifically uses the page for social networking purposes"
      • 2012-01-23 02314, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (mostly for the annoying artist disambiguation issues)
      • 2012-01-23 02313, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If they make progress on that (which they claim they're currently working on) I guess it could change :)
      • 2012-01-23 02335, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I assume we'll hear about it in London
      • 2012-01-23 02355, 2012

      • enjayhch
        reosarevok: ok, thanks - just sent an email about it
      • 2012-01-23 02320, 2012

      • enjayhch
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      • enjayhch
        Do it is ok to add last.fm relationships, but they shiuld be to the artist name?
      • 2012-01-23 02336, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm, there was a discussion of this somewhere
      • 2012-01-23 02340, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Let me think
      • 2012-01-23 02340, 2012

      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        There was more, of course, but I think this was the most recent one
      • 2012-01-23 02335, 2012

      • enjayhch
        reosarevok: thanks
      • 2012-01-23 02351, 2012

      • enjayhch
        how do you know if it is the 'social networking' page for the artist? Do they have a way of stealing the scrobbles from other artists with the same name?
      • 2012-01-23 02352, 2012

      • enjayhch
        reosarevok: I spoke to last.fm about some of this in December and it does sound like the future is bright, thanks to ocharles :)
      • 2012-01-23 02335, 2012

      • reosarevok
        enjayhch: I don't really know myself
      • 2012-01-23 02339, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf said "Artists can request to manage a certain name on last.fm, in which case it is their page. I don't know how exactly this can be seen, but often this is indicated by the artist linking to last.fm from their official home page, or if they have free tracks on their page."
      • 2012-01-23 02301, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess you could write it as a question for http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Summit/20… ;)
      • 2012-01-23 02348, 2012

      • enjayhch
        reosarevok: will do :)
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      • jesus2099
        nikki: http://i18n.mbsandbox.org/artist/88d8f38f-adb4-48… c’est incroyable ! ;) great cool nice
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Do you know who I have to ping so this gets updated? :)
      • 2012-01-23 02323, 2012

      • jesus2099
        I guess there is a place to fix frenhc (went there long time ago) but can we discuss somewhere before fixing the strings ? Like maybe better to use verbs for action links like “edit” etc.
      • 2012-01-23 02334, 2012

      • enjayhch
        reosarevok: wow, didn't know that page existed
      • 2012-01-23 02327, 2012

      • reosarevok
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: héhé, handy page, thank you :)
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      • intgr
        "Error downloading http://api.acoustid.org/v2/submit - server replied: Bad Gateway" :/
      • 2012-01-23 02346, 2012

      • reosarevok
        luks ^
      • 2012-01-23 02344, 2012

      • luks
        intgr: hm, which application is that from?
      • 2012-01-23 02313, 2012

      • luks
        it looks like it's sending the fingerprint as unicode string with the BOM
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      • intgr
        luks: Acoustid Fingerprinter
      • 2012-01-23 02325, 2012

      • intgr
        luks: I tried again and now it says "Submitted 4310 fingerprint(s), thank you!"
      • 2012-01-23 02340, 2012

      • luks
        intgr: yes, I added a workaround there
      • 2012-01-23 02351, 2012

      • intgr
        Oh you fixed it already?
      • 2012-01-23 02357, 2012

      • ocharles
        enjayhch: :)
      • 2012-01-23 02358, 2012

      • luks
        I suspect there is one more Qt 4.8 incompatibility
      • 2012-01-23 02312, 2012

      • intgr
        Anyway I'm on Arch Linux, typically I have newer library versions than other distros and that causes problems.
      • 2012-01-23 02313, 2012

      • luks
        which is encoding UTF-8 strings differently
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      • intgr
        Yeah probably
      • 2012-01-23 02342, 2012

      • intgr
        I'm getting lots of ffmpeg "Truncating packet of size 1024 to 306" and "[mp3 @ 0x7fa7f815fd60] Header missing" errors, is that OK?
      • 2012-01-23 02312, 2012

      • intgr
        Out of 5599 tracks, it only submitted fingerprints for 4310 files?
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      • luks
        not sure if it's ok, but it's not unusual
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      • intgr
        I see
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      • reosarevok
        Argh
      • 2012-01-23 02344, 2012

      • reosarevok
        How can it be so hard to find a decent online list of Leopold Mozart's works? :(
      • 2012-01-23 02357, 2012

      • reosarevok is obviously not going to pay for the German catalog in book form
      • 2012-01-23 02330, 2012

      • nikki
        how big is it?
      • 2012-01-23 02300, 2012

      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Oooh
      • 2012-01-23 02324, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I can partly see it there!
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      • reosarevok
        Aww, not the parts I want
      • 2012-01-23 02321, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, whatever
      • 2012-01-23 02307, 2012

      • intgr
        luks: Oh, I deleted the cache file and now it says "Submitted 5560 fingerprints". Apparently it already recorded some fingerprints as sent, even though the submission failed.
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      • ehrgeiz
        reosarevok: already added the black mills tapes, 3 ^^
      • 2012-01-23 02353, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
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      • ehrgeiz
        reosarevok: i cross 3 main libraries everyday, if klassika.info doesn't have the info you need i could take a look into a printed k�chelverzeichnis.
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      • reosarevok
        ehrgeiz, klassika.info has almost nothing on him
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        But still, I guess it's not that simple
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, I'd need to *identify* the symphonies
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      • reosarevok
        so I guess they can stay unidentified for now until someone who knows more about L. Mozart appears
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      • ehrgeiz
        oh i misread, mozarts father..
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      • hrglgrmpf
        reosarevok,enjayhch: I have no idea if you can "manage" a page where there are two popular bands with the same name... but it is definitely possible if there is only one
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      • hrglgrmpf
        (last.fm)
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      • enjayhch
        hrglgrmpf: hm, ok
      • 2012-01-23 02325, 2012

      • enjayhch
        looking forward to asking them!
      • 2012-01-23 02347, 2012

      • enjayhch
        might have to update the BBC website to use last.fm from MusicBrainz if you can
      • 2012-01-23 02354, 2012

      • reosarevok would drop last.fm
      • 2012-01-23 02327, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (I mean, I found some artists already that assume that's their page (and the data is wrong) because last.fm shows them
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      • reosarevok
        )
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      • reosarevok
        But dunno
      • 2012-01-23 02303, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I wish they fixed their stuff already :(
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      • hrglgrmpf
        enjayhch: I registered an artist name on last.fm once for a friend (hobby band)
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      • hrglgrmpf
        that's why I know... via the management panel it is then possible to upload album information or free tracks
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      • hrglgrmpf
        I have no idea what happens if there are two active artists who want to manage their last.fm page... maybe a shared account ;-)?
      • 2012-01-23 02335, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        (two artists with the same name that is)
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      • hrglgrmpf
        I would include automatic searches to last.fm, either through name or through MBID, and display it if there is no last.fm link present for the artist
      • 2012-01-23 02310, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        it should be named "Search on Last.fm" (like SoundUnwound)
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      • reosarevok
        I wouldn't mind it as long as it clearly doesn't claim the page is there and is correct
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      • hrglgrmpf
        (at least for me)
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with them as long as it's clearly marked
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      • hrglgrmpf
        Last.fm is a very good place to get information about active artists (most popular songs, trivia and touring dates)
      • 2012-01-23 02315, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I wonder how last.fm assigns MBIDs
      • 2012-01-23 02333, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        yes... I think they get it from scrobbles
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      • hrglgrmpf
        at least I always submit recording MBIDs for the songs I scrobble :-)
      • 2012-01-23 02301, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Not by comparing names and titles?
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      • reosarevok
        (or just names)
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      • hrglgrmpf
        I don't think so... but I'm not sure
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      • reosarevok adds the question to the summit list
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      • Mineo
        the last.fm people have their on mb database, don't they?
      • 2012-01-23 02348, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        what I wonder is why they have MBID for many artists now and even albums, but not for most of the tracks (the only thing they get first-hand)
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      • reosarevok
        Replicated servers? AFAIK yes