or a playback of the box wound to a certain torque spec?
2012-01-18 01841, 2012
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2012-01-18 01850, 2012
ianmcorvidae
hawke_: ask mb-style ;)
2012-01-18 01811, 2012
hawke_
“alright everyone, get out your torque wrenches…”
2012-01-18 01817, 2012
ianmcorvidae
:P
2012-01-18 01842, 2012
ianmcorvidae
really, though, I think the switch to manifestation vs. recording is a basic first step; some attributes like duration don't make sense with other types but that's no reason not to make progress :)
2012-01-18 01854, 2012
hawke_
ianmcorvidae: Like what?
2012-01-18 01807, 2012
ianmcorvidae
change recording to manifestation, type recording
2012-01-18 01810, 2012
hawke_
I can’t think of any offhand that don’t have a duration
2012-01-18 01810, 2012
ianmcorvidae
add type 'sheet music'
2012-01-18 01812, 2012
ianmcorvidae
type 'midi'
2012-01-18 01820, 2012
ianmcorvidae
music box
2012-01-18 01823, 2012
ianmcorvidae
you just GAVE that example
2012-01-18 01833, 2012
ianmcorvidae
sheet music doesn't have a duration either
2012-01-18 01844, 2012
hawke_
It has a duration…we just don’t have a consensus on how to measure it
2012-01-18 01854, 2012
hawke_
the one I’ve entered I put a single rotation of the drum
2012-01-18 01854, 2012
derwin
it has "a" duration ?
2012-01-18 01800, 2012
hawke_
(which was 10 seconds)
2012-01-18 01802, 2012
derwin
I think it has "durations"
2012-01-18 01811, 2012
derwin
also, locked grooves on vinyl
2012-01-18 01817, 2012
derwin
have no "duration" in the same way
2012-01-18 01820, 2012
ianmcorvidae
it has some sort of a size/length metric, but not really a 'duration' in a conventional sence
2012-01-18 01823, 2012
ianmcorvidae
sense*
2012-01-18 01836, 2012
derwin
in the case of the locked groove, I guess you could say one rotation
2012-01-18 01859, 2012
kovacsur
or mods with infinite loops (I assume it applies to a lot of game music)
2012-01-18 01809, 2012
derwin
yeah.
2012-01-18 01821, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah; even so, a better way of representing conceptual size would be better than style rules for shoving that information into 'duration'
2012-01-18 01842, 2012
ianmcorvidae
nonetheless, shoehorning into duration would be a good first step if we want to have reasonable data for these things
2012-01-18 01821, 2012
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hawke_
ianmcorvidae: I can’t think of how to represent the conceptual size of sheet music
2012-01-18 01848, 2012
ianmcorvidae
pages? bars?
2012-01-18 01808, 2012
hawke_
pages: varies depending on how it’s printed. Bars: might work.
2012-01-18 01815, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2012-01-18 01830, 2012
ianmcorvidae
however, perhaps different printings are different manifestations so the pages problem isn't an issue :)
2012-01-18 01839, 2012
ianmcorvidae
it would need exploration
2012-01-18 01813, 2012
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2012-01-18 01848, 2012
hawke_
Screw you, “symphonic poem”, “zarzuela” and “Étude”! Now I can’t just hit 'end' on the work type. :-(
2012-01-18 01833, 2012
hawke_
Anyone know of any plans for representing a non-work?
2012-01-18 01848, 2012
reosarevok
You could make a huge [no work] work?
2012-01-18 01849, 2012
hawke_
vs. something that has a work but it’s just not linked yet?
2012-01-18 01853, 2012
hawke_
lol
2012-01-18 01855, 2012
reosarevok
We have a [no label] label, after all :p
2012-01-18 01800, 2012
reosarevok
And a [no artist] artist
2012-01-18 01806, 2012
hawke_
heh
2012-01-18 01812, 2012
hawke_
some people don’t like those already
2012-01-18 01823, 2012
hawke_
since it’s not the *same* “no artist”
2012-01-18 01849, 2012
rochusw
hmm, "mother nature" ? ;)
2012-01-18 01815, 2012
hawke_
“the atlantic ocean”
2012-01-18 01825, 2012
navap
hmm, I just noticed we 'create' artists/labels/releasegroups/recordings/works, but we 'add' releases. Interesting
2012-01-18 01826, 2012
reosarevok is not sure
2012-01-18 01842, 2012
hawke_
“meadowlark found at +45° -90° on [date]”
2012-01-18 01848, 2012
ianmcorvidae
heh
2012-01-18 01858, 2012
ianmcorvidae
hawke_: that sounds like the artist, not the work ;)
2012-01-18 01859, 2012
reosarevok
navap:
2012-01-18 01800, 2012
reosarevok
Add work
2012-01-18 01811, 2012
navap
reosarevok: Check out the urls
2012-01-18 01812, 2012
hawke_
ianmcorvidae: Yes, we were talking about “mother nature” as no artist though
2012-01-18 01817, 2012
ianmcorvidae
oh, okay
2012-01-18 01823, 2012
reosarevok
navap, sure
2012-01-18 01836, 2012
reosarevok
Just saying it's more schizophrenic than that still :p
2012-01-18 01855, 2012
reosarevok goes back to play UKG while editing 19th century violinists
2012-01-18 01834, 2012
reosarevok mehs at Naxos' back cover pdfs randomly allowing or blocking copying text
2012-01-18 01822, 2012
kepstin-laptop uses a pdf reader that doesn't implement blocking copying text
2012-01-18 01848, 2012
kepstin-laptop
open-source software tends to not implement antifeatures :)
2012-01-18 01833, 2012
rochusw
there are also pdfs, which use images instead of text
2012-01-18 01857, 2012
derwin
yeah.
2012-01-18 01846, 2012
reosarevok is just using the in-browser plugin to avoid having to download the files somewhere
2012-01-18 01852, 2012
reosarevok
(as in, this will temporarily download them but at least I don't need to remove them later)
Seems strange to me to change the title from what’s on the c…wait, there’s no cover here it’s only digital media. But you know what I mean, the “official tracklist”
2012-01-18 01857, 2012
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reosarevok
"@MusicBrainz Your software totally messed up my music collection, shame on you guys for building inaccurate software algorithms."
2012-01-18 01813, 2012
reosarevok
"@MusicBrainz Also it removed all my CD covers and renamed songs totally wrong. Will not use it again EVER going back to mp3tag on PC."
2012-01-18 01818, 2012
hawke_
lol
2012-01-18 01819, 2012
reosarevok
Seems someone got pissed off
2012-01-18 01821, 2012
hawke_
“derp”?
2012-01-18 01832, 2012
hawke_
“inaccurate software algorithms”
2012-01-18 01850, 2012
navap
reosarevok: heh, one day I'll learn how to spell separate
2012-01-18 01804, 2012
reosarevok would say "shame on you for pressing save without checking anything" but that's probably not the right thing to tweet back
2012-01-18 01807, 2012
nikki
shame on them for blindly saving without checking whether it looked ok?
2012-01-18 01808, 2012
nikki
hah
2012-01-18 01812, 2012
hawke_
I kinda agree though, Picard should be better at identifying which release
2012-01-18 01827, 2012
hawke_
It does pretty well with the recordings
2012-01-18 01830, 2012
derwin
reosarevok: lol. "test it on a spot that doesn't show"
2012-01-18 01848, 2012
derwin
I mean, what applies to hair dye
2012-01-18 01853, 2012
derwin
probably applies to destructive file operations
2012-01-18 01816, 2012
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CatCat
derwin: i'm savign that in my "irc" folder for imaginative and funny sayingsfrom #musicbrainz
2012-01-18 01841, 2012
CatCat
hilarious
2012-01-18 01843, 2012
CatCat
<3
2012-01-18 01841, 2012
derwin
hth :)
2012-01-18 01807, 2012
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navap
Does anyone use rhythmbox or sound juicer? Have they been updated to work with NGS?
2012-01-18 01842, 2012
kepstin-laptop
I use rhythmbox, it hasn't
2012-01-18 01853, 2012
kepstin-laptop
there's work in progress patches for both to port them to libmusicbrainz4
Looking at the wiki history, it looks like they were trying to be a part of our tagger affiliate program but it didn't work out
2012-01-18 01807, 2012
navap
The website looks quite iffy, and no development history or dates anywhere
2012-01-18 01854, 2012
SultS
I think I was intersted of it, right until I found out it wasn’t free
2012-01-18 01814, 2012
kepstin-laptop notes that rhythmbox/sound juicer use libmusicbrainz3 right now (except on older ubuntu releases...), and thus still work fine for single-disk releases
